Bug#281057: Ping!

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Raphael Hertzog writes ("Re: Ping!"):
> Guillem or Ian, can you look at the patches? 

I'll try to take a look at this next weekend.  I've decided that I
want to become much more active wrt dpkg with my personal hat on.

Thanks to Egmont for the detailed investigations.  This should be
straightforward to deal with.

Ian.



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Bug#281057: Ping!

2007-08-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello Egmont,

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Egmont Koblinger wrote:
> During these 2 years no valuable comments arrived from any Debian/Dpkg
> developers. I wonder why... Isn't there anyone caring about this bug? (Is
> there anyone caring about Dpkg at all?) Or you simply lack developer
> resources? (Well, that could be an excuse for an unreproducible bug report
> or a bug report without a patch, but I feel I've done everything anyone
> could have done to locate and fix this bug; all you have to do is verify it
> and then apply the patch.)

We clearly lack developers resources and the number of bugs accumulated on
dpkg is so high, that's it's difficult to keep track of them.

Guillem or Ian, can you look at the patches? 

The first one seems ok and the second one may need some adjustement
depending on the value of "instdir" I guess... I haven't looked in details
the values that it can have. If it's either "empty" or the chroot, then
it's fine, otherwise it might need adjustment.

> If you check the bug archives of Debian, you'll see that I already posted
> several bug reports and patches (well, not very much, maybe a dozen) and
> some of them were successfully applied, making Debian a slightly better
> distro. Unfortunately this is not my first bugreport where I have to wait
> years for anyone to move his fingers. If you continue developing with this
> approach, all you'll reach is that I'm going to fix these bugs for myself
> and not send any feedback at all. It's not worth it for me to spend my time
> explaining the story if noone's listening to me. Is this what you want? I
> hope not...

Please continue sending your patch and bug reports, even if they're not
treated quickly, it's important to have them recorded. Hopefully one day
we'll get more volunteers.

Cheers,
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Bug#281057: PING!!!

2007-08-15 Thread Egmont Koblinger

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Bug#281057: Ping!

2006-11-16 Thread Egmont Koblinger
Ping! ...

It was 2 years ago that I posted this bugreport, including:
 - detailed description of what to do for the bug to occur,
 - detailed explanation where and why the source is buggy,
 - patch to fix the problem.

Just a note I haven't mentioned before: this patch has already survived 2
years of intensive testing, since we're using dpkg with this patch to build
up and upgrade chroot systems where all the packages of a Linux distribution
are being built, and the packages that form these chroot jails are
continuously updated to newer or fixed versions. My estimate is that we've
upgraded the chroot using dpkg with this patch approximately 50.000 times in
these 2 years -- successfully, as opposed to the times when we used an
unpatched dpkg and had serious OOM troubles when upgrading e.g.
kernel-headers inside the chroot after a kernel version bump.

During these 2 years no valuable comments arrived from any Debian/Dpkg
developers. I wonder why... Isn't there anyone caring about this bug? (Is
there anyone caring about Dpkg at all?) Or you simply lack developer
resources? (Well, that could be an excuse for an unreproducible bug report
or a bug report without a patch, but I feel I've done everything anyone
could have done to locate and fix this bug; all you have to do is verify it
and then apply the patch.)

Or what else is happening behind the scenes?

If you check the bug archives of Debian, you'll see that I already posted
several bug reports and patches (well, not very much, maybe a dozen) and
some of them were successfully applied, making Debian a slightly better
distro. Unfortunately this is not my first bugreport where I have to wait
years for anyone to move his fingers. If you continue developing with this
approach, all you'll reach is that I'm going to fix these bugs for myself
and not send any feedback at all. It's not worth it for me to spend my time
explaining the story if noone's listening to me. Is this what you want? I
hope not...



-- 
Egmont



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