Re: Re: Need a buildd build after trip through NEW -- best practice?

2022-09-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 08:45 -0500, Steven Robbins wrote:

> OK, so let's call it "bin nmu", then.  And add the "+bN" version
> suffix.

As others said, binNMUs exist, but not for arch:all packages. Debian
doesn't yet have sourceful no-change rebuilds, so you have to manually
do a sourceful no-change upload (or a regular upload). Ubuntu does tho.

dch supports the --rebuild option for this, but only on Ubuntu systems.

> This would clearly be optimal.  I'm just asking about an additional /
> alternative mechanism.

Yeah, we need sourceful no-change rebuilds in addition to NEW
discarding. The first step would be updating dch to support this,
after that the infrastructure can be updated, although I guess the
infra could reimplement what `dch --rebuild` does instead. This still
needs a volunteer to implement it, so far we have none to do that.

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Re: Re: Need a buildd build after trip through NEW -- best practice?

2022-09-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 08:45:06AM -0500, Steven Robbins wrote:
> > > Specficially: in the case of a NEW binary upload, could a manual request
> > > be
> > > implemented (pick a different name if "give back" is not suitable) such
> > > that it is thrown away and replaced by a buildd build?
> > 
> > If you are suggesting the ability for dak to replace binaries already
> > in the archive with different content without a new source version,
> > then I don't think that should be implemented for Debian at least,
> > since our archive is meant to only contain immutable package files.
> 
> OK, so let's call it "bin nmu", then.  And add the "+bN" version suffix.
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Re: Re: Need a buildd build after trip through NEW -- best practice?

2022-09-01 Thread Steven Robbins
Paul Said:
> On Sun, 2022-08-28 at 17:54 -0500, Steven Robbins wrote:
> > Specficially: in the case of a NEW binary upload, could a manual request
> > be
> > implemented (pick a different name if "give back" is not suitable) such
> > that it is thrown away and replaced by a buildd build?
> 
> If you are suggesting the ability for dak to replace binaries already
> in the archive with different content without a new source version,
> then I don't think that should be implemented for Debian at least,
> since our archive is meant to only contain immutable package files.

OK, so let's call it "bin nmu", then.  And add the "+bN" version suffix.

> The dak software already has an option to enable throwing away all the
> binary packages from NEW before they reach the archive, but this option
> is not yet enabled on the Debian ftp-master server unfortunately.

This would clearly be optimal.  I'm just asking about an additional / 
alternative mechanism.

-Steve

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