Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-30 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org writes:
 Systemtap seems in pretty bad shape. Its removal from testing has been
 requested (See #635543) and will be effective by Saturday if still not
 fixed.

 It you still care about systemtap, please step up and offer your help to
 fix it.

Thanks for the warning. I care about systemtap. I use systemtap to debug
systems for which I always have root access anyway so I don't see
security problems as such a big deal. However, I can work on the build
failures and if patches for security bugs are available I can apply them
too.

I'm currently at debconf so I'll probably miss the Saturday deadline but
that's ok, it can be uploaded again. Please ping me on irc if you want
to meet at debconf.

-Timo


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Re: Forw/Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-29 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 29/07/11 at 11:31 +1000, Nathan Scott wrote:
 Hi Lucas,
 
 On 28 July 2011 04:08, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote:
 
  ...
  What would help:
  - subscribe to systemtap email notifications on the PTS
   (http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemtap.html, see little box on the
   bottom left corner) and contribute to the bug mail when you receive
   some
  - go through systemtap bugs on
 
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=nosrc=systemtap
   comment on them by sending email to bugnum...@bugs.debian.org (e.g
   635...@bugs.debian.org)
 
  I'm interested in systemtap, but don't have much time to spend on
  maintaining it currently. I don't know:
 
 
 I'm in a similar camp - I'd like to help but time is always the enemy.  I
 would
 be interested in being part of a maintainer team though, if others are keen?
 I'm happy to go through the current deb packaging and update it for current
 systemtap and to the current deb standards version (unless someone has
 already started?) but I wont be able to do that by tomorrow.

Hi,

Please get in touch with the other systemtap maintainer (Ritesh Raj
Sarraf r...@debian.org, Cced). He currently has the lock on the
update of 1.6. Help is of course welcomed.

Lucas


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Re: Forw/Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-29 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On 07/29/2011 12:17 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 Please get in touch with the other systemtap maintainer (Ritesh Raj
 Sarraf r...@debian.org, Cced). He currently has the lock on the
 update of 1.6. Help is of course welcomed.

Yes, please. Any help is appreciated. If you'd like to co-maintain,
please respond to this email. I'll add you to uploaders.

The 1.6 packaging is almost done. It runs on my box.

TODO:
* 1.6 stripped down many things. The systemtap-client package is almost
empty. The only worthy file it installs is stap-env. I'm not sure if
that is still required (I use stap only on my local box).

* There were a bunch of CVEs. We need to run through them to check which
all are fixed in the 1.6 release.  If they are not, we need to pull in
those fixes.

* There's also an FTBFS with newer gcc. That needs to be fixed.


Frank, can you please confirm if the following CVEs are fixed in 1.6 ?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2011-2502
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2011-2503
CVE-2011-1769
CVE-2011-1781

It doesn't talk about the exact systemtap version in the bug report.


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Re: Forw/Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-29 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Hi, Ritesh -

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 01:01:54PM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 [...]
 The 1.6 packaging is almost done. It runs on my box.

Thank you very much.

 TODO:
 * 1.6 stripped down many things. The systemtap-client package is almost
 empty. The only worthy file it installs is stap-env. I'm not sure if
 that is still required (I use stap only on my local box).

You can eliminate the -client subpackage entirely.  That facility is
built into the main stap executable now.

 * There were a bunch of CVEs. We need to run through them to check which
 all are fixed in the 1.6 release.  If they are not, we need to pull in
 those fixes.

They are.

 * There's also an FTBFS with newer gcc. That needs to be fixed.

We're happy to pull in such patches; we'll keep an eye out here:

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/systemtap.git;a=tree;f=debian/patches

- FChE


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Re: Forw/Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-28 Thread Nathan Scott
Hi Lucas,

On 28 July 2011 04:08, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote:

 ...
 What would help:
 - subscribe to systemtap email notifications on the PTS
  (http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemtap.html, see little box on the
  bottom left corner) and contribute to the bug mail when you receive
  some
 - go through systemtap bugs on

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=nosrc=systemtap
  comment on them by sending email to bugnum...@bugs.debian.org (e.g
  635...@bugs.debian.org)

 I'm interested in systemtap, but don't have much time to spend on
 maintaining it currently. I don't know:


I'm in a similar camp - I'd like to help but time is always the enemy.  I
would
be interested in being part of a maintainer team though, if others are keen?
I'm happy to go through the current deb packaging and update it for current
systemtap and to the current deb standards version (unless someone has
already started?) but I wont be able to do that by tomorrow.

- how many of the current critical issues affecting the Debian package
  are fixed in the latest upstream version (1.5). (I expect all of
  them)

 - if that latest upstream version would work on Debian

 Any input on that would be very much appreciated.


It works well (for non-uprobe tracing), I've used 1.5 recently on unstable,
and I'd expect 1.6 to be OK there too.

cheers.

--
Nathan


Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-27 Thread Mehdi Dogguy

Hello,

Systemtap seems in pretty bad shape. Its removal from testing has been
requested (See #635543) and will be effective by Saturday if still not
fixed.

It you still care about systemtap, please step up and offer your help to
fix it.

Regards,

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http://dogguy.org/


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Forw/Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-27 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Hi -

mehdi wrote on debian-devel:

 Systemtap seems in pretty bad shape. Its removal from testing has
 been requested (See #635543) and will be effective by Saturday if
 still not fixed.  It you still care about systemtap, please step up
 and offer your help to fix it.

While we have no debian contributors on the team, would it help if we
adopt debian build metadata within the source tree?

(For what it's worth, the recent unprivileged-usage-related security
problems may not affect debian, as debian kernels lack user-space
probing support, so unprivileged/stapusr configurations are unlikely.)

- FChE


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Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-27 Thread Mehdi Dogguy

On 07/27/2011 11:42 AM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:


Systemtap seems in pretty bad shape. Its removal from testing has been
requested (See #635543) and will be effective by Saturday if still not
fixed.



hum, Julien already put a hint for it and it is now removed from testing.
It is always possible to have it back as soon as it gets fixed.

Regards,

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Re: Forw/Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/07/11 at 10:39 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
 Hi -
 
 mehdi wrote on debian-devel:
 
  Systemtap seems in pretty bad shape. Its removal from testing has
  been requested (See #635543) and will be effective by Saturday if
  still not fixed.  It you still care about systemtap, please step up
  and offer your help to fix it.
 
 While we have no debian contributors on the team, would it help if we
 adopt debian build metadata within the source tree?

Hi,

I don't think so: it's usually considered better practice to keep the
debian packaging separate from the upstream sources (even if YMMV).

What would help:
- subscribe to systemtap email notifications on the PTS
  (http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemtap.html, see little box on the
  bottom left corner) and contribute to the bug mail when you receive
  some
- go through systemtap bugs on
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=nosrc=systemtap
  comment on them by sending email to bugnum...@bugs.debian.org (e.g
  635...@bugs.debian.org)

I'm interested in systemtap, but don't have much time to spend on
maintaining it currently. I don't know:

- how many of the current critical issues affecting the Debian package
  are fixed in the latest upstream version (1.5). (I expect all of
  them)

- if that latest upstream version would work on Debian

Any input on that would be very much appreciated.

If you want to dig deeper, the debian package are available from git
(see links on the PTS page mentioned above).

Thanks,

- Lucas


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Re: Forw/Re: Removal of systemtap from testing

2011-07-27 Thread Josh Stone
On 07/27/2011 11:08 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 I'm interested in systemtap, but don't have much time to spend on
 maintaining it currently. I don't know:
 
 - how many of the current critical issues affecting the Debian package
   are fixed in the latest upstream version (1.5). (I expect all of
   them)

The latest is actually 1.6, released two days ago.  All known security
bugs are fixed in that release.  Compatibility issues should also be
fixed, e.g. for the gcc 4.6 bug 625414.  If for some reason you couldn't
update to the latest, we can certainly help identify the patches needed.

 - if that latest upstream version would work on Debian

It should.  We strive to maintain compatibility all the way from RHEL4
(kernel 2.6.9+) to Fedora rawhide (now kernel 3.0).  So as much as any
older version of systemtap worked on Debian, the new should too, and
we'll gladly accept bugs reporting otherwise.


Josh


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