Re: SVN on Alioth?

2006-09-29 Thread Christian Perrier

> Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] a private mailing list for members of the 
> alioth.debian.org dpkg project?


No. It was meant during the transition from Scott to the band of four
people who agreed to take care of the package when he decided to slow
down his involvment in dpkg development.

It is currently unused and should indeed be removed from any
reference. The package development list is this very list.




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Re: SVN on Alioth?

2006-09-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu September 28 2006 18:14, Russ Allbery wrote:

>> Why would you ever use Alioth's file upload capability for a Debian
>> project as opposed to simply uploading the package to Debian?

> I know nothing about Alioth's file upload capabilities; I was thinking 
> that "released" in this context meant anything placed in the 
> repository, and expected to see the dpkg source tree.

Ah, no, this is a Sourceforge-like thing where you can put up releases
that Alioth serves out.  Not horribly useful for Debian, just a feature of
the underlying software that Alioth is running.

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Re: SVN on Alioth?

2006-09-28 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu September 28 2006 18:14, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Thu September 28 2006 17:08, Guillem Jover wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 14:58:24 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> >>> Why does http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ not show any
> >>> released files,
> >>
> >> Because we upload them to Debian?
> >
> > I don't understand that question.
>
> Why would you ever use Alioth's file upload capability for a Debian
> project as opposed to simply uploading the package to Debian?

I know nothing about Alioth's file upload capabilities; I was thinking 
that "released" in this context meant anything placed in the 
repository, and expected to see the dpkg source tree.

> >> That you'll have to ask the alioth admins. But it's easy to track,
> >> we have several mailing lists and then there's the svn repo
> >> itself.
> >
> > Which mailing lists and how do interested parties subscribe to
> > them?
>
> Well, you're writing to one of them  :)

That much I figured.  :-)

> > How does one access the "SVN repository on Alioth"?
>
> http://svn.debian.org/

Ah, OK.  "SVN repository on Alioth" != alioth.debian.org

> > "Project Home Page" links to the non-existent http://www.dpkg.org
> >
> > "Mailing Lists"  says "0 public mailing lists"
> >
> > the "Anonymous FTP Space" is empty
> >
> > "Latest News" shows "No News Items Found"
> >
> > Generally, http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ looks like a
> > project which died before it ever started.
>
> Or, well, like pretty much every other project on Alioth, since none
> of that stuff except for the mailing lists and every once in a while
> the home page tends to be useful.  Mostly people use Alioth for the
> Subversion access it controls and occasionally for mailing lists.

Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] a private mailing list for members of the 
alioth.debian.org dpkg project?

Thanks.


- Bruce


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Re: SVN on Alioth?

2006-09-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu September 28 2006 17:08, Guillem Jover wrote:
>> On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 14:58:24 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:

>>> Why does http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ not show any
>>> released files,

>> Because we upload them to Debian?

> I don't understand that question.

Why would you ever use Alioth's file upload capability for a Debian
project as opposed to simply uploading the package to Debian?

>> That you'll have to ask the alioth admins. But it's easy to track, we
>> have several mailing lists and then there's the svn repo itself.

> Which mailing lists and how do interested parties subscribe to them?

Well, you're writing to one of them  :)

> How does one access the "SVN repository on Alioth"?

http://svn.debian.org/

> "Project Home Page" links to the non-existent http://www.dpkg.org

> "Mailing Lists"  says "0 public mailing lists"

> the "Anonymous FTP Space" is empty

> "Latest News" shows "No News Items Found"

> Generally, http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ looks like a project 
> which died before it ever started.

Or, well, like pretty much every other project on Alioth, since none of
that stuff except for the mailing lists and every once in a while the home
page tends to be useful.  Mostly people use Alioth for the Subversion
access it controls and occasionally for mailing lists.

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Re: SVN on Alioth?

2006-09-28 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu September 28 2006 17:08, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 14:58:24 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > On Mon September 25 2006 23:51, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > The repository has been moved back to a SVN repository on Alioth,
> > > mostly because most of us felt more comfortable with centralized
> > > development, at least for the time things could get organized.
> >
> > Why does http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ not show any
> > released files,
>
> Because we upload them to Debian?

I don't understand that question.

> > activity
>
> That you'll have to ask the alioth admins. But it's easy to track, we
> have several mailing lists and then there's the svn repo itself.

Which mailing lists and how do interested parties subscribe to them?
How does one access the "SVN repository on Alioth"?

> > etc.?
>
> If you have something else in mind please say it explicitely.

"Project Home Page" links to the non-existent http://www.dpkg.org

"Mailing Lists"  says "0 public mailing lists"

the "Anonymous FTP Space" is empty

"Latest News" shows "No News Items Found"

Generally, http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ looks like a project 
which died before it ever started.


- Bruce


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Re: SVN on Alioth?

2006-09-28 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 14:58:24 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Mon September 25 2006 23:51, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > The repository has been moved back to a SVN repository on Alioth,
> > mostly because most of us felt more comfortable with centralized
> > development, at least for the time things could get organized.
> 
> Why does http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ not show any released
> files,

Because we upload them to Debian?

> activity

That you'll have to ask the alioth admins. But it's easy to track, we
have several mailing lists and then there's the svn repo itself.

> etc.?

If you have something else in mind please say it explicitely.

regards,
guillem


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SVN on Alioth?

2006-09-28 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon September 25 2006 23:51, Christian Perrier wrote:
> The repository has been moved back to a SVN repository on Alioth,
> mostly because most of us felt more comfortable with centralized
> development, at least for the time things could get organized.

Why does http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dpkg/ not show any released 
files, activity, etc.?


- Bruce


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