date:20101106

Hi,

On Mittwoch, 3. November 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 I think we should evaluate the cost and benefits of doing this, and
 make a decision based on that knowledge.  

Right. I thought the benefits were obvious, just like you probably did, when 
you changed the profile question yesterday, to display the expert options by 
default. _That_ is a change everybody will notice and will put cognitive 
strain on everybody, as there are now more options...

I havent seen the evalutation for that.

And if the evaluation of this is happening right now, I wonder why we dont do 
the same for the DVD split: just do it and then see how it works out.

 What problems and advantages 
 for the users, administrators, distributors and developers do you see
 for the current approach and a splitted approach.  Perhaps something
 for a wiki page to gather the arguments for and against?

combined approach:
- useful for people installing both amd64+i386 edu machines
- less packages on the DVD, thus different installs for DVD+CD for everyone
- CD space issues, thus we install a kernel by default, which can only deal 
with a single core and 1GiB RAM maximum.

splitted DVDs
- less useful for people installing amd64, which according to 
popcon.skolelinux.org are 5% of our users
- more packages on the DVD, probably the same installation whether DVD or CD 
based
- 686 kernel on the DVD, supporting multiple CPU cores and more then 1 GiB RAM
- amd64 DVD still exists, it's just an extra download for those few who need 
it. 5% of our users suffer a bit, for 95% having real benefits.

To me it is+was obvious that the benefits outweight the costs.

Plus: AMD64 is a great architecture, but I fear that in real world school 
scenarios i386 is most often installed instead+exclusivly, because it makes 
using certain very common nonfree tools much easier: adobe flash, googleearth 
and icaclient are all only available for i386. So every school I know just 
ignores amd64 and uses i386. Having a fully contained i386 DVD would be the 
most useful for those.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: dvd space issues

Hi Louis-Maurice,

let me just reply to these three aspects of your mail:

On Mittwoch, 3. November 2010, Louis-Maurice De Sousa wrote:
 I see three important things to increase quality and user experience
 as they say in privative world ;-) :
   - choose de default window manager. It could be then possible to have
 only some software installed. For example, gedit if you choose Gnome,
 and Kate if it's KDE. Same for the media player, browser...

this is possible already today in Lenny (and will continue to work in 
Squeeze): you can install with Gnome instead of KDE. Squeeze also supports 
LXDE.

This is described in:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/Installation#Theinstallationprocess

 A WM based on Qimo (http://www.qimo4kids.com/) could be interesting for
 younger pupils.

Qimo needs to be packaged for Debian first :)

   - choose IP addresses of the server. It's mandatory for us in
 académie de Versailles to use DebianEdu, I have actually to install an
 other router.

I'll file a bug about this, so that we wont forget for Squeeze+1 :)

   - enhance ldap, to manage groups of users and machines. We actually
 use this

 http://wwdeb.crdp.ac-caen.fr/mediase3/index.php/L%27annuaire_LDAP#G.C3.A9n.
C3.A9ralit.C3.A9s

very interesting! I'll leave that to the people more into LDAP to look into 
this! 


cheers,
Holger


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Bug#602591: allow to choose different IP settings

package: debian-edu-install
severity: wishlist

On Mittwoch, 3. November 2010, Louis-Maurice De Sousa wrote:
   - choose IP addresses of the server. It's mandatory for us in
 académie de Versailles to use DebianEdu, I have actually to install an
 other router.

It would be great if one could be (optionaly) prompted to enter a different IP 
address for the network, gateway and tjener (and thus all machines). 

Several organisations use different network settings and need to change our 
settings, making the installation harder than it should be. Having a router 
and a network is very common today, but it's quite uncommon for them to be 
set to 10.0.2.1 and 10.0.2.0/23 like our settings requiere.

IMO the best would be an extra kernel commandline parameter to trigger a set 
of debconf questions.

Something for wheezy, /me thinks :)


cheers,
HOlger


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Bug#588510: #588510: rename thin-client-server profile

Hi debian-l10n-english people :)

I've got an english wording question, where you maybe can help Debian Edu to 
find a good choice.

In the past, Debian Edu offered four types of profiles to install: 
main-server, thin-client-server, workstation and standalone. The world was 
easy and the world was good.

(These profiles and their names are shown during installation and used 
throughout our manual, so they are quite visible.)

And then the world became better and we got a problem: the former 
thin-client-server was suddenly also able to serve (diskless) workstations, 
as the underlying technology, LTSP (Linux Terminal Server Project), grew to 
support that.

(In case you dont know: a thin-client is a machine running a local X server, 
with its root filesystem mounted from the thin-client-server and all the apps 
running on the thin-client server. The thin-client is merely a display so to 
say. OTOH a diskless workstation also mounts its file system from the LTSP 
server, but all apps run locally on the workstation.)

So we want to rename the thin-client-server profile, to make it obvious that 
not only thin-clients are supported, but also diskless workstations (and also 
other types, like localapps-thin-clients, where only some apps run 
locally...)

So we need a new name. ltsp-server is not a good one, because the technology 
used could change again tomorrow. (In fact, since a few days these servers 
_also_ allow access via remote desktop, a totally different technology.)

So, my current proposals for a new name are:

- GUI server
- desktop server
- console server

Other, better suggestions? 


cheers  thanks for your time,
Holger


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Re: dvd space issues

[Holger Levsen]
 Right. I thought the benefits were obvious, just like you probably
 did, when you changed the profile question yesterday, to display the
 expert options by default. _That_ is a change everybody will notice
 and will put cognitive strain on everybody, as there are now more
 options...

Nope, the benefits of adding an extra option to the profile question
are not obvious to me, but the effort involved in undoing the change
is negligible, and no other parts in Debian Edu is affected.  Because
of this, I decided to give it a go, to get some feedback.  I suspect
it will be undone before Squeeze, unless the benefits are obvious to
more than just me.  It is a three line change in the
debian-edu-profile shell script.

 I havent seen the evalutation for that.

I wrote my evaluation to you on IRC when we discussed such change
earlier.  You even replied to it, so I thought you had seen it.

For the rest of you, here are my pros and cons:

 - Adding more options to the profile question increases the
   congnitive strain of people installing Debian Edu, and increases
   the chance of selecting the wrong option.

 - Adding the minimal profile option to the default profile question
   make it more visible, and allow more people to be aware of the
   alternative and probably use it where it make sense instead of
   installing Debian because they are not aware of the Minimal option.

 - Changing profile question affect documentation writing, which have
   not started yet.

I am not sure if the increased visibility outweights the increased
cognitive strain.

 And if the evaluation of this is happening right now, I wonder why
 we dont do the same for the DVD split: just do it and then see how
 it works out.

The DVD split is sligtly more work to undo (more editing of the build
system - probably have to edit 5-10 files), and affect a lot of
different parts of Debian Edu.  The package profiles and the
installation set are both affected if we split the DVD and start using
the extra space, and undoing such change will be very hard.  Providing
more images affect the DVD distributors (Jim and others) and the
sysadmins in schools that need to figure out which DVD they should use
when they want to install Debian Edu.  Because the impact is high and
reversing the change is hard, I believe we should be more careful with
a DVD split than a change in the default template to show during
installation.

 combined approach:
 - useful for people installing both amd64+i386 edu machines
 - less packages on the DVD, thus different installs for DVD+CD for everyone
 - CD space issues, thus we install a kernel by default, which can only deal 
   with a single core and 1GiB RAM maximum.

Also:

 - Easy for distributors, only one DVD image to ship.  No need to
   ask people what architecture they need, nor any change to send the
   wrong image.  Half the production cost for a complete set of DVDs
   (as there is only one).

 - Easy for sysadmins, who only need one DVD, and do not need to keep
   track of several DVDs, one for each arch.

 - Less to archive in the project than with two DVDs per release, so
   we save some disk space on the archive disk.

 - Allow us to install i386 LTSP environment on amd64 servers.
   Changing this require code changes to debian-edu-config, or keeping
   i386 on the amd64 DVD.

 splitted DVDs
 - less useful for people installing amd64, which according to 
   popcon.skolelinux.org are 5% of our users

Is this because the amd64 servers installed from dVD would have to get
amd64 LTSP chroots, or something else?  Ie why is it less useful?

 - 686 kernel on the DVD, supporting multiple CPU cores and more then
   1 GiB RAM

This is only a benefit if we fail to drop packages we do not really
want to install by default.  If for example blender is removed, (or
LTSP is changed to install i686 kernel), we can get the same advantage with the 
combined approach.

 - amd64 DVD still exists, it's just an extra download for those few
   who need it. 5% of our users suffer a bit, for 95% having real
   benefits.

What do you mean?  Why would amd64 users need an extra download?  I
would expect amd64 users download one DVD and i386 users download
another DVD, and thus no extra download for any of them.

 To me it is+was obvious that the benefits outweight the costs.

Did you take into account the logistical advantages of a combined DVD
that were missing in your list?

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Re: dvd space issues

[Louis-Maurice De Sousa]
 To raise the quality of the project we need to be brave enough to
 actually select the packages we believe in and drop the others,
 
 I really don't understand this point of view. Just like Steve Jobs :
 We know, what you need

If you fail to understand the difference between the filtering and
quality service provided by Debian Edu and a news paper, picking the
best and most interesting to save customers and users from having to
do this themselves, and the blocking service provided by Apple and
China, where access to non-approved things are blocked from the view
of their customers and citizens, I have no idea how to illuminate your
mind.

 That's information. It can be found in several sites. We have
 several in France :

Good to know. :)

 And teachers are not stupid and/or alone. They have there own social
 networks to know what to use.

Teachers are on the other hand constrained on time, and that is why we
need to do the filtering and provide quality packages out of the box
for teachers and schools to use.

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Re: dvd space issues

2010-11-06 Thread Louis-Maurice De Sousa

Le 06/11/2010 11:02, Holger Levsen a écrit :

Hi Louis-Maurice,

let me just reply to these three aspects of your mail:

On Mittwoch, 3. November 2010, Louis-Maurice De Sousa wrote:

I see three important things to increase quality and user experience
as they say in privative world ;-) :
- choose de default window manager. It could be then possible to have
only some software installed. For example, gedit if you choose Gnome,
and Kate if it's KDE. Same for the media player, browser...

this is possible already today in Lenny (and will continue to work in
Squeeze): you can install with Gnome instead of KDE. Squeeze also supports
LXDE.

This is described in:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/Installation#Theinstallationprocess

Ok, I saw I could install it but not that there was a kernel parameter
for the default WM.
I don't like too much when Gnome is windowsed with that start-like
button in bottom of screen. I quite don't understand why it's default
behaviour is changed. KDE and LXDE already are like that.

But it's a taste issue :-)

I didn't saw there already had a Squeeze install DVD. I'll try it next
week. :-)

Thanks for the link.

A WM based on Qimo (http://www.qimo4kids.com/) could be interesting for
younger pupils.

Qimo needs to be packaged for Debian first :)

Yes, I know. It isn't even packedged for Ubuntu. If I can save some
time, I'll try to do it for my wife wich teaches in the nursery school
(a french peculiarity called maternelle).

- choose IP addresses of the server. It's mandatory for us in
académie de Versailles to use DebianEdu, I have actually to install an
other router.

I'll file a bug about this, so that we wont forget for Squeeze+1 :)

Ok, thanks. But Squeeze+1 is in a long time. :-) And time is not our
ally to beat Microsoft© and Apple©. ;-)
To install DebianEdu in a school, I must be able to change the server
public IP. I mean the 10.0.2.2 IP. Is there a manual method ? I found
one once, but can't put an hand on it now.

- enhance ldap, to manage groups of users and machines. We actually
use this

http://wwdeb.crdp.ac-caen.fr/mediase3/index.php/L%27annuaire_LDAP#G.C3.A9n.
C3.A9ralit.C3.A9s

very interesting! I'll leave that to the people more into LDAP to look into
this!

Great.
With this organization, teachers only see there classes and pupils, and
pupils only there classes, in the samba shares. Teachers can distribute
work in there pupils home. Sofware can be diferently installed on
computers depending on the classrooms...
Some functionnalities exist to compensate Windows failures so they can
be managed differently and more easily in DebianEdu.

Louis-Maurice De Sousa

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Bug#588510: #588510: rename thin-client-server profile

2010-11-06 Thread Justin B Rye

Holger Levsen wrote:
[...]
 So we need a new name. ltsp-server is not a good one, because the technology 
 used could change again tomorrow. (In fact, since a few days these servers 
 _also_ allow access via remote desktop, a totally different technology.)
 
 So, my current proposals for a new name are:
 
 - GUI server
 - desktop server
 - console server

In reverse order:
 - I would rule out console server just because console is so
ambiguous (anything from text-only to Wii);
 - desktop server is good -  I suppose desktop also has the
interpretation pizza-box form-factor, but it should be
obvious that this couldn't be an installer option;
 - and while obviously you can't call it X server, GUI server is
good too.

I suppose the difference between GUI and desktop is that the GUI
is just a software layer, while the desktop metaphor invites you to
think of it as the place where your files are stored; that ambiguity
seems appropriate here.

 Other, better suggestions? 

I've got some other, mostly worse suggestions:

 - fat-server (too late for that one);
 - login-server (no, the main-server does all the authentication);
 - central-server (as a coverterm for centralised processing/storage,
but this risks sounding more main than the main-server);
 - cluster-server (the whole thing being an LTSP cluster);
 - terminal-server (from the expansion of LTSP).

LTSP is another of those L- initialisms where the package also
installs perfectly happily on Debian GNU/kFreeBSD!
-- 
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sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package



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Re: dvd space issues

2010-11-06 Thread Louis-Maurice De Sousa




Le 06/11/2010 12:30, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :

[Louis-Maurice De Sousa]

To raise the quality of the project we need to be brave enough to
actually select the packages we believe in and drop the others,


I really don't understand this point of view. Just like Steve Jobs :
We know, what you need


If you fail to understand the difference between the filtering and
quality service provided by Debian Edu and a news paper, picking the
best and most interesting to save customers and users from having to
do this themselves,


That is quite different than filling a DVD where major part of the 
sofware is useless for each user. Globally it's usefull but the use is 
particular, not global.
In french secondary schools, we can even have different software per 
classroom.
How can a school be interested at the same time in Blender *and* 
GCompris ? TuxPaint *and* The Gimp ?



and the blocking service provided by Apple and
China,


Well, it seems to me, I never wrote about that particular point.


where access to non-approved things are blocked from the view
of their customers and citizens, I have no idea how to illuminate your
mind.


:-)


That's information. It can be found in several sites. We have
several in France :


Good to know. :)


And teachers are not stupid and/or alone. They have there own social
networks to know what to use.


Teachers are on the other hand constrained on time,


We must have very different lives.
Many teachers in France use time to search ressources on the Internet or 
on libraries.
It's a point I find really interesting in this project. Exchanging views 
on how education works in different countries. Making DebianEdu fiting 
every one is a great exiting challenge. :-)



and that is why we
need to do the filtering


Since Hadopi, filtering became a rude word, for me in France :-)


and provide quality packages out of the box
for teachers and schools to use.


Perhaps could you illuminate my mind in why you mix providing quality 
packages and filling an installation DVD. :-)
It seems to me the interest of DebianEdu is far away from just providing 
a huge amount of sofware on installation.


But my broken english can be responsible for part of our 
misunderstanding. :-)


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Bug#588510: #588510: rename thin-client-server profile

2010-11-06 Thread Kåre Nordby




So we need a new name. ltsp-server is not a good one, because the technology
used could change again tomorrow. (In fact, since a few days these servers
_also_ allow access via remote desktop, a totally different technology.)

So, my current proposals for a new name are:

- GUI server
- desktop server
- console server

Other, better suggestions?
   
As a non-technical with a more sales- and marketing background I will 
suggest :


Desktop server
(providing different installation options)

and then we have the :

Network server
(providing different network services)

(But then you could say that the Desktop server also provides network 
services..)


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apt-get upgrade 32-bit workstation to 64-bit?

2010-11-06 Thread RalfGesellensetter

Dear list,

on a brand new 64-bit machine, I started with a Debian Edu Lenny workstation
image (no LVM of course), that contains some manual tweaks like java 
installations.

Hence, and because the install deadline is straight ahead, I dare not
start from scratch with a 64-bit installation. But I consider an apt-get upgrade
to 64 bit, if this is possible. 

To do so, I had to change the arch settings, somewhere?

Our CPU is some Athlon X2 64bit with 3.2 GB RAM. Is it worth to upgrade
at least the kernel to 64 bit or even the whole system?

Thanks for any enlightment,
regards
Ralf


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Re: apt-get upgrade 32-bit workstation to 64-bit?

2010-11-06 Thread RalfGesellensetter

Sorry for the noise, I found

http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/

and this page tells us very explicitly what a bad idea this was.

Regards
Ralf

Am Samstag, 6. November 2010 schrieben Sie:
 Dear list,
 
 on a brand new 64-bit machine, I started with a Debian Edu Lenny workstation
 image (no LVM of course), that contains some manual tweaks like java 
 installations.
 
 Hence, and because the install deadline is straight ahead, I dare not
 start from scratch with a 64-bit installation. But I consider an apt-get 
 upgrade
 to 64 bit, if this is possible. 
 
 To do so, I had to change the arch settings, somewhere?
 
 Our CPU is some Athlon X2 64bit with 3.2 GB RAM. Is it worth to upgrade
 at least the kernel to 64 bit or even the whole system?
 
 Thanks for any enlightment,
 regards
 Ralf
 


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Bug#602621: drop start-wlan initscript

package: debian-edu-config

Hi,

debian-edu-config ships a start-wlan initscript, which is disabled by default 
and which has seen its last real development in 2005. In 2010 things have 
advanced considerably and this script is probably used no-where.

Filing a bug to give people time+opportunity to respond and me not to forget 
about the issue :)


cheers,
Holger


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Bug#602622: drop report-reboot init script

package: debian-edu-config

debian-edu-config ships a init script, which is disabled by default and just 
informs someone via mail, that the machine has been rebooted and which the 
last 5 users have been. apt-get install logcheck also does this (and much 
more) so I consider this script pretty useless. (And harmfull as it slows 
down boot, needs to be maintained and confuses people when looking at the 
initscripts (eg to fix bugs in them)...)

Filing a bug to give people time+opportunity to respond and me not to forget 
about the issue :)


cheers,
Holger


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Bug#579290: which initscript / still useful to fix?

tags 579290 + unreproducable moreinfo
thanks

Hi Petter :-)

I've been reading the 6 init scripts the debian-edu-config package is shipping 
(debian-edu-config.enable-nat debian-edu-config.fetch-ldap-cert 
debian-edu-config.open-backdoor debian-edu-config.report-reboot 
debian-edu-config.start-wlan debian-edu-config.update-hostname) and could not 
identify output send by echo directly by a default install, only the 
open-backdoor and report-reboot scripts have such outputs. 

Did you mean those two scripts? The others only use echo to explain their 
usage. And personally I think both these scripts shouldnt be used - and 
usplash has been removed also, so maybe just close this bug?


cheers,
Holger


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Re: apt-get upgrade 32-bit workstation to 64-bit?

HI Ralf,

On Samstag, 6. November 2010, RalfGesellensetter wrote:
 on a brand new 64-bit machine, I started with a Debian Edu Lenny
 workstation image (no LVM of course), that contains some manual tweaks like
 java installations.

 Hence, and because the install deadline is straight ahead, I dare not
 start from scratch with a 64-bit installation. But I consider an apt-get
 upgrade to 64 bit, if this is possible.

why do you consider this?

 To do so, I had to change the arch settings, somewhere?

 Our CPU is some Athlon X2 64bit with 3.2 GB RAM. Is it worth to upgrade
 at least the kernel to 64 bit or even the whole system?

you can just install an amd64 kernel on i386 userland: apt-get install 
linux-image-2.6-amd64. done.


cheers,
Holger


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Bug#579290: which initscript / still useful to fix?

[Holger Levsen]
 Did you mean those two scripts? The others only use echo to explain
 their usage. And personally I think both these scripts shouldnt be
 used - and usplash has been removed also, so maybe just close this
 bug?

When I wrote this bug, most script did not use the lsb_* functions.
I've updated a few over the years, but not checked how many were left.
If only two are left, great!  The open-backdoor script is still used
as far as I know, to administrate schools locked behind a firewall.
The report-reboot script is used some places, but its task might work
better as a Nagios plugin. :)

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education-networked_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb
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education-standalone_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb
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education-main-server_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb - extra local/misc
education-mathematics_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb - extra local/misc
education-menus_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb - extra local/misc
education-misc_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb - extra local/misc
education-music_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb - extra local/misc
education-networked_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb - extra local/misc
education-physics_0.851~svn70864_powerpc.deb - extra local/misc

Bug#585712: marked as done (depends on lsof, which is not available on kfreebsd-*)

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and subject line Bug#585712: fixed in debian-edu-config 1.444
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User: debian-...@lists.debian.org
Usertags: kfreebsd

Hi,

debian-edu-config depends on lsof, which is not available on kfreebsd-*, which 
is a release architecture.


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Source: debian-edu-config
Source-Version: 1.444

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debian-edu-config, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

debian-edu-config_1.444.dsc
  to main/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.444.dsc
debian-edu-config_1.444.tar.gz
  to main/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.444.tar.gz
debian-edu-config_1.444_all.deb
  to main/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.444_all.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 585...@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Holger Levsen hol...@debian.org (supplier of updated debian-edu-config 
package)

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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:58:58 +0100
Source: debian-edu-config
Binary: debian-edu-config
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.444
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers debian-edu@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Holger Levsen hol...@debian.org
Description: 
 debian-edu-config - Configuration files for Skolelinux systems
Closes: 585712 602084
Changes: 
 debian-edu-config (1.444) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Turn dependency on lsof into a recommends. lsof is only used by
 two optional tools related to LTSP services, while debian-edu-config
 has many other uses. (Closes: #585712)
   * Stop deploying a copy of /etc/ldap/schema/autofs.schema which belongs to
 the autofs-ldap package. Depend on autofs-ldap instead. (Closes: #602084)
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Bug#602084: marked as done (autofs-ldap and debian-edu-config: error when trying to install together)

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has caused the Debian Bug report #602084,
regarding autofs-ldap and debian-edu-config: error when trying to install 
together
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---BeginMessage---
Package: debian-edu-config,autofs-ldap
Version: debian-edu-config/1.443
Version: autofs-ldap/4.1.4+debian-3
Severity: serious
User: trei...@debian.org
Usertags: edos-file-overwrite

Date: 2010-11-01
Architecture: amd64
Distribution: sid

Hi,

automatic installation tests of packages that share a file and at the
same time do not conflict by their package dependency relationships has
detected the following problem:


WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  isc-dhcp-common isc-dhcp-client libcap2 libgeoip1 libxml2 libisc60 libdns66
  libisccc60 libisccfg60 libbind9-60 liblwres60 bind9-host host libpcre3 lsof
  patch ucf cfengine2 libgmp3c2 libmpfr4 cpp-4.4 cpp libdbus-1-3 dbus libxau6
  libxdmcp6 libxcb1 libx11-data libx11-6 dbus-x11 debconf-utils libglib2.0-0
  libdbus-glib-1-2 libidl0 liborbit2 gconf2-common libgconf2-4 psmisc gconf2
  libconfig-inifiles-perl debian-edu-artwork defoma desktop-profiles
  discover-data libdiscover2 discover libfreetype6 ttf-dejavu-core
  fontconfig-config libfontconfig1 fontconfig fping ldap-utils libatk1.0-0
  libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-client3 libgfortran3
  libblas3gf libpixman-1-0 libpng12-0 libxcb-render0 libxcb-render-util0
  libxrender1 libcairo2 libconvert-asn1-perl libcups2 libdatrie1
  libdigest-sha1-perl libdigest-hmac-perl libemail-address-perl
  libtimedate-perl libmailtools-perl libnet-ip-perl libnet-dns-perl
  libnet-domain-tld-perl libemail-valid-perl libemail-find-perl
  libexporter-lite-perl libfilesys-df-perl libgtk2.0-common libjpeg62
  libjasper1 libpango1.0-common libthai-data libthai0 libxft2 libpango1.0-0
  libtiff4 libxext6 libxfixes3 libxcomposite1 libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxi6
  libxinerama1 libxrandr2 shared-mime-info libgtk2.0-0 liburi-perl
  libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-parser-perl libregexp-common-perl
  libhtml-fromtext-perl libhtml-tree-perl libnet-ssleay-perl
  libio-socket-ssl-perl libnspr4-0d libmozjs2d libjavascript-perl liblapack3gf
  libwww-perl libnet-ldap-perl libnet-netmask-perl libnotify1
  libterm-readkey-perl libtext-unaccent-perl ng-utils python-cairo libffi5
  python-gobject python-numpy python-gtk2 python-notify ssl-cert tftp autofs
  autofs-ldap dhcp3-client education-tasks debian-edu-config

Extracting templates from packages: 22%
Extracting templates from packages: 45%
Extracting templates from packages: 68%
Extracting templates from packages: 91%
Extracting templates from packages: 100%
Preconfiguring packages ...
Authentication warning overridden.
Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
Selecting previously deselected package isc-dhcp-common.
(Reading database ... 12267 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking isc-dhcp-common (from .../isc-dhcp-common_4.1.1-P1-11_amd64.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package dhcp3-common ...
Selecting previously deselected package isc-dhcp-client.
Unpacking isc-dhcp-client (from .../isc-dhcp-client_4.1.1-P1-11_amd64.deb) ...
Replacing files in old package dhcp3-client ...
Selecting previously deselected package libcap2.
Unpacking libcap2 (from .../libcap2_1%3a2.19-3_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libgeoip1.
Unpacking libgeoip1 (from .../libgeoip1_1.4.7~beta6+dfsg-1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libxml2.
Unpacking libxml2 (from .../libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libisc60.
Unpacking libisc60 (from .../libisc60_1%3a9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libdns66.
Unpacking libdns66 (from .../libdns66_1%3a9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libisccc60.
Unpacking libisccc60 (from .../libisccc60_1%3a9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libisccfg60.
Unpacking libisccfg60 (from .../libisccfg60_1%3a9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libbind9-60.
Unpacking libbind9-60 (from .../libbind9-60_1%3a9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package liblwres60.
Unpacking liblwres60 (from

debian-edu-config_1.444_i386.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2010-11-06 Thread Debian FTP Masters




Accepted:
debian-edu-config_1.444.dsc
  to main/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.444.dsc
debian-edu-config_1.444.tar.gz
  to main/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.444.tar.gz
debian-edu-config_1.444_all.deb
  to main/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.444_all.deb


Override entries for your package:
debian-edu-config_1.444.dsc - source misc
debian-edu-config_1.444_all.deb - extra misc

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Closing bugs: 585712 602084 


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Re: should we really avoid the 686 kernel image?

[Vagrant Cascadian]
 this isn't exactly true... we have to have a -486 kernel to get LTSP
 working with the *defaults*. debian-edu could easily configure LTSP
 to use a -686 kernel; it would be merely one more divergence from
 the LTSP defaults.

Right.  Good point.  I gave this a try, adding a LTSP override in
d-e-config and changed the avoid entry debian-edu/tasks/common from
686 to 486.

I look forward to see if it work.  Should show up on the DVD in a few
minutes.  If it does not, hopefully we can find the cause and fix it.
If not, it is easy to undo.

I also changed blender and wxmaxima from depends and recommends to
esuggests in the tasks, to save some space on the DVD.  This made
enough room for the Gnome dependencies, but we are still lacking the
LXDE and the language specific packages, and probably some others as
well.

I also suggest to change kicad to suggest to not install it by
default, to avoid pulling in extra-xdg-menus and avoid the Hamradio
and Electronics toplevel KDE menus and get the KDE menus to try to fit
the KDE menu list in the default size of the K menu window.  The
change is commited in svn but not yet uploaded.

Happy hacking,
-- 
Petter Reinholdtsen


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Accepted:
debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915.dsc
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915.dsc
debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915.tar.gz
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915.tar.gz
debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915_all.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915_all.deb


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debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915.dsc - extra local/misc
debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70915_all.deb - extra local/misc

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Accepted:
debian-edu-install-udeb_1.519~svn70930_all.udeb
  to 
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debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930.dsc
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-install/debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930.dsc
debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930.tar.gz
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-install/debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930.tar.gz
debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930_all.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-install/debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930_all.deb
debian-edu-profile-udeb_1.519~svn70930_all.udeb
  to 
pool/local/d/debian-edu-install/debian-edu-profile-udeb_1.519~svn70930_all.udeb


Override entries for your package:
debian-edu-install-udeb_1.519~svn70930_all.udeb - optional 
local/debian-installer
debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930.dsc - extra local/misc
debian-edu-install_1.519~svn70930_all.deb - extra local/misc
debian-edu-profile-udeb_1.519~svn70930_all.udeb - optional 
local/debian-installer

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debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70954.tar.gz
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70954.tar.gz
debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70954_all.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu-config/debian-edu-config_1.445~svn70954_all.deb


Override entries for your package:
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Content and translation status for the debian-edu-lenny manual

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http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/

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debian-edu-lenny-manual.de.po: 1144 translated messages, 10 fuzzy translations,
7 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-lenny-manual.es.po: 232 translated messages, 226 fuzzy translations,
703 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-lenny-manual.fr.po: 413 translated messages, 338 fuzzy translations,
410 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-lenny-manual.it.po: 1157 translated messages, 4 fuzzy translations.
debian-edu-lenny-manual.nb.po: 956 translated messages, 171 fuzzy translations,
34 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-lenny-manual.zh.po: 62 translated messages, 57 fuzzy translations,
1042 untranslated messages.
--
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny//GettingStarted
FIXME: explain what to do when printconf does not accomplish anything.
--
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny//Maintainance
FIXME: Explain how to use kde-update-notifier, best with screenshots.
FIXME: continue description of slbackup-php usage, maybe with screenshots
--
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny//HowTo/Administration
FIXME: paragraph about access from outside need to be completed and tested.
FIXME: this is so generic its almost useless
FIXME: Compare with ulink
url='http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients#'DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny/HowTo/NetworkClients/ulink
and get rid of redundant information.
--
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny//HowTo/Desktop
FIXME: this is broken and a bug should be filed: kiosktool upgrades restore
default desktop icons
--
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Lenny//HowTo/NetworkClients
FIXME: This need to be changed as DHCP configuration is in LDAP.
FIXME: should user groups in windows better be explained with lwat first, and
then with an example for the command line?
FIXME explain how to use profiles from global policies for windows machines in
the skolelinux network
FIXME: describe roaming profile key for the global policy editor here
--
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FIXME: explain how to install and use italc - ulink
url='http://bugs.debian.org/511387'511387/ulink explains this quite well
actually.
FIXME: explain how to install and use squidguard and/or dansguardian

13 FIXMEs left to fix

Content and translation status for the rosegarden manual

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