Re: suggestion about debian devel extension
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM, j jj milkwa...@hotmail.com wrote: The open source analysis website runs on free host space. So the storage and the performance are limited, the website is also unstable. Would you still kindly sponsor me a domain ( osa.debian.net) ? I was going to add it but I note the site seems to only list 21 out of the thousands of source packages in Debian. I don't think it is currently useful enough to add a debian.net domain alias. Please let me know if that changes. I would also suggest source.debian.net instead of osa.debian.net since it is more easy to remember. I wish source.debian could be finished soon, and I will try my best to make it better. Keep going! AFAICT it hasn't been started yet, so don't hold your breath :) -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilhq_ebrpodcxu0fepztsa1y_dj0ntlsayi4...@mail.gmail.com
RE: suggestion about debian devel extension
Dear Pabs: I was going to add it but I note the site seems to only list 21 out of the thousands of source packages in Debian. I don't think it is currently useful enough to add a debian.net domain alias. Please let me know if that changes. There are many limitations for free web storage: 1. total storage is limited to 10G, or smaller (1G) 2. without ssh 3. upload files or size of each day is limited. 4. shell exec time is limited Because of shortcomming 1, It is imporsible to upload many packages to the web. The storage usage is 3G for now. Becuase of shortcomming 2, 3, 4, uploading is really tedious and time-cosuming. Currently, there are about 50 packages in my local computer. For some huge packages, it is imporsible to upload them. For example, only the kernel-2.26.22 needs more than 20G storage. The analysis is not perfect now. Finding and removing the bug is still time-undeterment. So the answer: it will be change, but maybe not the same as your expection. (And more, the analysis for c++ is on the way. However, the result is a liittle mess and only the creator know what it means. The analysis for c++ is not practical within 18 or 24 months. Is it good news or bad news? ) I would also suggest source.debian.net instead of osa.debian.net since it is more easy to remember. deal! AFAICT it hasn't been started yet, so don't hold your breath :) :( best wishes, j Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:53:09 +0800 Subject: Re: suggestion about debian devel extension From: p...@debian.org To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM, j jj wrote: The open source analysis website runs on free host space. So the storage and the performance are limited, the website is also unstable. Would you still kindly sponsor me a domain ( osa.debian.net) ? I was going to add it but I note the site seems to only list 21 out of the thousands of source packages in Debian. I don't think it is currently useful enough to add a debian.net domain alias. Please let me know if that changes. I would also suggest source.debian.net instead of osa.debian.net since it is more easy to remember. I wish source.debian could be finished soon, and I will try my best to make it better. Keep going! AFAICT it hasn't been started yet, so don't hold your breath :) -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilhq_ebrpodcxu0fepztsa1y_dj0ntlsayi4...@mail.gmail.com _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/col105-w300f242f7670f1040370fdcf...@phx.gbl
RE: suggestion about debian devel extension
Dear Pabs: Thanks very much for your kind. The open source analysis website runs on free host space. So the storage and the performance are limited, the website is also unstable. Would you still kindly sponsor me a domain ( osa.debian.net) ? I wish source.debian could be finished soon, and I will try my best to make it better. Keep going! best wishes J Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:23:08 +0800 Subject: Re: suggestion about debian devel extension From: p...@debian.org To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Peter Samuelson wrote: 1) Maybe you wanted to have your software packaged and available on Debian mirrors, so developers everywhere could install it to cross-reference their codebases, for local use or for a corporate intranet. (Do people still use the word intranet?) Packaging is generally best done by the person interested in the software. For more info about getting packages into Debian check out the debian-mentors FAQ: http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html 2) Maybe you wanted your site to be linked from some web page, perhaps www.debian.org/devel/. To get that done, file a bug on the www.debian.org pseudo-package: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting 3) Maybe you wanted to obtain a 'debian.net' subdomain, in order to host something that is Debian-related but not officially part of the Debian project. I'd be happy to sponsor you such a domain, which one would you like? 4) Maybe you wanted someone else to host the same. I've no machines or time to do that, perhaps someone else on this list is willing and able. 5) Maybe you wanted the Debian Project to host a copy of your webapp, indexing all of ftp.debian.org, for general public use. There are/were plans for something similar, see the source.d.o section here: http://dsa.debian.org/hardware-wishlist/ Seems to be waiting on hardware and folks to work on it. There also used to be source.d.n, which ran OpenGrok but the maintainer of it didn't have time to keep it working so I had to de-sponsor it. Not exactly a list of yes/no answers but I found your desire for such answers confusing. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim5goitjpqf2ak1p-jzc2iu1asyvziqzqe4a...@mail.gmail.com _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/col105-w65fc0ba2fc600fa572fe63cf...@phx.gbl
RE: suggestion about debian devel extension
Dear Asheesh.
It is very glad to disscuss with you.
That looks pretty cool! What do you mean by put it under debian?
I want to host the website under debian. Because the number of packages in
debian is huge, it is beyond my capibility to build a website with 1/1000
packages in debian. It comes from debian , so it should go under debian. This
means debian has the full control of the website, even dismissing.
How do you find your system compares to OpenGrok? It'd be good to know
about advantages of yours.
OpenGrok is the front end of Exuberant Ctags .
For the advantages of mine:
1. Process condition pre compile directive, the uncompiled parts
will be gray.
It is very useful for multi-system packages. Normally the code for
linux, win. freebsd and so on is mess together. Such code will be annoying for
the coder for particular architecture.
2 File included by #include will be identified.
100% garantee is declaimed for #include directive. The wrong result
with same-name file is impossible.
3. The cross reference is accurate.
For example :
Use ctags, you get :
Searched defs:sigcontext (Results 1 -
4 of 4) sorted by null
/ext3/ext2-gate/usr/src/cmd/csh/i386/signal.h 45 struct
sigcontext { struct
/ext3/ext2-gate/usr/src/cmd/csh/sparc/signal.h 44 struct sigcontext {
struct
/ext3/ext2-gate/usr/src/lib/libbc/inc/include/sys/signal.h 160 struct
sigcontext { struct
/ext3/ext2-gate/usr/src/ucbhead/sys/signal.h 290 struct sigcontext { struct
349 void(*sv_handler)(int, int, struct sigcontext *, char *);
For mine, only one result will returned. even multi results are returned,
they link to the same positiion of the same file.
best wishes,
milkway_3
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 00:25:34 -0400
From: ashe...@asheesh.org
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: suggestion about debian devel extension
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, milkwa...@hotmail.com wrote:
As a programmer under debian, I really appriciate the rich debian
packages.
However, it is not convenient to read and analysis source code, even
with emacs and scsope.
A litte progress has been acheived after fighting for years. You can
test it at http://jp.hostesr.com/.
For benefit of all developers, it is best to put it under debian.
That looks pretty cool! What do you mean by put it under debian?
Also, have you seen OpenGrok? There was effort to put a code index online
using that -- see
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-devel@lists.debian.org/msg281864.html
for a little more discussion of that. It's a pretty intense, effective
code indexer. You can see it live on the OpenSolaris codebase, e.g.
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/ext3/ext2-gate/usr/src/ucblib/libucb/sparc/sys/signal.c
-- check out how signal.h links to the signal.h file that gets used.
How do you find your system compares to OpenGrok? It'd be good to know
about advantages of yours.
It's good to see that you're interested in making code easier to browse
through! That is a real need.
-- Asheesh.
--
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-- Philip Larkin on Anthony Burgess
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Re: suggestion about debian devel extension
On 07/07/2010 03:51 AM, j jj wrote: Dear Asheesh. It is very glad to disscuss with you. That looks pretty cool! What do you mean by put it under debian? I want to host the website under debian. Because the number of packages in debian is huge, it is beyond my capibility to build a website with 1/1000 packages in debian. It comes from debian , so it should go under debian. This means debian has the full control of the website, even dismissing. Do you mean at debian.org? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c34a481.1030...@cox.net
RE: suggestion about debian devel extension
Do you mean at debian.org? Is there any difference between debian and debian.org? The ultimate goal is benefits all developers. Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 11:00:01 -0500 From: ron.l.john...@cox.net To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: suggestion about debian devel extension On 07/07/2010 03:51 AM, j jj wrote: Dear Asheesh. It is very glad to disscuss with you. That looks pretty cool! What do you mean by put it under debian? I want to host the website under debian. Because the number of packages in debian is huge, it is beyond my capibility to build a website with 1/1000 packages in debian. It comes from debian , so it should go under debian. This means debian has the full control of the website, even dismissing. Do you mean at debian.org? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c34a481.1030...@cox.net _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/col105-w4790b8c77c18562aa79691cf...@phx.gbl
Re: suggestion about debian devel extension
Do you mean at debian.org? [j jj] Is there any difference between debian and debian.org? The ultimate goal is benefits all developers. You could have meant several things: 1) Maybe you wanted to have your software packaged and available on Debian mirrors, so developers everywhere could install it to cross-reference their codebases, for local use or for a corporate intranet. (Do people still use the word intranet?) 2) Maybe you wanted your site to be linked from some web page, perhaps www.debian.org/devel/. 3) Maybe you wanted to obtain a 'debian.net' subdomain, in order to host something that is Debian-related but not officially part of the Debian project. 4) Maybe you wanted someone else to host the same. 5) Maybe you wanted the Debian Project to host a copy of your webapp, indexing all of ftp.debian.org, for general public use. It seems you wanted 5), but I for one was not able to figure it out immediately. My first guess was actually 1). -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100708005731.ga3...@p12n.org
RE: suggestion about debian devel extension
You are very smart! Could you or somebody else give me the yes/no answer for the 5 methods? If it depends, depends what? Thanks! Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:57:31 -0500 From: pe...@p12n.org To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: suggestion about debian devel extension Do you mean at debian.org? [j jj] Is there any difference between debian and debian.org? The ultimate goal is benefits all developers. You could have meant several things: 1) Maybe you wanted to have your software packaged and available on Debian mirrors, so developers everywhere could install it to cross-reference their codebases, for local use or for a corporate intranet. (Do people still use the word intranet?) 2) Maybe you wanted your site to be linked from some web page, perhaps www.debian.org/devel/. 3) Maybe you wanted to obtain a 'debian.net' subdomain, in order to host something that is Debian-related but not officially part of the Debian project. 4) Maybe you wanted someone else to host the same. 5) Maybe you wanted the Debian Project to host a copy of your webapp, indexing all of ftp.debian.org, for general public use. It seems you wanted 5), but I for one was not able to figure it out immediately. My first guess was actually 1). -- Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100708005731.ga3...@p12n.org _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/col105-w65def4523444397d00a2b1cf...@phx.gbl
Re: suggestion about debian devel extension
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org wrote: 1) Maybe you wanted to have your software packaged and available on Debian mirrors, so developers everywhere could install it to cross-reference their codebases, for local use or for a corporate intranet. (Do people still use the word intranet?) Packaging is generally best done by the person interested in the software. For more info about getting packages into Debian check out the debian-mentors FAQ: http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html 2) Maybe you wanted your site to be linked from some web page, perhaps www.debian.org/devel/. To get that done, file a bug on the www.debian.org pseudo-package: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting 3) Maybe you wanted to obtain a 'debian.net' subdomain, in order to host something that is Debian-related but not officially part of the Debian project. I'd be happy to sponsor you such a domain, which one would you like? 4) Maybe you wanted someone else to host the same. I've no machines or time to do that, perhaps someone else on this list is willing and able. 5) Maybe you wanted the Debian Project to host a copy of your webapp, indexing all of ftp.debian.org, for general public use. There are/were plans for something similar, see the source.d.o section here: http://dsa.debian.org/hardware-wishlist/ Seems to be waiting on hardware and folks to work on it. There also used to be source.d.n, which ran OpenGrok but the maintainer of it didn't have time to keep it working so I had to de-sponsor it. Not exactly a list of yes/no answers but I found your desire for such answers confusing. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim5goitjpqf2ak1p-jzc2iu1asyvziqzqe4a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: suggestion about debian devel extension
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, milkwa...@hotmail.com wrote: As a programmer under debian, I really appriciate the rich debian packages. However, it is not convenient to read and analysis source code, even with emacs and scsope. A litte progress has been acheived after fighting for years. You can test it at http://jp.hostesr.com/. For benefit of all developers, it is best to put it under debian. That looks pretty cool! What do you mean by put it under debian? Also, have you seen OpenGrok? There was effort to put a code index online using that -- see http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-devel@lists.debian.org/msg281864.html for a little more discussion of that. It's a pretty intense, effective code indexer. You can see it live on the OpenSolaris codebase, e.g. http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/ext3/ext2-gate/usr/src/ucblib/libucb/sparc/sys/signal.c -- check out how signal.h links to the signal.h file that gets used. How do you find your system compares to OpenGrok? It'd be good to know about advantages of yours. It's good to see that you're interested in making code easier to browse through! That is a real need. -- Asheesh. -- A kind of Batman of contemporary letters. -- Philip Larkin on Anthony Burgess -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.00.1007070013130.8...@rose.makesad.us
