Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:02:17AM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: (the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a new navigator binary before connecting to my bank's https site, then Exactly. Maybe the real solution is to replace Mozilla's PSM (POS) with a module that simply runs navigator 4.x whenever one visits a secure link. (I do hear that the PSM debacle will largely be fixed in the next major mozilla release.) Careful with your quoting. The above text under my name was Craig's, not mine. Thanks for pointing that out. Apologies to all concerned. T. -- Timothy H. Keitt Department of Ecology and Evolution State University of New York at Stony Brook Phone: 631-632-1101, FAX: 631-632-7626 http://life.bio.sunysb.edu/ee/keitt/
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:02:17AM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > > (the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a new > > navigator binary before connecting to my bank's https site, then > > > > Exactly. Maybe the real solution is to replace Mozilla's PSM (POS) with a > module that simply runs navigator 4.x whenever one visits a secure link. (I > do hear that the PSM debacle will largely be fixed in the next major mozilla > release.) Careful with your quoting. The above text under my name was Craig's, not mine. -- - mdz
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: (the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a new navigator binary before connecting to my bank's https site, then Exactly. Maybe the real solution is to replace Mozilla's PSM (POS) with a module that simply runs navigator 4.x whenever one visits a secure link. (I do hear that the PSM debacle will largely be fixed in the next major mozilla release.) T. -- Timothy H. Keitt Department of Ecology and Evolution State University of New York at Stony Brook Phone: 631-632-1101, FAX: 631-632-7626 http://life.bio.sunysb.edu/ee/keitt/
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Running the 'navigator' binary will communicate with a running version > of Navigator, if one exists. This feature has been in Navigator > years. yep, it's been there for years. it's mostly useful, but occasionally annoying when you really do want to run another instance of navigator. (the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a new navigator binary before connecting to my bank's https site, then kill it afterwards. now that i'm using Galeon as my regular browser, that's no problem - i just start up netscape whenever i need to visit an SSL site) i just learnt to work around it, because i'd be even more annoyed if it started up a new binary every time. craig -- craig sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG Key: 1024D/CD5626F0 Key fingerprint: 9674 7EE2 4AC6 F5EF 3C57 52C3 EC32 6810 CD56 26F0
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Previously Colin Watson wrote: >> Erm, I have a package of that lying around somewhere, although I haven't >> dared to upload it to Debian yet. :) > >http://vim.sourceforge.net/vimgor/ > >fear. Wouldn't that be less painful than the original nvi-based one? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 02:52:00PM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > Short answer: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/X11/navigator > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 27 Apr 12 19:54 > /usr/bin/X11/navigator -> /etc/alternatives/navigator > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/navigator > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 48 Apr 20 09:54 > /etc/alternatives/navigator -> > /usr/lib/netscape/477/navigator/navigator-smotif > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/netscape/477/navigator/navigator-smotif > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Apr 20 09:54 > /usr/lib/netscape/477/navigator/navigator-smotif -> ../../base-4/wrapper > > Long answer: > > Because some idiot thought the above was cool... > > Actually, the culprit here is the "wrapper" script, not the alternatives > directory or sym linking. I'm just trying to make a point that > complexity is not always a good thing. Openning a mozilla window > instead of running navigator only happens when mozilla is already > running. Somewhere down in "wrapper" is some sort of mozilla-remote > command. What's next? A talking paper-clip pops up when I type > "xterm"? :-) This _is_ cool. It makes it easy for programs to display a web page using navigator or mozilla without having to worry about whether it is already running or not. These programs are large, and running only one instance is a win for performance and memory consumption. As for navigator vs. mozilla, consider that they are merely two versions of the same program. Running the 'navigator' binary will communicate with a running version of Navigator, if one exists. This feature has been in Navigator years. If you don't like this feature, the script already includes some configuration settings near the top (including a use_ns_remote setting). Perhaps you should file a wishlist bug against netscape-base-4 asking that this portion of the script be moved to a conffile in /etc, or a per-user config file. Then, you could set use_ns_remote=no, and have the script start a new instance of navigator for every request. -- - mdz
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
Previously Colin Watson wrote: > Erm, I have a package of that lying around somewhere, although I haven't > dared to upload it to Debian yet. :) http://vim.sourceforge.net/vimgor/ fear. Wichert. -- / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D |
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
Alexander Hvostov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:52:00 -0400 >"Timothy H. Keitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What's next? A talking paper-clip pops up when I type "xterm"? :-) > >Remember `vigor'? Please, please, PLEASE don't give anyone any ideas... Erm, I have a package of that lying around somewhere, although I haven't dared to upload it to Debian yet. :) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:52:00 -0400 "Timothy H. Keitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's next? A talking paper-clip pops up when I type "xterm"? :-) Remember `vigor'? Please, please, PLEASE don't give anyone any ideas... ;) Regards, Alex.
