Re: Debian planet

2009-01-06 Por tema Adeodato Simó
* David Moreno [Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:15:45 -0500]:

 replaced by a Spanish planet closed to Debian developers only
 (set where I was not included anyway, but it's not of surprise)

You don't seem to have a blog in Spanish, so it's indeed no surprise.
(If you have one, it's not on http://planeta.debian.net, where it would
have surely been noticed.)

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Re: Debian planet

2009-01-06 Por tema David Moreno
On 19:15 Tue 06 Jan 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote:
 You don't seem to have a blog in Spanish, so it's indeed no surprise.
 (If you have one, it's not on http://planeta.debian.net, where it would
 have surely been noticed.)

Thanks for noticing 3

I recently removed the one I had syndicated there so to not show English
entries, while I thought how to proceed with the entries, on my naïve
attempt to clear things up on planeta and make it a nicer place for
everybody. Since I was made to fail on this, not much makes sense now,
anyway.

I will be importing planeta's subscribers list into /es soon and
re-direct URL and feeds, because that's how the people wanted it,
their way or highway.

Again, thanks for noticing @}-;-

D.


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Re: Debian planet

2009-01-06 Por tema Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 01:50:57PM -0500, David Moreno wrote:
 
 I will be importing planeta's subscribers list into /es soon and
 re-direct URL and feeds, because that's how the people wanted it,
 their way or highway.


It would be nice if you wait until we can set up some not strict but needed 
rules about the content we want in planet/es.
I would like to avoid stuff like Andrés Garcés's latest post titled Una Novia
en Linux Debian in the future. And I am sure we all will agree on this...

AFAIK, tincho is going to be this planet's instance maintainer and he is now
in holidays (and after this awesome debconf he really deserves it!). So I
hope we can wait until next week when he is back.

Ana


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Re: Debian planet

2009-01-06 Por tema David Moreno
On 20:05 Tue 06 Jan 2009, Ana Guerrero wrote:
 It would be nice if you wait until we can set up some not strict but needed 
 rules about the content we want in planet/es.
 I would like to avoid stuff like Andrés Garcés's latest post titled Una Novia
 en Linux Debian in the future. And I am sure we all will agree on this...

Well, he asked to be included on this same mailing list:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-spanish/2008/12/msg00010.html

And nobody said anything, so I added him, trying to avoid the same
problems that happened before where I tried to stop someone
not-to-related to Debian and people cried and flamed about it.
Apparently it's bad whether if people are added or not.

Besides, I found that post funny. Cheesy, but funny. Just like any other
post on official Debian mailing lists.

 AFAIK, tincho is going to be this planet's instance maintainer and he is now
 in holidays (and after this awesome debconf he really deserves it!). So I
 hope we can wait until next week when he is back.

Now this is exactly what I don't get. I thought the whole point was to not
have a single instance maintainer, but a distributed system where we
all could happily live and kiss, and whoever who wanted add/remove/edit
people, like Jörg previously stated, could do it. You do realize that
this is just a whole bag full of bullshit, right? I mean, just to be in
the same page.


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[cha...@db.debian.org: DB Change Request]

2009-01-06 Por tema David Moreno
Enjoy.

- Forwarded message from cha...@db.debian.org -

Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:31:08 +
From: cha...@db.debian.org
To: David Moreno da...@dev.axiombox.com
Reply-To: ad...@db.debian.org
Subject: DB Change Request

Hello David Garza da...@debian.org!

Your request to change your directory information has been processed.
Note that there is a propagation time for many of the entries so please
be patient. Here are the results:

 planeta in a 127.0.0.1
DNS Entry replaced with planeta IN A 127.0.0.1




Please email ad...@db.debian.org if you have any questions.


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Re: Debian planet

2009-01-06 Por tema Joerg Jaspert

 I will be importing planeta's subscribers list into /es soon and
 re-direct URL and feeds, because that's how the people wanted it,
 their way or highway.

 It would be nice if you wait until we can set up some not strict but needed 
 rules about the content we want in planet/es.

Well, I *hope* all the planets can live with about the same set of rules
(with the obvious difference of the used language).

 AFAIK, tincho is going to be this planet's instance maintainer and he is now
 in holidays (and after this awesome debconf he really deserves it!). So I
 hope we can wait until next week when he is back.

Well, technically its us Planet Maintainers. :)

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Re: Debian planet

2009-01-06 Por tema Adeodato Simó
* David Moreno [Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:27:29 -0500]:

 On 20:05 Tue 06 Jan 2009, Ana Guerrero wrote:
  It would be nice if you wait until we can set up some not strict but needed 
  rules about the content we want in planet/es.
  I would like to avoid stuff like Andrés Garcés's latest post titled Una 
  Novia
  en Linux Debian in the future. And I am sure we all will agree on this...

 Well, he asked to be included on this same mailing list:
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-spanish/2008/12/msg00010.html

 And nobody said anything, so I added him, trying to avoid the same
 problems that happened before where I tried to stop someone
 not-to-related to Debian and people cried and flamed about it.
 Apparently it's bad whether if people are added or not.

No, this one time it's not about whether they are more related to
Debian, or less related to Debian: Planets in Debian go by the Don't
annoy people rule, and that post annoyed some people (though maybe not
*that* many people, that's true).

 I thought the whole point was to not
 have a single instance maintainer, but a distributed system where we
 all could happily live and kiss, and whoever who wanted add/remove/edit
 people, like Jörg previously stated, could do it. You do realize that
 this is just a whole bag full of bullshit, right? I mean, just to be in
 the same page.

I don't know what is this stuff about Tincho being the instance
maintainer, and what that entails (resolving disputes?). But the SVN is
certainly open to DDs, so you have the access to add or remove people,
just as in the English planet, AFAIK.

Regarding this access, I think it would help (and I believe it works
very well for the English planet) if people with access only add people
for whom they can somehow vouch for, in the same way you only sponsor
packages for which you can vouch for. A Planet is a valuable resource,
and it's everybody's responsibility to keep it that way.

Surely, by not adding everybody who requests it unless somebody vouches
for them (and adds them themselves) we'll be missing a lot of possibly
interesting content. But our Planets are not, I believe, about content,
but about the people we work with (closely or not). For the rest, we
have http://debian-community.org/planets/es/, which is precisely what it
was created for.

Just my opinion, of course.

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