Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: Consider using _rspamd instead to make any conflicts with local users less likely. (You will need to use the --force-badname option to adduser.) I'll go this route: more aesthetically pleasing compared to Debian- prefix. Also, ps. I'm still in awe regarding ability of CFEngine to reliably match processes by parsing ps(1) output. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajgook8wjnci3cvcsd3kqk2v3f8mqjwftumkruwusv2wnvo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: SysV already works! Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
Hello, 'OdyX' (please use your real name?): On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:10 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote: Hi Mark, Le samedi, 22 février 2014, 21.58:15 Mark Symonds a écrit : Please stop. We can't win with all this fighting… I suspect there is SABOTAGE happening within the Debian project, we never thought it possible but that doesn't change anything we've seen. A fork might be easier? Multiple forks? (while they waste their time) This is definitively off-topic. Thanks for letting everyone know that you 'own' this list. …there is this thing. It's called 'free speech'. Le samedi, 22 février 2014, 21.47:46 Mark Symonds a écrit : On Feb 22, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: The other advantage over debian- is that it doesn't add as many characters, making it less likely that programs like ps and ls will give up and show UIDs instead of names. Which always confuses at least me, as I try to figure out why processes are running as users that aren't properly created on the system. Utterly *horrible* behavior; Typical excuse. …always knew we could rely upon you. Save us And this is is unnecessarily offensive against Russ. *Exactly* how? There is some truth to what I said, which is exactly why you replied. Please consider bringing constructive comments if you want to contribute to debian-devel. Why are you trying to silence the voice of truth? SysV is already perfectly reasonable to everyone. Please explain *specifically*, what the specific advantages of systemd are? -- Mark signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
rspamd user/group for rspamd package
Hi. I'd like to check with you that it is ok to create dynamically-allocated system user and group `rspamd' for package `rspamd' (bug #683746). Best regards, Mikhail Gusarov. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajgook9nb9x3ppphiiyamwcqjmnvckczothnkt+bhkrpezl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
Mikhail Gusarov dotted...@debian.org writes: I'd like to check with you that it is ok to create dynamically-allocated system user and group `rspamd' for package `rspamd' (bug #683746). Consider using _rspamd instead to make any conflicts with local users less likely. (You will need to use the --force-badname option to adduser.) -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y512bp0m@windlord.stanford.edu
Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
On 23/02/14 01:01, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: I'd like to check with you that it is ok to create dynamically-allocated system user and group `rspamd' for package `rspamd' (bug #683746). Consensus on this recently seemed to be that there's no real way of preventing users from creating collisions because the namespaces are shared, but a method that's been adopted by quite a few packages is to prefix system users with debian- so your system user would be debian-rspamd. You can find the recent thread here if you'd like to read it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00187.html Iain. -- urn:x-human:Iain R. Learmonth http://iain.learmonth.me/ mailto:i...@fsfe.org xmpp:i...@jabber.fsfe.org tel:+447875886930 GPG Fingerprint: 1F72 607C 5FF2 CCD5 3F01 600D 56FF 9EA4 E984 6C49 Please verify out-of-band before trusting with sensitive information. [[[ To any GCHQ or other security service agents reading my email: ]]] [[[ Please consider if any professional body code of conduct to]]] [[[ which you subscribe requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] [[[ Your professional membership, chartered or incorporated status ]]] [[[ may be at risk.]]] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
On 23/02/14 01:28, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: You can find the recent thread here if you'd like to read it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00187.html Iain. Ignore me there. It seems that at the end of the thread it did settle on prefixing with _ for the reason Russ has given. Warnings are thrown when someone attempts to create users prefixed with an underscore. Iain. -- urn:x-human:Iain R. Learmonth http://iain.learmonth.me/ mailto:i...@fsfe.org xmpp:i...@jabber.fsfe.org tel:+447875886930 GPG Fingerprint: 1F72 607C 5FF2 CCD5 3F01 600D 56FF 9EA4 E984 6C49 Please verify out-of-band before trusting with sensitive information. [[[ To any GCHQ or other security service agents reading my email: ]]] [[[ Please consider if any professional body code of conduct to]]] [[[ which you subscribe requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] [[[ Your professional membership, chartered or incorporated status ]]] [[[ may be at risk.]]] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org writes: On 23/02/14 01:28, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: You can find the recent thread here if you'd like to read it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00187.html Ignore me there. It seems that at the end of the thread it did settle on prefixing with _ for the reason Russ has given. Warnings are thrown when someone attempts to create users prefixed with an underscore. The other advantage over debian- is that it doesn't add as many characters, making it less likely that programs like ps and ls will give up and show UIDs instead of names. Which always confuses at least me, as I try to figure out why processes are running as users that aren't properly created on the system. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txbqboh7@windlord.stanford.edu
SysV already works! Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
Please stop. We can't win with all this fighting… I suspect there is SABOTAGE happening within the Debian project, we never thought it possible but that doesn't change anything we've seen. A fork might be easier? Multiple forks? (while they waste their time) On Feb 22, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org wrote: On 23/02/14 01:28, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: You can find the recent thread here if you'd like to read it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00187.html Iain. Ignore me there. It seems that at the end of the thread it did settle on prefixing with _ for the reason Russ has given. Warnings are thrown when someone attempts to create users prefixed with an underscore. Iain. -- urn:x-human:Iain R. Learmonth http://iain.learmonth.me/ mailto:i...@fsfe.org xmpp:i...@jabber.fsfe.org tel:+447875886930 GPG Fingerprint: 1F72 607C 5FF2 CCD5 3F01 600D 56FF 9EA4 E984 6C49 Please verify out-of-band before trusting with sensitive information. [[[ To any GCHQ or other security service agents reading my email: ]]] [[[ Please consider if any professional body code of conduct to]]] [[[ which you subscribe requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] [[[ Your professional membership, chartered or incorporated status ]]] [[[ may be at risk.]]] signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: rspamd user/group for rspamd package
Hello, On Feb 22, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org writes: On 23/02/14 01:28, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: You can find the recent thread here if you'd like to read it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00187.html Ignore me there. It seems that at the end of the thread it did settle on prefixing with _ for the reason Russ has given. Warnings are thrown when someone attempts to create users prefixed with an underscore. The other advantage over debian- is that it doesn't add as many characters, making it less likely that programs like ps and ls will give up and show UIDs instead of names. Which always confuses at least me, as I try to figure out why processes are running as users that aren't properly created on the system. Utterly *horrible* behavior; Typical excuse. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ …always knew we could rely upon you. Save us signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
