Re: [External] Re: Touchpad driver on Lenovo X13 Yoga has major use-stopping bugs

2022-01-17 Thread Mark Pearson


On 1/17/22 03:16, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> Hi G.W.,
> 
> I don't think the debian-devel mailing list is the right place to debug
> this. Debugging this will need going back and forth over logs etc. The
> best place to advance on this problem is to go the debian IRC channel
> https://wiki.debian.org/IRC>> and do the diagnosing interactively there.
> 
As the X13 Yoga G2is part of the Lenovo Linux certified problem I might
be able to help you with this. Admittedly if this is Debian specific I'm
going to be a bit more limited in what I can do - but if you can send me
details on what touchpad FW you are using I'll see if we can reproduce
and I think I have an X13 G2 and will happily install Debian on it to
see if I can reproduce the issue once I have more details.

Normally touchpad issues tend to be the same distro to distro. Right now
I'm digging into some issues we've had around Elan trackpoint with
Synaptics touchpad - but that doesn't seem the same as you are seeing.

I'm not sure if it's rude or not (apologies Debian community if it is,
my intent is to share a resource not to shill), but I'll flag the lenovo
Linux forums
(https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Operating-Systems/ct-p/lx_en) as
another resource for Lenovo specific issues - we try and support any OS,
not just the ones we certify. We have a fairly active community and
others may have seen the same, and myself and some of the Lenovo team do
lurk on there and try to help where we can.

If you can send me your kernel logs and any specific steps to reproduce
that would help (probably best off list). I'll see what I can find.

I'm afraid I'm not on the Debian IRC (too many different chat tools in
my life to have even more :)) so do try there and you hopefully get some
Debian specific answers.

Mark (I work on the Lenovo Linux team)

> Greetings,
> *t
> 
> On 16.01.22 21:03, G.W. wrote:
>> Are the developers aware of a major bug in the "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193
>> Touchpad" touchpad driver?
>>
>> I tried getting help for the problem of the touchpad suddenly
>> requiring 2 fingers to move the cursor around (on USER list) but no
>> help was offered. The touchpad situation deteriorates to get worse
>> with more things going wrong without regular restarts. Having gone a
>> few days without restarting the computer the touchpad settings have no
>> failed to work at all. For example, even though I have "tap to click"
>> disabled, tapping still results in a click. Even though I have the
>> setting enabled to disable touchpad while typing, touchpad is not
>> disable while typing.
>>
>> these problems prevent any work from getting done cause typing results
>> in the cursor moving position on its own resulting in my typing into a
>> place above or below where I'm actually typing, among other problems.
>>
>> Can anything be done to fix this situation? Or is my only fix to move
>> to a different distro? The main reason I chose Debian is to not have
>> to deal with crippling use bugs like this one. Are the devs doing
>> anything to fix this bug ASAP? Can you offer any help?
>>
>> I am running Debian 11 fully up to date on a Lenovo X13 Yoga Gen 2.
>>
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>>
>> On Friday, January 14th, 2022 at 10:41 AM, G.W.
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> I was hoping someone could help me solve a problem on Debian 11
>>> (bullseye) with GNOME 3.38.5. I am fully up to date.
>>>
>>> I very much want to restore single finger function on touchpad
>>> without having to reboot. After using touchpad on Lenovo laptop for a
>>> while it often starts requiring 2 fingers on the touchpad to move the
>>> cursor and actions that would require 2 fingers then start requiring
>>> 3. Single finger is ignored entirely.
>>>
>>> My touchpad driver appears to be: ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad
>>>
>>> Rebooting always corrects the issue. but executing the following
>>> command does NOT correct the issue: xinput disable "ELAN0674:00
>>> 04F3:3193 Touchpad" && xinput enable "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad"
>>>
>>> Perhaps this is not a good medium for trying to solve this problem.
>>> Is there something akin to "Ask Ubuntu" that serves the Debian
>>> community? If this is not a good medium for solving this problem, can
>>> you please direct me an appropriate medium? I posted this question on
>>> the Debian forums but have received zero replies.
>>
> 



Re: Touchpad driver on Lenovo X13 Yoga has major use-stopping bugs

2022-01-17 Thread Tomas Pospisek

Hi G.W.,

I don't think the debian-devel mailing list is the right place to debug 
this. Debugging this will need going back and forth over logs etc. The 
best place to advance on this problem is to go the debian IRC channel 
https://wiki.debian.org/IRC and do the diagnosing interactively there.


Greetings,
*t

On 16.01.22 21:03, G.W. wrote:

Are the developers aware of a major bug in the "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad" 
touchpad driver?

I tried getting help for the problem of the touchpad suddenly requiring 2 fingers to move 
the cursor around (on USER list) but no help was offered. The touchpad situation 
deteriorates to get worse with more things going wrong without regular restarts. Having 
gone a few days without restarting the computer the touchpad settings have no failed to 
work at all. For example, even though I have "tap to click" disabled, tapping 
still results in a click. Even though I have the setting enabled to disable touchpad 
while typing, touchpad is not disable while typing.

these problems prevent any work from getting done cause typing results in the 
cursor moving position on its own resulting in my typing into a place above or 
below where I'm actually typing, among other problems.

Can anything be done to fix this situation? Or is my only fix to move to a 
different distro? The main reason I chose Debian is to not have to deal with 
crippling use bugs like this one. Are the devs doing anything to fix this bug 
ASAP? Can you offer any help?

I am running Debian 11 fully up to date on a Lenovo X13 Yoga Gen 2.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Friday, January 14th, 2022 at 10:41 AM, G.W.  wrote:


I was hoping someone could help me solve a problem on Debian 11 (bullseye) with 
GNOME 3.38.5. I am fully up to date.

I very much want to restore single finger function on touchpad without having 
to reboot. After using touchpad on Lenovo laptop for a while it often starts 
requiring 2 fingers on the touchpad to move the cursor and actions that would 
require 2 fingers then start requiring 3. Single finger is ignored entirely.

My touchpad driver appears to be: ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad

Rebooting always corrects the issue. but executing the following command does NOT correct the issue: xinput 
disable "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad" && xinput enable "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 
Touchpad"

Perhaps this is not a good medium for trying to solve this problem. Is there something 
akin to "Ask Ubuntu" that serves the Debian community? If this is not a good 
medium for solving this problem, can you please direct me an appropriate medium? I posted 
this question on the Debian forums but have received zero replies.






Touchpad driver on Lenovo X13 Yoga has major use-stopping bugs

2022-01-16 Thread G.W.
Are the developers aware of a major bug in the "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad" 
touchpad driver?

I tried getting help for the problem of the touchpad suddenly requiring 2 
fingers to move the cursor around (on USER list) but no help was offered. The 
touchpad situation deteriorates to get worse with more things going wrong 
without regular restarts. Having gone a few days without restarting the 
computer the touchpad settings have no failed to work at all. For example, even 
though I have "tap to click" disabled, tapping still results in a click. Even 
though I have the setting enabled to disable touchpad while typing, touchpad is 
not disable while typing.

these problems prevent any work from getting done cause typing results in the 
cursor moving position on its own resulting in my typing into a place above or 
below where I'm actually typing, among other problems.

Can anything be done to fix this situation? Or is my only fix to move to a 
different distro? The main reason I chose Debian is to not have to deal with 
crippling use bugs like this one. Are the devs doing anything to fix this bug 
ASAP? Can you offer any help?

I am running Debian 11 fully up to date on a Lenovo X13 Yoga Gen 2.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On Friday, January 14th, 2022 at 10:41 AM, G.W.  wrote:

> I was hoping someone could help me solve a problem on Debian 11 (bullseye) 
> with GNOME 3.38.5. I am fully up to date.
>
> I very much want to restore single finger function on touchpad without having 
> to reboot. After using touchpad on Lenovo laptop for a while it often starts 
> requiring 2 fingers on the touchpad to move the cursor and actions that would 
> require 2 fingers then start requiring 3. Single finger is ignored entirely.
>
> My touchpad driver appears to be: ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad
>
> Rebooting always corrects the issue. but executing the following command does 
> NOT correct the issue: xinput disable "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad" && 
> xinput enable "ELAN0674:00 04F3:3193 Touchpad"
>
> Perhaps this is not a good medium for trying to solve this problem. Is there 
> something akin to "Ask Ubuntu" that serves the Debian community? If this is 
> not a good medium for solving this problem, can you please direct me an 
> appropriate medium? I posted this question on the Debian forums but have 
> received zero replies.