Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On Wed, 21 May 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: '=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= wrote:' So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D No, PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' ! I guess this will become a flame war. So I'd prefer to leave prompt alone. Or maybe the boot disks can have a dialog script to help the user choose a prompt? Ok..! Let's use PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '... It's much better than ' \\$'... It would be nice to have some a `Configure prompt' option somewhere. We could have a list of prompts for the user to choose..! -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On Thu, 22 May 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: How about: PS1='\[\033[40;31m\]pwd: \[\033[40;33m\]\w \[\033[40;[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' I'll repeat my conclusion: leave it as PS1=\\$ That's your `conclusion'? After _what_ thinking? and provide a customization app for sysadmins to edit /etc/profile and another for users to edit ~/.bash_profile (and other dotfiles too, of course) and keep the installation's paws away from customizations that EVERYBODY has a different opinion about. That's a very weak argument. In building an operating system we should make some decisions. Your problem is that you think that we aren't capable to decide a prompt? I say: Let's use any simple/reasonable/useful prompt, I like mine, but I don't care... =) -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 26 May 1997, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: Ok..! Let's use PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '... It's much better than ' \\$'... Yes!, please!, let's use PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' ! Or even better: PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' for root and PS1='\h:\w\$ ' for normal users (/etc/profile). (After all, normal users do not change uid so often that they forgot the current one :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBM4s66yqK7IlOjMLFAQHCIgQAmtOLOEblGomrcP8WW704P1WbrMoCQiXT VZom4goa2SOrh5x0/bXrXWtGKy81djhaLmKIB7N+AN6M6bTdptCSKZjxcATOAwW8 lxre03Ps/JcJiAipP5TTPXzPiLr7URiBWieR7TmHzICKEN02d779aAR5iGUisZ63 VZaSzz4XX5U= =nt/G -END PGP SIGNATURE- Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
'Raul Miller wrote:' '=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= wrote:' So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D On May 21, Chris Fearnley wrote No, PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' ! I'd prefer PS1='\$ ' However, if you want all that fanciness, a compromise is: PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED] \W\$ ' How about: PS1='\[\033[40;31m\]pwd: \[\033[40;33m\]\w \[\033[40;[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' I'll repeat my conclusion: leave it as PS1=\\$ and provide a customization app for sysadmins to edit /etc/profile and another for users to edit ~/.bash_profile (and other dotfiles too, of course) and keep the installation's paws away from customizations that EVERYBODY has a different opinion about. -- Christopher J. Fearnley | Linux/Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Design Science Revolutionary http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf | Explorer in Universe ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf | Dare to be Naive -- Bucky Fuller -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
# Function for Midnight Commander - see its help screens
mc() {
MC=/tmp/mc$$-$RANDOM
/usr/bin/mc -c -x -P $@ $MC
cd `cat $MC`
rm $MC
unset MC;
}
status_after_prompt() {
prompt_status=$?
if [ $prompt_status != 0 ]
then
echo [status $prompt_status]
fi
}
export PROMPT_COMMAND=status_after_prompt
if [ $TERM == emacs ]
then
export PS1='\w\n\$ '
elif [ $TERM = xterm -o $TERM = xterm-color ]
then
set_titlebar () { echo -n ]2;$*; }
export -f set_titlebar
my_dirname () {
if [ ${PWD#$HOME} != $PWD ]
then
echo '~'${PWD#$HOME}
else
echo $PWD
fi
}
export -f my_dirname
export PS1='\n\!\$ '
PROMPT_COMMAND=$PROMPT_COMMAND';eval set_titlebar
$(whoami)@$(hostname):$(my_dirname)'
export PROMPT_COMMAND
else
export PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\n\!\$ '
fi
# I don't think this is the right way to do this... is it?
if [ $TERM = xterm ]
then
export TERM=xterm-color
tset 2 /dev/null
fi
export PAGER='less'
news -p
echo
fortune -a
echo
check-sendfile
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Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
'=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= wrote:' So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D On May 21, Chris Fearnley wrote No, PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' ! I guess this will become a flame war. So I'd prefer to leave prompt alone. Or maybe the boot disks can have a dialog script to help the user choose a prompt? I'd prefer PS1='\$ ' However, if you want all that fanciness, a compromise is: PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED] \W\$ ' This doesn't eat up your screen when you're way down in the directory tree (you even still wind up using pwd occasionally). Also, I think the space makes the prompt look better than the : But, please remember to consider users of ash, ksh and zsh. -- Raul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John I don't think Debian is really aiming at newbies. (RedHat John is) Debian is aiming at the power user or admin type -- the John people that already know Unix. But you have to consider the case of an ISP that wants to use Debian GNU/Linux. Most of the users have little experience with Linux or Unix. Of course to be an ISP, you have to know enough to at least set up a prompt in /etc/profile... ;-) -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.1.36 AMD K5 PR-133 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote: Anybody should know that before typing rm -rf * or an equivolent, you THINK FIRST, every time. The problem does not arise when you type rm the first time but after you have some confidence and you think you know what you are doing. Everybody knows what you should think first. But who does after getting used to it? Generally, after installing any system, I add this to ~/.profile for root:- alias rm=/bin/rm -i This pretty much stops me from doing anything stupid - especially by a typo, like mistyping rm /etc/*~ as rm /etc/*... I did that once :(. -- Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full public key (also available on keyservers) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
I can put that into the chris-cust package ... On Tue, 20 May 1997, Tom Lees wrote: On Mon, 19 May 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote: Anybody should know that before typing rm -rf * or an equivolent, you THINK FIRST, every time. The problem does not arise when you type rm the first time but after you have some confidence and you think you know what you are doing. Everybody knows what you should think first. But who does after getting used to it? Generally, after installing any system, I add this to ~/.profile for root:- alias rm=/bin/rm -i This pretty much stops me from doing anything stupid - especially by a typo, like mistyping rm /etc/*~ as rm /etc/*... I did that once :(. -- Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lpsg.demon.co.uk/ PGP ID 87D4D065, fingerprint 2A 66 86 9D 02 4D A6 1E B8 A2 17 9D 4F 9B 89 D6 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full public key (also available on keyservers) --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Generally, after installing any system, I add this to ~/.profile for root:- alias rm=/bin/rm -i This is a BAD thing to do. If you want this use a different name, like: alias del=/bin/rm -i Otherwise it is all too easy to get into the habit of doing rm * and picking the ones you want, which is fine until you log into a system that doesn't have the alias, or you su and lose the alias. Cheers, Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
I dont care how the prompt looks. Just pick one and dont leave it the way it is. Who is the maintainer of the package in question? Let him decide. On Wed, 21 May 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: '=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= wrote:' So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D No, PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' ! I guess this will become a flame war. So I'd prefer to leave prompt alone. Or maybe the boot disks can have a dialog script to help the user choose a prompt? -- Christopher J. Fearnley | Linux/Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Design Science Revolutionary http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf | Explorer in Universe ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf | Dare to be Naive -- Bucky Fuller --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
This is why changing the default prompt for everyone is not a good idea. You guys can't even agree on what you want the new prompt to be. And if you want my personal preference, any prompt longer than '$ ' is too long. If I want to know what directory I'm in, I just pwd. Instead of arguing back and forth about this new prompt, please do something constructive. Build a Debian 4 dummies package, which includes your favorite prompt along with all of the other nice defaults that you wish to include. Add a sentence in the package's description that says If you are new to Debian or Linux, this package comes HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. Of course, there will be some technical details with the implementation of this package that will need to be ironed out, such as how to get PS='your favorite prompt' into /etc/profile, but I'm sure that these will be minor. If you want to get fancy, you can also add to this package some useful scripts for configuring a Debian system that no Unix real man would need or want. I believe that the newbie-friendly defaults should be collected in one place and not scattered across many Debian packages. If they are in one package (or a small number of packages), it will be easier for us to define what the Debian newbie-friendly environment is and to plan what we want it to become. I especially believe that these defaults should be optional. Remember, the user should configure her system, not deconfigure it. If she must spend time and effort to rid her system of somebody else's nifty configuration, then IMO we're doing it wrong. Brian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most people that adopt Linux come from DOS. Linux is expanding the UNIX users base. I come from DOS-OS/2 too. I used Slackware, and I changed because it was a mess. Current newbies that start with RH won't change to Debian, they don't need to. And those newbies learn, become `RH-gurus' and sit quietly at home waiting for a commercial corporation to handle their OS =). I also think that we should try to aim to the bigger amount of targets that we can... So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D I agree with most of what you are saying; however, I think you sorta missed the point I was trying to make (which is probably my fault because I didn't make it very clearly g) My problem is not so much with changing root's default prompt on new installations; I have changed the default on my machines anyway. My problem is with going in and changing accepted Unix standards solely to be more friendly to beginners that aren't paying attention to what they are doing. IMHO, people that aren't paying attention before typing a rm -rf * don't have any business running Unix in the first place. Anybody should know that before typing rm -rf * or an equivolent, you THINK FIRST, every time. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
The difference is that RedHat's X configurator configures not only X, but also mail, news, printers, networking, etc. It's a configurator that runs under X -- not really a configurator for XFree86. If we are wanting to go that way; fine. I have no problem with it. As long as we don't go so far as RedHat and make the X configurator the *only* configuration aide in the system. I hate the choice of either having to boot to X or find configs by hand. Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we want to be friendly to newbies, we can write an X configurator like RedHat; but I don't think that's what we want. I've heard rumors of this, but not seen it -- how does it differ from XF86Setup (not xf86config, which is probably what the debian old-timers think of, but the new tk-based config tool that comes with xfree86 3.2?) And what's is license? Any reason we can't bpackage it too, at least as an option? _Mark_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Herd of Kittens Debian X Maintainer -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Anybody should know that before typing rm -rf * or an equivolent, you THINK FIRST, every time. The problem does not arise when you type rm the first time but after you have some confidence and you think you know what you are doing. Everybody knows what you should think first. But who does after getting used to it? --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Oh, I see. Nevermind then -- what you're saying is that the X configurator is at the level of an X based dselect -- so that's the problem of the diety team, right? (Thus it's not something I need to be particularly concerned with.) Thanks... _Mark_ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Anybody should know that before typing rm -rf * or an equivalent, you THINK FIRST, every time. And AFTER you type it. The prompt doesn't make the slightest difference when the death knell sounds: rm: .o: No such file or directory and it dawns on you there was an extra space in the last thing you typed: rm -f * .o Argh! At least GNU rm won't do what a version of Xenix (running on a 80186 :) did to me once. In response to an attempt to to get rid of my personal defaults: # cd /home/phil # rm -rf .* It recursed upwards (..) and killed everything under /home Unix, World of Adventure --- The trick is to keep your backups up to date. Cheers, Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On 19 May 1997, John Goerzen wrote: I agree with most of what you are saying; however, I think you sorta missed the point I was trying to make (which is probably my fault because I didn't make it very clearly g) =) My problem is not so much with changing root's default prompt on new installations; I have changed the default on my machines anyway. My problem is with going in and changing accepted Unix standards solely to be more friendly to beginners that aren't paying attention to what they are doing. IMHO, people that aren't paying attention before typing a rm -rf * don't have any business running Unix in the first place. Anybody should know that before typing rm -rf * or an equivolent, you THINK FIRST, every time. Of course..! I'm not saying that we should add a `Are you sure?' prompt.. =) However, we should be careful to choose _useful_ `accepted UNIX' standards. eg: the prompt $ is the standard. /bin/ash is much more standard than bash. -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On May 19, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote On Mon, 19 May 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote: So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D Too long. But better than nothing. It isn't too long...! [nick] newton:~/src/deb/lftp-0.11.1$ [nick] newton:~/src/deb/lftp-0.11.1$ [nick] newton:~/src/deb/lftp-0.11.1$ ls Or the other version: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/deb/lftp-0.11.1$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/deb/lftp-0.11.1$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/deb/lftp-0.11.1$ _ Note that the first is much more readable...! but it can also be : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/isdn/update/isdnutils-2.0.1/tools/isdnlog/contrib/xisdnload$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/isdn/update/isdnutils-2.0.1/tools/isdnbutton/sample/sample2/etc/rc.d/init.d$ you see : its not a very good one... (these prompts are not constructed ! they are reality, and everytiem i have such a long prompt, i hate my prompt) regards, andreas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Brian Mays wrote: This is why changing the default prompt for everyone is not a good idea. You guys can't even agree on what you want the new prompt to be. And if you want my personal preference, any prompt longer than '$ ' is too long. If I want to know what directory I'm in, I just pwd. Instead of arguing back and forth about this new prompt, please do something constructive. Build a Debian 4 dummies package, which includes your favorite prompt along with all of the other nice defaults that you wish to include. Add a sentence in the package's description that says If you are new to Debian or Linux, this package comes HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. Of course, there will be some technical details with the implementation of this package that will need to be ironed out, such as how to get PS='your favorite prompt' into /etc/profile, but I'm sure that these will be minor. If you want to get fancy, you can also add to this package some useful scripts for configuring a Debian system that no Unix real man would need or want. I believe that the newbie-friendly defaults should be collected in one place and not scattered across many Debian packages. If they are in one package (or a small number of packages), it will be easier for us to define what the Debian newbie-friendly environment is and to plan what we want it to become. I especially believe that these defaults should be optional. Remember, the user should configure her system, not deconfigure it. If she must spend time and effort to rid her system of somebody else's nifty configuration, then IMO we're doing it wrong. I think that this is the kind of thinking that is killing Debian. 1) Newbie setting doesn't mean annoying settings. 2) `real men' like you can change those settings. 3) Configuration packages is an awful idea that goes against the idea of package. A better solution would be a system setting that packages would check an install the apropiate default. 4) We aren't building a distribution only for us. Let's stop being so narrow minded... We need a little of marketing... We need to be known as an easy distribution for newbies... -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Hi, [This may well be orthogonal, or in addition to, the solutions discussed] Maybe we could offer some example of tips and tricks? My preffered prompt mechanism sets the xterm title to (like right now) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/var/tmp with a short prompt of '__ ', or the above becomes my prompt on a non-xterm. I limit the size of the dir string to 25 characters (a perl script run by my cd alias that chops leading dir components untill there is just one left, or the length requirement is satisfied). Some people seem to like this sort of a thing, and this maybe hard for a neophyte to set up. I'm sure that this forum can come up with scads of such ``real men'' examples (sorry, sue and susan) manoj -- The Avis WIZARD decides if you get to drive a car. Your head won't touch the pillow of a Sheraton unless their computer says it's okay. Arthur Miller Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Be prepared to receive lots of messages saying things like unix is for real men that can look manpages set their own prompts and we shouldn't make any decision about the system's look and feel, the sysadm should... The kind of decisions that keep newbie Linux users away from Debian... I don't think Debian is really aiming at newbies. (RedHat is) Debian is aiming at the power user or admin type -- the people that already know Unix. Debian is wonderful for people like that -- you get the raw power of Unix with the most tedious tasks conveniently automated via the package manager. I don't think that we should go around changing defaults like prompts just to be more friendly to newbies. If we want to be friendly to newbies, we can write an X configurator like RedHat; but I don't think that's what we want. Just my two cents... -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
If we want to be friendly to newbies, we can write an X configurator like RedHat; but I don't think that's what we want. I've heard rumors of this, but not seen it -- how does it differ from XF86Setup (not xf86config, which is probably what the debian old-timers think of, but the new tk-based config tool that comes with xfree86 3.2?) And what's is license? Any reason we can't bpackage it too, at least as an option? _Mark_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Herd of Kittens Debian X Maintainer -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On 18 May 1997, John Goerzen wrote: Be prepared to receive lots of messages saying things like unix is for real men that can look manpages set their own prompts and we shouldn't make any decision about the system's look and feel, the sysadm should... The kind of decisions that keep newbie Linux users away from Debian... I don't think Debian is really aiming at newbies. (RedHat is) Debian is aiming at the power user or admin type -- the people that already know Unix. Debian is wonderful for people like that -- you get the raw power of Unix with the most tedious tasks conveniently automated via the package manager. I don't think that we should go around changing defaults like prompts just to be more friendly to newbies. If we want to be friendly to newbies, we can write an X configurator like RedHat; but I don't think that's what we want. I don't agree. Most people that adopt Linux come from DOS. Linux is expanding the UNIX users base. I come from DOS-OS/2 too. I used Slackware, and I changed because it was a mess. Current newbies that start with RH won't change to Debian, they don't need to. And those newbies learn, become `RH-gurus' and sit quietly at home waiting for a commercial corporation to handle their OS =). I also think that we should try to aim to the bigger amount of targets that we can... So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D Too long. But better than nothing. --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
On May 19, Christoph Lameter wrote So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D Too long. But better than nothing. PS=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\\w\\$ ? 2 charaters shorter... :-) regards, andreas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rm -r * and the default prompt
Too long when displayed. Not too long when specified. Wit the hostname and the current directory I already run into more than 80 characters at times. On Mon, 19 May 1997, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: On May 19, Christoph Lameter wrote So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D Too long. But better than nothing. PS=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\\w\\$ ? 2 charaters shorter... :-) regards, andreas --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
