Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
Joachim Breitner wrote: I am wondering if anyone still uses the re-ordered ubuntu patches provided by the Utnubu team at I'm too unimportant to be of any weight here, but I use them and it would be sad if it is stopped. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
On Thursday 31 May 2007 00:01, Joachim Breitner wrote: I am wondering if anyone still uses the re-ordered ubuntu patches provided by the Utnubu team at This might be too obvious, but: did you check whether Ubuntu/Scott would be willing to provide a per-maintainer indexed version on their patches.ubuntu.com? Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: This might be too obvious, but: did you check whether Ubuntu/Scott would be willing to provide a per-maintainer indexed version on their patches.ubuntu.com? I asked him in February excately this. I don't think he mind that I paste it here: Unfortunately as you're probably aware, Debian insists that we don't attribute Ubuntu packages to the Debian maintainer anywhere. Under this agreement, we have to change the Maintainer field in our packages. One slight problem with this is that we don't have the Debian package information at the point we generate that page, it's generated from the Ubuntu package information (otherwise it would show packages that existed in Debian, but not Ubuntu). In order to find the Debian maintainer, we'd have to have an additional pass to extract that information -- which would actually be quite expensive (unpacking 16,000 source packages every hour!) Regards, Daniel -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:46:32PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: Unfortunately as you're probably aware, Debian insists that we don't attribute Ubuntu packages to the Debian maintainer anywhere. Under this agreement, we have to change the Maintainer field in our packages. Don't they still keep the Debian maintainer in a separate field? In any case, since the topic has arrived: http://ubuntu-patches.sesse.net/by-maintainer/ has RSS feeds per-maintainer. I don't think more than about ten people are using them, but they exist :-) /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:46:32PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: This might be too obvious, but: did you check whether Ubuntu/Scott would be willing to provide a per-maintainer indexed version on their patches.ubuntu.com? I asked him in February excately this. I don't think he mind that I paste it here: Unfortunately as you're probably aware, Debian insists that we don't attribute Ubuntu packages to the Debian maintainer anywhere. Under this agreement, we have to change the Maintainer field in our packages. One slight problem with this is that we don't have the Debian package information at the point we generate that page, it's generated from the Ubuntu package information (otherwise it would show packages that existed in Debian, but not Ubuntu). In order to find the Debian maintainer, we'd have to have an additional pass to extract that information -- which would actually be quite expensive (unpacking 16,000 source packages every hour!) Hum, don't they have the original debian/control when doing the diff ? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
On Thu, 31 May 2007, Daniel Baumann wrote: I asked him in February excately this. I don't think he mind that I paste it here: Unfortunately as you're probably aware, Debian insists that we don't attribute Ubuntu packages to the Debian maintainer anywhere. Under this agreement, we have to change the Maintainer field in our packages. One slight problem with this is that we don't have the Debian package information at the point we generate that page, it's generated from the Ubuntu package information (otherwise it would show packages that existed in Debian, but not Ubuntu). In order to find the Debian maintainer, we'd have to have an additional pass to extract that information -- which would actually be quite expensive (unpacking 16,000 source packages every hour!) This has probably changed since they keep the old maintainer field in a separate field. Furthermore they started storing/generating other (useful) patches in http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/ so they probably regularly process the Debian packages too. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
On Thursday 31 May 2007 14:46, Daniel Baumann wrote: Unfortunately as you're probably aware, Debian insists that we don't attribute Ubuntu packages to the Debian maintainer anywhere. Under this agreement, we have to change the Maintainer field in our packages. As far as I know no-one ever insisted that Ubuntu may not attribute packages to the Debian maintainer anywhere, that seems to be a bit of a hyperbole. The agreement referenced here boiled down to putting the Debian maintainer in some kind of Original-Maintainer-field. Any Ubuntu patch that changed the maintainer of my packages did that instead of removing it entirely. I see no problem with using that Original-Maintainer field, although I'm of course not aware of the inner workings of Scott's script. To me, Scott's assumption that the Debian maintainer is nowhere to be found in the Ubuntu package seems to be an error. Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:46:32PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: In order to find the Debian maintainer, we'd have to have an additional pass to extract that information -- which would actually be quite expensive (unpacking 16,000 source packages every hour!) That's bogus, the maintainer field is in the Packages file. You just have to parse it (not necessarily every hour) to extract that info and map Ubuntu packages to Debian maintainers. Actually, guess what, that's already done in Launchpad! Regards Javier signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?
On 5/30/07, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am wondering if anyone still uses the re-ordered ubuntu patches provided by the Utnubu team at http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ If nobody finds this useful, I'd probably do the alioth admins a favor if I stop the cronjob. Hi nomeata, I agree with the cronjob stop. Unfortunately, just a few from the swirl side of the fence are using patches.ubuntu.com also. Bart (bartm) did a great job in terms of reports[0] engine (I still believe that the UI needs tweak) and people can identify what needs to be done from there. [0] = http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu regards, -- stratus http://stratusandtheswirl.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
