Re: gconftool

2012-03-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/30/2012 03:38 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
 This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
 general usage questions on debian-user.
 I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as
 a support issue or general usage.

 By the way, I agree with him about the fact gnome settings
 are as stupid as the windows registry, and not user friendly
 at all.
 
 And what useful contribution should this be to this list?

The point is that we should try to keep things simple,
understandable, and maintainable by most. I agree with that,
but I don't know systemd and can't tell if that's not the case.

Thomas

P.S: Please don't Cc: me.


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Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
 This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
 general usage questions on debian-user.
   
I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as
a support issue or general usage.

By the way, I agree with him about the fact gnome settings
are as stupid as the windows registry, and not user friendly
at all.

Thomas


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Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread David Weinehall
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
  This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
  general usage questions on debian-user.

 I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as
 a support issue or general usage.

No, you're right. Rants don't really belong on any of our lists...

Also, we're not upstream.  Any issues that aren't Debian specific
should be filed in the upstream Bugzilla.


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Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
  This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
  general usage questions on debian-user.
 I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as
 a support issue or general usage.
 
 By the way, I agree with him about the fact gnome settings
 are as stupid as the windows registry, and not user friendly
 at all.

And what useful contribution should this be to this list?

Kind regards
Philipp Kern 


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Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 21:38 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
  On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
   This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
   general usage questions on debian-user.
  I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as
  a support issue or general usage.
  
  By the way, I agree with him about the fact gnome settings
  are as stupid as the windows registry, and not user friendly
  at all.
 
 And what useful contribution should this be to this list?

I think it gives an indication on which packages should be used as
default for Debian GNU/*. And I think that the Debian
preferred/recommended packages has a very large impact on upstream
developers. Of course specific UI usage issues, should not be discussed
on Debian lists. Nevertheless, Debian has a large share of the number of
users[1] out there.

[1]
{\begin rant}
Yes, these bastards using the software and reporting bugs and proposing
patches, not developing it or maintaining it ;).
{\end rant}


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gconftool

2012-03-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 21:17 +, Philipp Kern wrote:
 On 2012-03-23, Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com wrote:
  The man pages are not very informative either.
 
 lol whut?
 
 You're arguing for CLI tools and then fail to read our all favourite
 documentation source?
 
 $ gconftool --all-dirs /
  /system
  /desktop
  /schemas
  /apps

So what?? How is this related to my desktop behaviour. Very intuitive,
yes? And where are the config files, even if they are xml? Default
settings, etc, you name it...

And where is the man page describing this? Have not found it yet...

Developers are surely not users..., different views. Ok, I admit this is
not a Debian/GNU issue, more general, but nevertheless.
 


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Re: gconftool

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Banck
Hi,

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:32:09PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 21:17 +, Philipp Kern wrote:
  On 2012-03-23, Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com wrote:
   The man pages are not very informative either.
  
  lol whut?
  
  You're arguing for CLI tools and then fail to read our all favourite
  documentation source?
  
  $ gconftool --all-dirs /
   /system
   /desktop
   /schemas
   /apps
 
 So what?? How is this related to my desktop behaviour. Very intuitive,
 yes? And where are the config files, even if they are xml? Default
 settings, etc, you name it...

This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
general usage questions on debian-user.


Thanks,

Michael


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