Re: binutils security support (Re: fixing debian-security-support upgrades from stretch (for good))

2019-06-19 Thread Christoph Martin


Am 14.05.19 um 23:39 schrieb Moritz Mühlenhoff:
> Holger Levsen  schrieb:
>> (and yes, I also agree this is quite a desaster, just like
>> kde4libs/khtml only is suitable for trusted content, which IOW means,
>> one should not use konqueror or kmail on the interweb.)
> 
> That is the upstream status quo and not in any way specific to Debian,
> we're just the only ones transparent about it instead of wiping it
> under the carpet.

Thanks for the clarification.

It would be helpful, if this remark about the missing *upstream* support
was in debian-security-support in addition to the line

>   Details: Not covered by security support

It took me some time find the remark in debian-devel.

Christoph



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Re: binutils security support (Re: fixing debian-security-support upgrades from stretch (for good))

2019-05-15 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:39:50PM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> Holger Levsen  schrieb:
> > (and yes, I also agree this is quite a desaster, just like
> > kde4libs/khtml only is suitable for trusted content, which IOW means,
> > one should not use konqueror or kmail on the interweb.)
> That is the upstream status quo and not in any way specific to Debian,
> we're just the only ones transparent about it instead of wiping it
> under the carpet.

yes, and I'm thankful for this. apologies if my mail didn't express that.


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Re: binutils security support (Re: fixing debian-security-support upgrades from stretch (for good))

2019-05-14 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Holger Levsen  schrieb:
> (and yes, I also agree this is quite a desaster, just like
> kde4libs/khtml only is suitable for trusted content, which IOW means,
> one should not use konqueror or kmail on the interweb.)

That is the upstream status quo and not in any way specific to Debian,
we're just the only ones transparent about it instead of wiping it
under the carpet.

Cheers,
Moritz



binutils security support (Re: fixing debian-security-support upgrades from stretch (for good))

2019-05-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 02:17:46PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> I strongly object to adding this package, and its dependency 
> gettext-base, to the transitive essential set.

I'll respond to this in a moment. (I agree but it just takes a bit
longer to respond to this.)

> I tried installing it (I had never heard of it before) and I see that it 
> immediately complains about the version of binutils currently in 
> unstable, so I also have serious doubts about the usefulness of 
> a security tool which will always report an alarm.

well, binutils *is* not covered by Debian's security support, and I
do agree that this is useful information this tool should provide.

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debian-security-support/commit/039d2470d28e858bb29c3f9f0cde8e61e1936719

(and yes, I also agree this is quite a desaster, just like
kde4libs/khtml only is suitable for trusted content, which IOW means,
one should not use konqueror or kmail on the interweb.)


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