Provide extra firmware where debian-installer find it

2010-03-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
I just patched the CD and DVD build system to try to provide the extra
firmware packages in a location where debian-installer (hw-detect) is
able to find them.  The firmware packages are only looked for in / and
/firmware/ on the CD and DVD, while we provided them in
/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/.

I implemented this by creating a script called using the
DISC_FINISH_HOOK provided by debian-cd, and symlink from
../pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/*.deb to /firmware/.

I am unsure if using symlinks work, and a bit unsure if d-i will find
these packages.  I suspect d-i will ask for them even if they are
available, so if you have hardware in need of extra firmware and test
the latest lenny-test netinst CD, do not be surprised if the question
show up even thought the firmware is available.

Please test and let me know if this work?  I lack hardware that need
extra firmware, so I can't test this myself. :(

Happy hacking,
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Where is the content of /etc/bind?

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Schulte

Hello,
i want to set a new CNAME , but there is no file (db.intern) in 
/etc/bind . So where do i've to edit?

bye, Martin


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Re: Provide extra firmware where debian-installer find it

2010-03-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 13. März 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 I just patched the CD and DVD build system to try to provide the extra
 firmware packages in a location where debian-installer (hw-detect) is
 able to find them.  The firmware packages are only looked for in / and
 /firmware/ on the CD and DVD, while we provided them in
 /pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/.

 I implemented this by creating a script called using the
 DISC_FINISH_HOOK provided by debian-cd, and symlink from
 ../pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/*.deb to /firmware/.

Nice.

 I am unsure if using symlinks work, and a bit unsure if d-i will find
 these packages.  I suspect d-i will ask for them even if they are
 available [...]

Are you refering to the question whether to look for the firmware or to accept 
specific licences? The latter I actually see as a requierement :-)


cheers,
Holger


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Debian Edu + Skolelinux: 2 names, 2 distros, 1 project

2010-03-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

some days ago a IMO meaningful distinction and direction for the question in 
subject occured to me...

Currently we struggle with both the problem of having two names for one 
project and with the problem of finding the right balance between freenees 
and usefulness in our release. 

So I had the idea to actually release two distros:

a.) Debian Edu: 100% free, 100% Debian
b.) Skolelinux: Debian Edu plus some non-free stuff schools need 

Both distros would be produced by the same project and released at the same 
time. 

What do you think of the general idea? 

For myself I can say that I would love to work on both distros, as I know 
of/value the importance of having a fully free Debian distro for 
schools/educational bodies (so they can use it as a base for their distro) 
and I know that (probably other) schools want a solution that just works and 
dont care that much about (short term) freenees (ie want firmwares and 
nonfree flash installed by default).


cheers,
Holger


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Re: Where is the content of /etc/bind?

2010-03-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Martin,

On Samstag, 13. März 2010, Martin Schulte wrote:
 i want to set a new CNAME , but there is no file (db.intern) in
 /etc/bind . So where do i've to edit?

lenny uses powerdns, please read the manual :-)


cheers,
Holger



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Re: NIC bonding

2010-03-13 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Am Samstag, 13. März 2010 schrieb Nigel Barker:
 How can I make the dhcp server on ltspserverxx listen on bond0
  instead of eth1?
 
Hi Nigel,

interesting question - this implies you got bonding working?
Did you submit any howtos, yet...?

I wonder why only DHCPd should switch its NIC?
Maby there is a way to
- first rename eth0 to eth2 (or sim.)
- bond0 := eth1+eth2
- then use eth0 as an alias for bond0.

The last step is the hardest (I reckon)

Regards
Ralf


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Re: Provide extra firmware where debian-installer find it

2010-03-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Holger Levsen]
 Are you refering to the question whether to look for the firmware or to 
 accept 
 specific licences? The latter I actually see as a requierement :-)

I am refering to the question whether to look for the firmware.  I do
not change how d-i handle firmware, so I do not affect the other
stuff.

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Processed: notfixed 570775 in 0.842

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CNAME and powerdns

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Schulte

hello,
i'm trying to add a CNAME for tjener (the new name should be ntinstall , 
which should be refer to tjener, for bind it was 'ntinstall CNAME tjener')
After reading something about powerdns i add the following to the 
/etc/ldap/dns_skole.ldif

---
dn: dc=ntinstall,dc=intern,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
objectclass: top
objectclass: dnsdomain
objectclass: domainrelatedobject
dc: ntinstall
cnamerecord: tjener.intern
associateddomain: ntinstall.intern
---

but it doesn't work. I don't know much about ldap and DNS, maybe there 
ist someone how can give me a short advise, how to add a CNAME in powerdns.

Thanks, Martin


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Re: CNAME and powerdns

2010-03-13 Thread Andreas Schockenhoff
Dear Martin,

Am Samstag, den 13.03.2010, 19:56 +0100 schrieb Martin Schulte:
 hello,
 i'm trying to add a CNAME for tjener (the new name should be ntinstall , 
 which should be refer to tjener, for bind it was 'ntinstall CNAME tjener')
 After reading something about powerdns i add the following to the 
 /etc/ldap/dns_skole.ldif
 ---
 dn: dc=ntinstall,dc=intern,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
 objectclass: top
 objectclass: dnsdomain
 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
 dc: ntinstall
 cnamerecord: tjener.intern
 associateddomain: ntinstall.intern
 ---
 
 but it doesn't work. I don't know much about ldap and DNS, maybe there 
 ist someone how can give me a short advise, how to add a CNAME in powerdns.
But this data would only read at install time! 

You must add your entries to the ldap data base. 
Have a look at ldapadd  
Also you can compare your solution with www ... in the ldap data base
because this is a cname for tjener. 
Have a look at ldapsearch. 

bye Andreas



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Content and translation status for the rosegarden manual

2010-03-13 Thread Holger Levsen
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Content and translation status for the debian-edu-lenny manual

2010-03-13 Thread Holger Levsen
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FIXME: Probably (I think its partly described above already) add more info 
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and that you have to add '3' to the kernel argument list in 
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Re: NIC bonding

2010-03-13 Thread Nigel Barker
On 13 March 2010 22:37, RalfGesellensetter r...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am Samstag, 13. März 2010 schrieb Nigel Barker:
 How can I make the dhcp server on ltspserverxx listen on bond0
  instead of eth1?

 Hi Nigel,

 interesting question - this implies you got bonding working?
 Did you submit any howtos, yet...?


If I perform bonding on a running ltspserver, then thin clients
continue to work. However, when I reboot everything, the clients don't
get a dhcp response.

 Maby there is a way to
 - first rename eth0 to eth2 (or sim.)
 - bond0 := eth1+eth2
 - then use eth0 as an alias for bond0.

I did this already, though it is eth1 I am trying to use (for the thin
client network), and I was unsuccessful.
Do you think I should keep trying to do this?
I suppose I am naively thinking that once dhcp works, all the rest
will follow. It probably won't right?

Anyway I will try the file Petter has indicated on Monday and report back.

cheers
nigel


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Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

In the Debian Edu project, we generate our own CDs with adjustment to
the installer and provided packages.  We have also included some
non-free firmware deb packages in the naive hope that d-i would use
them when needed.  This has proven to not work, as d-i do not look for
firmware packages in the APT repository on the CD.

Yesterday, I figured out a workaround for this, and I wanted to share
the solution with the rest of you, and ask if perhaps the default
behaviour of debian-cd or d-i (hw-detect) should change to make this
workaround unneeded.

The d-i package hw-detect look for firmware packages in / and
/firmware/ on the CD and USB stick available during installation,
while debian-cd build CDs with packages under /pool/.  To get d-i to
find the provided firmware packages, I wrote a script to create
/firmware/ on the CD and populate it with symlinks to the packages in
/pool/.

To enable it, set DISC_FINISH_HOOK in CONF.sh to point to a script
looking like this:

  #!/bin/sh
  #
  # Debian installer (hw-detect) do not look in pool/ for firmware packages.
  # It only look in / and /firmware/ on the CDs and USB sticks.  Adjust
  # the CD and DVD to also provide the firmware packages in a location
  # checked by hw-detect.
  set -e
  CDDIR=$4
  mkdir $CDDIR/firmware
  cd $CDDIR/firmware
  ln -s ../pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/*.deb .

Should this be the default behaviour of debian-cd, or should hw-detect
be changed to look for firmware packages where debian-cd put them when
firmware debs is in the package list?

CC to debian-edu, to keep us in the loop.

Happy hacking,
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