Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because they are third party repositories and not affiliated in any official way with the Debian project. But these two repositories are very popular with users. Which doesn't make them official. Better spend your time helping those projects with becoming official! -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Hi, On Monday 07 April 2008 19:57, Peter Jordan wrote: why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? I guess this was answered already in this thread :-) At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. No need to do this without a trust path at all, it just needs five easy and documented steps to add those keys with a trust path, for the backports archive see: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Etch/HowTo/Administration#head-136bb7e75e07e8b6463e6b30761ac51776c5c27d That said, I would appreciate debian-backports-archive-keyring package in Debian main, just like there is a debian-edu-archive-keyring. I wouldn't want a debian-multimedia-archive-keyring package in Debian (main), as this archive doesnt promise to comply to the DFSG as the other three archives do. Contrib would probably fine. ITPs anyone? regards, Holger pgpLE4hCmF2dl.pgp Description: PGP signature
debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Hi, why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. PJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, Hi why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are no official Debian services (yet?). Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Luk Claes, 04/07/08 20:05: Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, Hi why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are no official Debian services (yet?). but the repositories does not need to be official debian services, only the keyrings should be available over the official debian repository. PJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Peter Jordan wrote: Luk Claes, 04/07/08 20:05: Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, Hi why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are no official Debian services (yet?). but the repositories does not need to be official debian services, only the keyrings should be available over the official debian repository. No, as that would imply that they are or at least will be official Debian services and open the door for every archive provider to ask for adding their key... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Peter Jordan wrote: but the repositories does not need to be official debian services, only the keyrings should be available over the official debian repository. That may make some sense, but you do understand that by making them available they wouldn't be any more official and any more trusted, right? If we provide them as packages, it may be misunderstood for our users as a recommendation, at best, which IMHO isn't worth the hassle. Better to keep the key-adding just as manual as the sources.list editing. This, of course, from the perspective that there is no official trust relationship. If there is one that I'm unaware of, then by all means, file an RFP! Cheers -- Leo costela Antunes [insert a witty retort here] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:14:19PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: but the repositories does not need to be official debian services, only the keyrings should be available over the official debian repository. You can get the keys for those sites yourself and add them to the apt keyring. Backports.org even gives you explicit instructions on how to do that. -- James GPG Key: 1024D/61326D40 2003-09-02 James Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Hi, On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 19:57 +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are third party repositories and not affiliated in any official way with the Debian project. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/07/08 13:20, Luk Claes wrote: Peter Jordan wrote: Luk Claes, 04/07/08 20:05: Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, Hi why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are no official Debian services (yet?). but the repositories does not need to be official debian services, only the keyrings should be available over the official debian repository. No, as that would imply that they are or at least will be official Debian services and open the door for every archive provider to ask for adding their key... Governments need silly all-encompassing rule sets to appear fair. Debian doesn't. IOW, adding debian-multimedia-keyring and debian-backports-keyring doesn't mean that you've got to add every other unofficial archive keyring, even though that archive's owner screams that's not fair!. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shrubbery!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH+m6SS9HxQb37XmcRAlAyAJsEpZ7lo5n93H/zv+0ed8AB372SCQCg4J+b 3ViyXLNWSesIRcBSA0AtZ0E= =xs1z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/07/08 13:53, William Pitcock wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 19:57 +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are third party repositories and not affiliated in any official way with the Debian project. But these two repositories are very popular with users. A firm, unambiguous disclaimer in the package's long description should be adequate. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shrubbery!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH+m70S9HxQb37XmcRAgQrAKCITFv/IibuTTtjBBw3BvimIqpHLwCggn7u AH/wpg/+1MvgXYkrzcGjhUU= =y+xL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/07/08 13:20, Luk Claes wrote: Peter Jordan wrote: Luk Claes, 04/07/08 20:05: Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, Hi why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are no official Debian services (yet?). but the repositories does not need to be official debian services, only the keyrings should be available over the official debian repository. No, as that would imply that they are or at least will be official Debian services and open the door for every archive provider to ask for adding their key... Governments need silly all-encompassing rule sets to appear fair. Debian doesn't. IOW, adding debian-multimedia-keyring and debian-backports-keyring doesn't mean that you've got to add every other unofficial archive keyring, even though that archive's owner screams that's not fair!. Indeed, so we don't need to add these neither even though you scream it's unfair :-) There has to be a line somewhere and the current line makes sense to everyone, so I don't need we will change it... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/07/08 15:34, Luk Claes wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/07/08 13:20, Luk Claes wrote: Peter Jordan wrote: Luk Claes, 04/07/08 20:05: Peter Jordan wrote: Hi, Hi why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not in the official repository of debian? At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use these repositories. Because they are no official Debian services (yet?). but the repositories does not need to be official debian services, only the keyrings should be available over the official debian repository. No, as that would imply that they are or at least will be official Debian services and open the door for every archive provider to ask for adding their key... Governments need silly all-encompassing rule sets to appear fair. Debian doesn't. IOW, adding debian-multimedia-keyring and debian-backports-keyring doesn't mean that you've got to add every other unofficial archive keyring, even though that archive's owner screams that's not fair!. Indeed, so we don't need to add these neither even though you scream it's unfair :-) Actually, OP and I are not screaming that not add the 2 keyring packages is unfair. There has to be a line somewhere and the current line makes sense to everyone, so I don't need we will change it... As is your prerogative... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shrubbery!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH+sFrS9HxQb37XmcRArDCAJ0XboaceDYoLxknkV0ZmHx8JYXujACfQRKs H1FY+0KuHGQvVGs3ScG6ukY= =bLSm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
