Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
* Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-16 18:18]: There are currently over 200 orphaned packages, many of which have been on WNPP for quite a long time and some with RC bugs. I intend to request the removal of a number of packages in three weeks unless a package has been adopted by someone by then. ... (if you need a sponsor) or debian-qa (for other reasons). However, unless there is a good reason, an upload should happen within the next 3 weeks. I've requested the removal of 72 packages now; the following packages have been adopted and will be kept for now (most of them haven't actually be uploaded yet): findimagedupes (#218699) gfpoken (#219061) gkdial (#287992) iceme (#227054) icepref (#227077) libffm (#235632) xasteroids (#227783) xsok (#242100) -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Andreas Tille wrote: README.Debian for the C++ version. If there is nobody hwo would be really keen on taking this over himself, I'll go for an upload in the next couple of days. I prepared a new upload but browsing through the list of bugs I found out that we might be able a new upstream maintainer (#87017). I wrote Jonathan an e-mail and would like to wait for a response for some days. I tagged the wnpp bug report ITA. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Will Newton wrote: Thanks for investigating this. It would be great if somebody could fix this issue which is probably not much effort for a C++ programmer. If it would compile nicely I would take the package (or would leave it for somebody who cares for it inside Debian). I haven't tested this change but it does compile. The diff leads to smooth compilation of the C++ code but I have to admit that I have no idea what this code really does. On the other hand the perl code was acceptable fast for the job I was doing with it and it did it to my complete satisfaction. So perhaps I go for an upload of the original program and add a hint to the README.Debian for the C++ version. If there is nobody hwo would be really keen on taking this over himself, I'll go for an upload in the next couple of days. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:18:06PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: iceme -- A graphical menu editor for IceWM [#227054] * Orphaned 520 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. icepref -- Yet another configuration tool for IceWM [#227077] * Orphaned 520 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. I use both of these and would like to adopt them. I will upload next week (via Anibal). -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpNfAq6XxJaG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Friday 17 June 2005 07:04, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:18:06PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: iceme -- A graphical menu editor for IceWM [#227054] * Orphaned 520 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. icepref -- Yet another configuration tool for IceWM [#227077] * Orphaned 520 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. I use both of these and would like to adopt them. I will upload next week (via Anibal). These two also use pygtk 1.2 which is rather outdated. There seems to be a new upstream version that uses pygtk 2.0, but I'm not sure if it is functionally equivalent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Sven Mueller wrote: [2001/03/03 10:05] Markus Schoder has contributed finddupes.cpp, GPL'ed source code for a C++ based version ... It's only compilable in its current state with g++-2.95 (regarding compilers in Debian stable). There is a single error when compiling with g++-3.4 which I am unable to fix (as I don't know the STL at all). Thanks for investigating this. It would be great if somebody could fix this issue which is probably not much effort for a C++ programmer. If it would compile nicely I would take the package (or would leave it for somebody who cares for it inside Debian). Apart from that, it works quite fine. Good news. Thanks, the time is on your side as I also would like to have a command line based tool. Yes, plaaasse. So if we have so many people who want it, we will find a maintainer for the package. If it is necessary to keep it inside Debian I would just volunteer to take it over like it is - but the final goal would be to replace the perl script with the C++ version. Any clue? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Friday 17 June 2005 13:40, Andreas Tille wrote:
It's only compilable in its current state with g++-2.95 (regarding
compilers in Debian stable). There is a single error when compiling with
g++-3.4 which I am unable to fix (as I don't know the STL at all).
Thanks for investigating this. It would be great if somebody could fix
this issue which is probably not much effort for a C++ programmer. If
it would compile nicely I would take the package (or would leave it for
somebody who cares for it inside Debian).
I haven't tested this change but it does compile.
--- finddupes.cpp.orig 2005-06-17 13:57:57.0 +0100
+++ finddupes.cpp 2005-06-17 13:57:36.0 +0100
@@ -96,12 +96,13 @@
vectorFingerprint a;
while(cin.getline(buf, buf_size))
{
+Fingerprint fp;
char *p = strchr(buf, ':');
if(!p)
continue;
-a.push_back();
-a.back().name = string(buf, p - buf);
-hex_convert8(a.back().u, p + 1);
+fp.name = string(buf, p - buf);
+hex_convert8(fp.u, p + 1);
+a.push_back(fp);
}
size_t n = a.size();
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:18:06PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: There are currently over 200 orphaned packages, many of which have been on WNPP for quite a long time and some with RC bugs. I intend to request the removal of a number of packages in three weeks unless a package has been adopted by someone by then. some of these packages are useful and interesting, and I feel they should not be removed from unstable at least. perhaps they could be moved to a different section which is not necessarily stabilized for release. I used rtf2latex myself only 5 minutes ago before reading this message in which you propose to remove it! and I think boust is cool. peace, Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrisse: Martin Michlmayr wrote: gkdial -- PPP dial-up configuration and dialing tool [#287992] * Orphaned 164 days ago * 1 RC bugs. Does any graphical ppp frontend exist that can be used instead of this? Under gnome you can find gpppkill and gpppon, but they can't manage provider setting. However you can find the modem-light applet for the gnome panel. Gkdial is a great tool, but ATM is really buggy :( Ciao, Luca -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Luca Bruno : :' : The Universal O.S.| luca.br(AT)uno.it `. `'` | GPG Key ID: 0x3BFB9FB3 `- http://www.debian.org | Proud Debian GNU/Linux User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Friday 17 June 2005 12:10, Sam Watkins wrote: some of these packages are useful and interesting, and I feel they should not be removed from unstable at least. perhaps they could be moved to a different section which is not necessarily stabilized for release. http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ I used rtf2latex myself only 5 minutes ago before reading this message in which you propose to remove it! and I think boust is cool. Would you consider maintaining them? Or persuading someone you know to maintain them? Without a maintainer they may become unbuildable, contain security flaws or break installation of other unrelated software. Someone has to fix these issues and if the QA team are the only ones caring for the package they have the right to ask for the packages removal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
I use both of these and would like to adopt them. I will upload next week (via Anibal). I think they are no longer maintained upstream. Take a look at http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-11.html#tools4icewm for more modern and supported alternatives. Greetings Ben -- Please do not sent any email to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] - all email not originating from the mailing list will be deleted automatically. Use the reply to address instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Luca writes: Under gnome you can find gpppkill and gpppon, but they can't manage provider setting. Gpppon doesn't need to manage settings. It uses the same settings as pon/poff, which can be managed with pppconfig. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Rich Walker wrote on 16/06/2005 23:23: Sven Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Michlmayr wrote on 16/06/2005 19:18: findimagedupes -- Finds visually similar or duplicate images [#218699] * Orphaned 590 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a pity to loose this since there is no comparable commandline tool fdupes? Doesn't do partial matching, but is otherwise excellent. That's (almost?) the point: findimagedupes (or the c++-implementation finddupes.cpp) is intended for the location of duplicate images, with a given fuzziness (not too far apart in size, very similar content). There are a lot of tools which find exact duplicates of files, but those matching images are really rare. cu, sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 12:57:13PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: On Friday 17 June 2005 07:04, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:18:06PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: iceme -- A graphical menu editor for IceWM [#227054] * Orphaned 520 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. icepref -- Yet another configuration tool for IceWM [#227077] * Orphaned 520 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. I use both of these and would like to adopt them. I will upload next week (via Anibal). These two also use pygtk 1.2 which is rather outdated. There seems to be a new upstream version that uses pygtk 2.0, but I'm not sure if it is functionally equivalent. OK. I will look into it. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpYQntRJ8KO8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
* Sven Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-16 20:53]: findimagedupes -- Finds visually similar or duplicate images [#218699] Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a pity to loose this since there is no comparable commandline tool available and it works quite well. If all else fails, I might re-think adopting it. Andreas Tille expressed interest in this package and I find the description quite interesting too. Does anyone know if there's a suitable replacement which is still maintained? -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 20:00 +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Sven Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-16 20:53]: Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a pity to loose this since there is no comparable commandline tool available and it works quite well. If all else fails, I might re-think adopting it. Andreas Tille expressed interest in this package and I find the description quite interesting too. Does anyone know if there's a suitable replacement which is still maintained? Quoting[1]: [2002/02/06 23:55] PixiePlus[2] now supports similar image finding using an algorithm based on mine, and for those unable to run a current version of KDE, gqview[3] will also find your similar images, albeit using a different algorithm whose results I haven't compared with my own. Both are FAR faster than findimagedupes and, I would say, both make it obsolete. If someone else would like to continue its development for web or other non-GUI purposes (this means you, Debian maintainers ;) ), by all means feel free, but consider my itch scratched. Thus I may think it is enough (no more upstream activity, abadonned more than three years ago, has other and problably better alternatives) to remove this package, but let others do the choice. Regards, Laszlo/GCS [1] http://www.kudla.org/raindog/perl/ [2] http://www.mosfet.org/pixie/ [3] http://gqview.sourceforge.net/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: [2002/02/06 23:55] PixiePlus[2] now supports similar image finding using an algorithm based on mine, and for those unable to run a current version of KDE, gqview[3] will also find your similar images, albeit using a different algorithm whose results I haven't compared with my own. Both are FAR faster than findimagedupes Perhaps this might be true for the initial Perl implementation, but: [2001/03/03 10:05] Markus Schoder has contributed finddupes.cpp, GPL'ed source code for a C++ based version of my horribly slow compare routine. In his testing on a directory of 35,000 images, it was about 300 times faster than findimagedupes' perl implementation. and, I would say, both make it obsolete. If both would have a command line interface. I do not know both but the page you quoted mentioned that findimagedupes is the only command line tool. If someone else would like to continue its development for web or other non-GUI purposes (this means you, Debian maintainers ;) ), by all means feel free, but consider my itch scratched. Thus I may think it is enough (no more upstream activity, abadonned more than three years ago, has other and problably better alternatives) to remove this package, but let others do the choice. I would really love a command line alternative. If you tell me any I will be quiet immediately. But I would love to have a test first. Please give me two weeks. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Martin Michlmayr wrote on 16/06/2005 19:18: findimagedupes -- Finds visually similar or duplicate images [#218699] * Orphaned 590 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a pity to loose this since there is no comparable commandline tool available and it works quite well. If all else fails, I might re-think adopting it. rio500 -- command-line utilities for the Diamond Rio500 digital audio player [#225259] * Orphaned 534 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. don't know anything about the state of this package, but I know that the rio500 is still used by a lot of people. cu, sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
* Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-16 22:53]: if-transition -- A Change in the Weather, an interactive short story [#260720] * Orphaned 327 days ago I cannot find this one on powerpc. It's in non-free. moria -- A roguelike game with an infinite dungeon [#274472] * Orphaned 255 days ago I think that would be a shame. As I don't play it myself, I might not be the best choice for a maintainer, but I'd offer sponsoring. :-) It's non-free. There were discussions about moving to GPL but this hasn't happened yet. It can always be re-uploaded once it's GPL. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 22:13 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Perhaps this might be true for the initial Perl implementation, but: [2001/03/03 10:05] Markus Schoder has contributed finddupes.cpp, GPL'ed source code for a C++ based version of my horribly slow compare routine. In his testing on a directory of 35,000 images, it was about 300 times faster than findimagedupes' perl implementation. Yup, but that's even more old, more than four years old. Will download it and check if its still compilable even. and, I would say, both make it obsolete. If both would have a command line interface. I do not think they have. I do not know both but the page you quoted mentioned that findimagedupes is the only command line tool. Yes, and this is sad. What I need is a command line tool as well. I can not have any GUI where I would like to use it. I would really love a command line alternative. If you tell me any I will be quiet immediately. I do not know any. But if any of you find an alternative, then please tell me as well. But I would love to have a test first. Please give me two weeks. Thanks, the time is on your side as I also would like to have a command line based tool. Regards, Laszlo/GCS -- BorsodChem Joint-Stock Company www.debian.org Linux Support Center Software engineerDebian Developer Developer +36-48-511211/25-90 +36-20-4441745 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Martin Michlmayr wrote: ... trustees -- Advanced permission management system for Linux [#251189] orphaned 379 days ago, according to maintainer upstream dead, removal already suggested one year ago, very small install base One more issue in favour of this is that Novell have released the NSS filesystem for Linux with SLES9, so an alternative inspired by NSS isn't really necessary now... -- Paul http://paulgear.webhop.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Sven Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Michlmayr wrote on 16/06/2005 19:18: findimagedupes -- Finds visually similar or duplicate images [#218699] * Orphaned 590 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. Though I probably can't adopt it (due to lack of time), it would be a pity to loose this since there is no comparable commandline tool fdupes? Doesn't do partial matching, but is otherwise excellent. cheers, Rich. -- rich walker | Shadow Robot Company | [EMAIL PROTECTED] technical director 251 Liverpool Road | need a Hand? London N1 1LX | +UK 20 7700 2487 www.shadow.org.uk/products/newhand.shtml -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-16 22:53]: if-transition -- A Change in the Weather, an interactive short story [#260720] * Orphaned 327 days ago I cannot find this one on powerpc. It's in non-free. moria -- A roguelike game with an infinite dungeon [#274472] * Orphaned 255 days ago I think that would be a shame. As I don't play it myself, I might not be the best choice for a maintainer, but I'd offer sponsoring. :-) It's non-free. There were discussions about moving to GPL but this hasn't happened yet. It can always be re-uploaded once it's GPL. Perhaps you haven't seen: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.angband/browse_thread/thread/d667a1ca262882f7/a198687e1e992879?q=moria+debian+authorrnum=1#a198687e1e992879 Most of the creditted authors have stated that they are happy for it to be converted to GPL. And moria hasn't had a bug in a long time. cheers, Rich. -- rich walker | Shadow Robot Company | [EMAIL PROTECTED] technical director 251 Liverpool Road | need a Hand? London N1 1LX | +UK 20 7700 2487 www.shadow.org.uk/products/newhand.shtml -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:39:39PM +0100, Rich Walker wrote: And moria hasn't had a bug in a long time. While many bugs are a reason to remove a package quickly, no bugs aren't a reason to keep it forever. The Debian QA group maintains packages that are orphaned to give other maintainers the chance to adopt it without too much hassle, and as a service to those that use them. But this has to be only a temporary solution. Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.djpig.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Hi, Martin Michlmayr schrieb: race -- 3D arcade overhead car game [#251706] orphaned 376 days ago, about 3 years old, new upstream releases not uploaded, medium install base, only a game race eats up 640MB of memory, then dies on my system (ppc). arpd -- User-space ARP daemon [#191870] * Orphaned 771 days ago * Package orphaned 360 days ago. This matches a kernel option that is still present in current 2.6 but has a description that says it's obsolete. if-transition -- A Change in the Weather, an interactive short story [#260720] * Orphaned 327 days ago I cannot find this one on powerpc. moria -- A roguelike game with an infinite dungeon [#274472] * Orphaned 255 days ago I think that would be a shame. As I don't play it myself, I might not be the best choice for a maintainer, but I'd offer sponsoring. :-) Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most of the creditted authors have stated that they are happy for it to be converted to GPL. Most isn't enough; someone needs to decide that all of the code has now been covered or replace the code that hasn't been covered. And moria hasn't had a bug in a long time. Someone really needs to step up to the place and adopt it if we're going to keep it. I'm tempted personally too, but I'm not willing to adopt a non-free package, and I think it probably really is still non-free (being familiar with the similar issue with Angband). -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote on 16/06/2005 23:13: On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 22:13 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Perhaps this might be true for the initial Perl implementation, but: [2001/03/03 10:05] Markus Schoder has contributed finddupes.cpp, GPL'ed source code for a C++ based version of my horribly slow compare routine. In his testing on a directory of 35,000 images, it was about 300 times faster than findimagedupes' perl implementation. Yup, but that's even more old, more than four years old. Will download it and check if its still compilable even. It's only compilable in its current state with g++-2.95 (regarding compilers in Debian stable). There is a single error when compiling with g++-3.4 which I am unable to fix (as I don't know the STL at all). Apart from that, it works quite fine. and, I would say, both make it obsolete. If both would have a command line interface. I do not think they have. Exactly. I do not know both but the page you quoted mentioned that findimagedupes is the only command line tool. Yes, and this is sad. What I need is a command line tool as well. I can not have any GUI where I would like to use it. Same for me. I would really love a command line alternative. If you tell me any I will be quiet immediately. I do not know any. But if any of you find an alternative, then please tell me as well. /aol But I would love to have a test first. Please give me two weeks. Thanks, the time is on your side as I also would like to have a command line based tool. Yes, plaaasse. cu, sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On 6/16/05, Paul Gear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trustees -- Advanced permission management system for Linux [#251189] orphaned 379 days ago, according to maintainer upstream dead, removal already suggested one year ago, very small install base One more issue in favour of this is that Novell have released the NSS filesystem for Linux with SLES9, so an alternative inspired by NSS isn't really necessary now... Is this already packaged for Debian? -- Besos, Marga
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While many bugs are a reason to remove a package quickly, no bugs aren't a reason to keep it forever. The Debian QA group maintains packages that are orphaned to give other maintainers the chance to adopt it without too much hassle, and as a service to those that use them. But this has to be only a temporary solution. Point taken. cheers, Rich. -- rich walker | Shadow Robot Company | [EMAIL PROTECTED] technical director 251 Liverpool Road | need a Hand? London N1 1LX | +UK 20 7700 2487 www.shadow.org.uk/products/newhand.shtml -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Martin Michlmayr wrote: gkdial -- PPP dial-up configuration and dialing tool [#287992] * Orphaned 164 days ago * 1 RC bugs. Does any graphical ppp frontend exist that can be used instead of this? -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On 17/06/05, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Michlmayr wrote: gkdial -- PPP dial-up configuration and dialing tool [#287992] * Orphaned 164 days ago * 1 RC bugs. Does any graphical ppp frontend exist that can be used instead of this? there is kppp (?) for KDE, and i'm SURE i've seen a similar one with gnome... of course on the otherhand, i don't know of any others which would have similar bindings (i.e. if you are on a desktop that has low HD, you don't exactly want all the KDE/Gnome libs!) But in direct reply to the question: yes there is. -- see shy jo BodyID:33238079.2.n.logpart (stored separately) -- N Jones Blogging @ http://nigelj.blogspot.com Proud Debian FOSS User Debian Maintainer of: html2ps ipkungfu
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Andreas Tille wrote: mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957] * Orphaned 755 days ago It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to PostgreSQL are quite rare. It's non-free. However, Erik Tews fixed the package so it has proper build dependencies and after a rebuild the package installs again. I've just uploaded the package. Is there no GTK based SQL monitor for PostgreSQL? I can't believe that the non-free mpsql is the only graphical one. Regards, Joey -- Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. -- Bruce Schneier Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Martin Schulze wrote: Andreas Tille wrote: mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957] * Orphaned 755 days ago It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to PostgreSQL are quite rare. It's non-free. However, Erik Tews fixed the package so it has proper build dependencies and after a rebuild the package installs again. I've just uploaded the package. Is there no GTK based SQL monitor for PostgreSQL? I can't believe that the non-free mpsql is the only graphical one. I can't believe to, but it seems to be so. There wwas some rumor that the nice VB-tool would be ported to Linux ... Kind regards Andreas. -- Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. John F. Kennedy
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Martin Schulze wrote: Andreas Tille wrote: mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957] * Orphaned 755 days ago It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to PostgreSQL are quite rare. It's non-free. However, Erik Tews fixed the package so it has proper build dependencies and after a rebuild the package installs again. I've just uploaded the package. Is there no GTK based SQL monitor for PostgreSQL? I can't believe that the non-free mpsql is the only graphical one. I can't believe to, but it seems to be so. There wwas some rumor that the nice VB-tool would be ported to Linux ... What about Tora? -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org
Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages
There is a nice graphical front-end to Postgresql, in the non-US section : gk:~$ apt-cache show pgaccess| grep -A 100 Description Description: Tk/Tcl interface to PostgreSQL A Tk/Tcl program for X that provides a front-end to PostgreSQL. It can be used to generate and store queries, views, reports and forms. . The PostgreSQL database may be local or on a remote machine. Task: database-server Package: pgaccess Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: non-US Installed-Size: 1524 Maintainer: Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: postgresql Version: 7.2.1-2woody2 Depends: libpgtcl (= 7.1) Description: Tk/Tcl front-end for PostgreSQL database A Tk/Tcl program for X that provides a front-end to PostgreSQL. It can be used to generate and store queries, views and new forms. Andreas Tille a écrit : On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Martin Schulze wrote: Andreas Tille wrote: mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957] * Orphaned 755 days ago It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to PostgreSQL are quite rare. It's non-free. However, Erik Tews fixed the package so it has proper build dependencies and after a rebuild the package installs again. I've just uploaded the package. Is there no GTK based SQL monitor for PostgreSQL? I can't believe that the non-free mpsql is the only graphical one. I can't believe to, but it seems to be so. There wwas some rumor that the nice VB-tool would be ported to Linux ...
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* Fumitoshi UKAI | At Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:52:12 -0400 (EDT), | Joe Nahmias wrote: | | Will these packages will still be available through archive.d.o or will | they be purged from there as well? | | These packages will be available through http://snapshot.debian.net/, | as much as I can afford to maintain. How does the disk space situation look? I think snapshot.d.n is a so useful service that Debian should consider using funds for paying for hard drives for it, assuming the growth isn't «too bad», for some value of that. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `-
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* Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030412 15:49]: I guess you thought about http://snapshot.debian.net/ instead of archive? s.d.n main page explicitely says that removed pkgs will be retained there. So there's no problem recovering the latest version from sid of a package. Well, they have to be stored on archive, too. Mainly for GPL licensing issues. Why that? I thought we use 3a and not 3b for distribution thus avoiding such problems? Hochachtungsvoll, Bernhard R. Link -- Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA.
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Martin Michlmayr wrote: # The rules: # * All packages orphaned less than 90 days ago will be kept! # * Ignore all bugs less than 30 days old. # otherwise: # * Packages with RC bugs will be removed. # * Packages orphaned 180 days ago and with NMUed RC bugs will be removed. # * Packages orphaned with a Standards-Version less than 3.0 (which # would be a RC bug anyway) will be removed. # * Packages orphaned more than 360 days ago will be removed in any case. These packages all look likely to be leaves, but have you checked for other packages depending on them just to be sure? -- see shy jo pgpyW8mmZxWX5.pgp Description: PGP signature
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* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-11 23:11]: These packages all look likely to be leaves, but have you checked for other packages depending on them just to be sure? Not yet, but I intend to do so before the removal. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:52:12 -0400 (EDT), Joe Nahmias wrote: Will these packages will still be available through archive.d.o or will they be purged from there as well? These packages will be available through http://snapshot.debian.net/, as much as I can afford to maintain. Regards, Fumitoshi UKAI
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On Friday 11 April 2003 19:52, Joe Nahmias wrote: Will these packages will still be available through archive.d.o or will they be purged from there as well? I guess you thought about http://snapshot.debian.net/ instead of archive? s.d.n main page explicitely says that removed pkgs will be retained there. So there's no problem recovering the latest version from sid of a package. cheers -- vbi -- Help! I'm trapped in a PDP 11/70! pgpEi9952IEnQ.pgp Description: signature
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: I guess you thought about http://snapshot.debian.net/ instead of archive? s.d.n main page explicitely says that removed pkgs will be retained there. So there's no problem recovering the latest version from sid of a package. Well, they have to be stored on archive, too. Mainly for GPL licensing issues. Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Martin Michlmayr wrote: biomode -- [Biology] An Emacs mode to edit genetic data [#100215] * Orphaned 671 days ago I hope that the bugs will be fixed soon - at least I have heard rumors that work is going on. bugsx -- evolve biomorphs using genetic algorithms [#86636] * Orphaned 780 days ago ... fastlink -- [Biology] A faster version of pedigree programs of Linkage [#100221] * Orphaned 671 days ago I see no reason to remove bug free packages. I just used to take over all orphaned packages which have bugs filed on it in the past. As long as theses packages are free of bugs I see no reason for an upload. In general I would offer to care for biology related packages if noone else would be able to do this instead of me. freetds-jdbc -- Pure Java JDBC driver for MS SQL and Sybase [#117543] * Orphaned 529 days ago ACK. I was the former maintainer and think if noone insists it can be removed. mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957] * Orphaned 755 days ago It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to PostgreSQL are quite rare. njplot -- [Biology] A tree drawing program [#100249] * Orphaned 671 days ago Same as for bugsx and fastlink. If you think the wishlist bug is a problem I would care for it soon. sabre -- Fighter plane simulator. [#175226] * Orphaned 97 days ago * 1 RC bugs. Hmm, would be a shame if noone would care for it. My son likes it and the bugs on it do not seem really hard, IMHO. Kind regards Andreas. PS: In general I like the idea to consolidate the archive ... -- Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. John F. Kennedy
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 05:39:14PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: mpsql -- A graphical frontend for PostgreSQL [#89957] * Orphaned 755 days ago It would be great if someone would step in here. Graphical frontends to PostgreSQL are quite rare. It's not installable (#175816) and upstream seams to be gone. -- Met vriendelijke groet / with kind regards, Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpMiOXW3cLse.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi, On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 05:39:14PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Martin Michlmayr wrote: sabre -- Fighter plane simulator. [#175226] * Orphaned 97 days ago * 1 RC bugs. Hmm, would be a shame if noone would care for it. My son likes it and the bugs on it do not seem really hard, IMHO. The Upstream site has disappeared. And a quick google doesn't show anything interesting about it or its upstream author. regards, guillem
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Will these packages will still be available through archive.d.o or will they be purged from there as well? Joe Nahmias, DD wannabe Martin Michlmayr wrote: There are currently about 200 orphaned packages, many of which have been on WNPP for quite a long time and some with RC bugs. I intend to request the removal of the following packages in two weeks unless a package has been adopted by someone until then. If you want to keep one of the following packages, please make sure to - change the title of the bug from O: to ITA: as described on http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp - make an upload to the archive, change the Maintainer: field to you, fix as many bugs as possible, also check for new upstream releases, etc. - Make sure to close the WNPP bug in your upload. If you cannot make an upload for some reason (e.g., you need a sponsor), then contact me privately. However, unless there is a good reason, an upload should happen within the next 2 weeks. snip # The rules: # * All packages orphaned less than 90 days ago will be kept! # * Ignore all bugs less than 30 days old. # otherwise: # * Packages with RC bugs will be removed. # * Packages orphaned 180 days ago and with NMUed RC bugs will be removed. # * Packages orphaned with a Standards-Version less than 3.0 (which # would be a RC bug anyway) will be removed. # * Packages orphaned more than 360 days ago will be removed in any case.
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:06:32AM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: If you want to keep one of the following packages, please make sure to - change the title of the bug from O: to ITA: as described on http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp - make an upload to the archive, change the Maintainer: field to you, fix as many bugs as possible, also check for new upstream releases, etc. - Make sure to close the WNPP bug in your upload. If you cannot make an upload for some reason (e.g., you need a sponsor), then contact me privately. However, unless there is a good reason, an upload should happen within the next 2 weeks. taper -- Full-screen system backup utility. [#115960] * Orphaned 541 days ago taper -- Full-screen system backup utility. [#115960] * Orphaned 541 days ago I use taper on a regular basis, but I wouldn't actually have time to maintain it. It does seem to work pretty well, the bugs filed against it are all pretty much easy to work with, and it would be a shame to lose it. So I offer, er, gratitude? to whoever keeps it alive... -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Joe Nahmias wrote: Will these packages will still be available through archive.d.o or will they be purged from there as well? archive.d.o stores stable distros, and is never purged of packages (although too old releases just might. Depends on the amount of space, I suppose). If the packages ever went in a Debian stable distro, that version won't be purged. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
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* Joe Nahmias [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-11 13:52]: Will these packages will still be available through archive.d.o or will they be purged from there as well? They won't be removed from already released versions of Debian. So if the packages were in potato or woody, they will be available through archive.d.o. (Otherwise, they will be kept in the morgue on auric for a whilw but that's only accessiable for developers.) -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
