Re: Mailing List

2022-07-02 Thread Mike Gabriel

On  Sa 02 Jul 2022 22:54:33 CEST, Douglas. Osborn wrote:


I would like to subscribe to the SkoleLinux English mailing list, but I
didn't find a signup link.   Can you send me a link to the signup site?

Thanks for your help,
Doug Osborn


Here you go:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/

Greets,
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Mailing List

2022-07-02 Thread Douglas. Osborn
I would like to subscribe to the SkoleLinux English mailing list, but I
didn't find a signup link.   Can you send me a link to the signup site?

Thanks for your help,
Doug Osborn


Re: How to get downloadable version of this mailing list?

2018-03-27 Thread Roman Meier
Hi Nik,

That's great To have the past 3 years should be perfect since
DebianEdu is changing a lot.

I don't know about the file size. Maybe you have to make it available as
download. Anyway you can try to email it to me.

Kind regards,
Roman

> Since I got all mailinglists separately in mailboxes myself, I can send
> you
> archives at least of the last two or three years as mbox, if you want ;)



Re: How to get downloadable version of this mailing list?

2018-03-27 Thread Roman Meier
Thanks, Nik

That’s too bad, but I do understand the reasons...

Kind regards,
Roman

> Hi,
>
>> My internet connection is rather unstable and slow sometimes.
>>
>> Is there a way I can download the monthly archive files e.g. as mbox
>> file
>> to be able to search offline?
>
> sadly not, since some people refused to have their public e-mail published
> in 2011:
> https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/soc-coordination/2011-August/001076.html
>
> -nik
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Re: How to get downloadable version of this mailing list?

2018-03-27 Thread Dominik George
Hi,

> My internet connection is rather unstable and slow sometimes.
> 
> Is there a way I can download the monthly archive files e.g. as mbox file
> to be able to search offline?

sadly not, since some people refused to have their public e-mail published
in 2011:
https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/soc-coordination/2011-August/001076.html

-nik

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How to get downloadable version of this mailing list?

2018-03-27 Thread Roman Meier
Hi folks,

My internet connection is rather unstable and slow sometimes.

Is there a way I can download the monthly archive files e.g. as mbox file
to be able to search offline?

Kind regards,
Roman



Status ping for debian-edu-german mailing list status

2014-07-05 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Alexander,

may I ping the status of the list creation of debian-edu-german@l.d.o?

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Bug#734203: Mailing list for German Debian Edu group

2014-01-04 Thread Mike Gabriel

Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-Cc: u...@skolelinux.de, debian-edu@lists.debian.org

Dear Debian list admins,

please set up a mailing list for the German Debian Edu group.

Name:

debian-edu-ger...@lists.debian.org

Reason:

We would like to migrate our German main mailing list  
(u...@skolelinux.de) away from an old dedicated server to the Debian  
mailing list server. The German Skolelinux / Debian Edu group works on  
making free software in Education more popular and known and also  
promotes the Debian Edu blend aka Skolelinux on German Linux events.


Short description:

German Debian Edu mailing list

Long description:

German mailing list for Debian in the educational field. German  
speakers can find support around educational software and the  
Skolelinux system on this list.


Subscription Policy:

Closed.
Who may get subscribed: everyone
Approval of subscription requests: Mike Gabriel sunwea...@debian.org

The closed subscription policy aims at reducing SPAM on the mailing list.

Post Policy:

Open. (Everyone who is subscribed shall be allowed to post)

Web Archive:

Yes.

Thanks a lot,
Mike Gabriel
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Debian Edu packaging team mailing list (Re: Re: Open Sankoré Free Interactive Whiteboard Software packaged for Debian Squeeze)

2012-05-17 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi D-E-Alioth-Admins,

On Do 17 Mai 2012 21:32:42 CEST Miriam Ruiz wrote:


2012/5/17 José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez jredr...@debian.org:

Hi Miry,
you can count with me too if you setup a collaborative mainteinance team.


Cool! Thanks! :)



We now soon really need the mailing list  
pkg-edu-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org.


Can anyone please...
Mike

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesnt accept mails Re: Request to mailing list Feedback rejected

2007-07-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sunday 15 July 2007 04:07, Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
  has been rejected by the list moderator.  The moderator gave the
  following reason for rejecting your request:
  Posting to this list is restricted. 
 Why should the settings be fixed ?

 It was a test-message, to see if the feedback address was active, and it
 got rejected not to clutter the list.
 OK, the reject message could maybe have been a bit better.

I'm not even convinced the reject message was sent by a human :-D

 But as Steffen suggested, maybe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is better ?

Definitly. (I already changed it.) That way those mails will be read, I have 
no idea who can read mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



regards,
Holger


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesnt accept mails Re: Request to mailing list Feedback rejected

2007-07-15 Thread Finn-Arne Johansen
Holger Levsen skrev:
 Hi,
 
 On Sunday 15 July 2007 04:07, Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
 has been rejected by the list moderator.  The moderator gave the
 following reason for rejecting your request:
 Posting to this list is restricted. 
 Why should the settings be fixed ?

 It was a test-message, to see if the feedback address was active, and it
 got rejected not to clutter the list.
 OK, the reject message could maybe have been a bit better.
 
 I'm not even convinced the reject message was sent by a human :-D

I am. The reject message was sent by a postmaster.

 But as Steffen suggested, maybe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is better ?
 
 Definitly. (I already changed it.) That way those mails will be read, I have 
 no idea who can read mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Some members of the Skolelinux Board, and some others.
Valid emails get through, but since the list is moderated, it will take
some time.

Moderation is done on daily basis normally, but during vacations, things
 might get slower. Not sure what criteras exists to be a member of the
list though, and it's really low volume (due to moderation...)

// faj
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesnt accept mails Re: Request to mailing list Feedback rejected

2007-07-14 Thread Finn-Arne Johansen
Holger Levsen skrev:
 Hi,
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is mentioned in the press release but sending a mail to 
 that address resulted in the following reply:
 
 On Thursday 12 July 2007 08:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your request to the Feedback mailing list

 Posting of your message titled test

 has been rejected by the list moderator.  The moderator gave the
 following reason for rejecting your request:

 Posting to this list is restricted. 

 Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator
 at:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 I think we should use a different feedback address :-) (Or fix the settings.)

Why should the settings be fixed ?

It was a test-message, to see if the feedback address was active, and it
got rejected not to clutter the list.
OK, the reject message could maybe have been a bit better.

But as Steffen suggested, maybe [EMAIL PROTECTED] is better ?

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesnt accept mails Re: Request to mailing list Feedback rejected

2007-07-13 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think we should use a different feedback address :-) (Or fix the
 settings.)
What about using [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers
Steffen


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New mailing list

2005-12-17 Thread Xavier Oswald
Hi,

We have created a new mailing list around debian-edu for french people.
If you are interested, you can find it here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-french/


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Re: Please open the release-team mailing list archive to the public

2005-09-09 Thread Geert Stappers
 
 If you have opinions on why a release team, how
 to get started and how to attract people please speak
 up.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/


/me, way too terse 


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Re: Please open the release-team mailing list archive to the public

2005-09-07 Thread Vidar Bakke


On 6 Sep, 2005, at 13:31, Geert Stappers wrote:



Hello,

This posting aims to get a Visible Release Team.


I spoke with Finn-Arne this morning and the mailinglist
will be removed later today.

Finn-Arne, Klaus and myself are busy doing other stuff
and I have not heard from Ragnar in a while. Since
the release team is inactive I suggest that we restart
the release team process.

If you have opinions on why a release team, how
to get started and how to attract people please speak
up.
If you would like to be part of the release team and
actually do stuff please let us all know.

-vidar




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Re: Please open the release-team mailing list archive to the public

2005-09-07 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi Vidar

Please give some details. 
Maybe I would be interested in doing some stuff for the release team,
depends on which work and who else will help.
I am also right busy with skolelinux maintaining in the german group and
with some packages but I wont say no. Maybe we can arrange some
cooperation and do some testing stuff here in germany, Kurt?
It is very important to get our sarge versions stable, so this is of
high priority.

Greetings
Steffen


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Re: Please open the release-team mailing list archive to the public

2005-08-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Monday 04 July 2005 15:01, Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
  Checking
  URL:https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/release-team,
  I see that the archive is only available for list memebers.  Please
  change this to be a public archive.
 The list is barely created, and is created for the release team do do
 their discussion. If the release team choose to have their discussions
 in open, then the list will be opened. If the release will make a public
 statement, they will use an apropriate mailng list (I guess debian-edu
 will be apropriate)

As some time has passed now, what did the release team decide on this issue ? 
(If I have missed the announcement on this on the debian-edu list, I'd be 
happy for a pointer.)


regards,
Holger (who doesnt want to get involved into the release teams business 
atm 
but who does think it's important that (important) decissions  discussions 
in an open project are made in public.)





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Please open the release-team mailing list archive to the public

2005-07-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

I had a look at
URL:http://developer.skolelinux.no/info/sargebuilding/, discovering
the release-team mail address.  Trying to access the archive for this
list, I was asked for username and password.

Checking
URL:https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/release-team,
I see that the archive is only available for list memebers.  Please
change this to be a public archive.

It would also be great if the list administrator could visit
URL:http://gmane.org/subscribe.php and get the new list included on
gmane, so those of us using that service could read it there.


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Re: Please open the release-team mailing list archive to the public

2005-07-04 Thread Finn-Arne Johansen
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 I had a look at
 URL:http://developer.skolelinux.no/info/sargebuilding/, discovering
 the release-team mail address.  Trying to access the archive for this
 list, I was asked for username and password.
 
 Checking
 URL:https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/release-team,
 I see that the archive is only available for list memebers.  Please
 change this to be a public archive.
 
 It would also be great if the list administrator could visit
 URL:http://gmane.org/subscribe.php and get the new list included on
 gmane, so those of us using that service could read it there.

The list is barely created, and is created for the release team do do
their discussion. If the release team choose to have their discussions
in open, then the list will be opened. If the release will make a public
statement, they will use an apropriate mailng list (I guess debian-edu
will be apropriate)


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Re: Please open the release-team mailing list archive to the public

2005-07-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Finn-Arne Johansen]
 If the release team choose to have their discussions in open, then
 the list will be opened.

I thought doing the discussion in the open was the only option.  What
do you mean?


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Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-10-25 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi all,

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:

 Personal issues aside, the procedure to get a new mailing list would
 be to get some consensus on this list regarding name and topic, and
 ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] to create it.  The postmasters normally
 create new lists within less then a week.

Okay, I think we'll have a real use for this now.

Can I propose that an English Language Skolelinux Administrators list be
created.  A few suggested addresses, names etc:

Name: Skolelinux Administrators Group
Address:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Topic: General Discussion and Assistance for Skolelinux Administrators
Language: English

If anyone else has better ideas, please shout.  The above are just quick
guesses.  After a little while for discussion I'll mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it set up.

 (And try to get gmane.org to archive the list, for convenience. :)

Indeed.  Will mail Lars now.

Gavin




Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-09-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Gavin McCullagh]
 I know most of the users are currently in Norway but a mailing list for
 direct help in English would appeal to English speaking countries as well
 as other people with English as a second language.

Personally, I believe the skolelinux cluster have too many mailing
lists.  The complete list is available from
URL:http://developer.skolelinux.no/mailinglister.html (Hm, it is
outdated, is lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] and should list
debian-edu@lists.debian.org instead).

Personal issues aside, the procedure to get a new mailing list would
be to get some consensus on this list regarding name and topic, and
ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] to create it.  The postmasters normally
create new lists within less then a week.

(And try to get gmane.org to archive the list, for convenience. :)




Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-09-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On 02-09-2004 10:35, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
| [Gavin McCullagh]
|
|I know most of the users are currently in Norway but a mailing list for
|direct help in English would appeal to English speaking countries as well
|as other people with English as a second language.
|
|
| Personally, I believe the skolelinux cluster have too many mailing
| lists.  The complete list is available from
| URL:http://developer.skolelinux.no/mailinglister.html (Hm, it is
| outdated, is lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] and should list
| debian-edu@lists.debian.org instead).
Which could be seen as a hint that Skolelinux is norwegian and
Debian-edu is global.
| Personal issues aside, the procedure to get a new mailing list would
| be to get some consensus on this list regarding name and topic, and
| ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] to create it.  The postmasters normally
| create new lists within less then a week.
...or follow the procedure at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list to create the
mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-09-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On 02-09-2004 11:08, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
| [Jonas Smedegaard]
|
|Which could be seen as a hint that Skolelinux is norwegian and
|Debian-edu is global.
|
|
| No, I only believe it is a hint that you are very focused on the
| issue. :)
No?
I said could be, not is, should or must ;-)
|...or follow the procedure at
|http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list to create the
|mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
|
| Based on earlier experience, this seem to take a bit longer.
Including getting the word spread to potentially interested people?
I see no problem for Skolelinux in advertising at their list overview
that non-norwegian lists are at Debian, but I do see a problem for
Debian in advertising on their list overview where additional lists of
this and that sub-project are hosted.
Please note that I do not object to creating international lists at
Skolelinux. I just want this baby to lift off best possible.

Could someone please remind me what is the relationship between Debian
and Skolelinux, as seen from the Skolelinux side? I honestly want to help

Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-09-02 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On  02  2004 12:40, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
 There is also the question of whether this separates the developer
 too much from user questions.  In that case, either developers can
 lurk on the new list too or at worst I suppose all mails could be
 cc'd across.  It seems clear to me that there is currently no
 newbie type conversation on debian-edu.  If this were to change a
 lot (though I don't believe it will as things stand), I suspect
 some developers might start asking for a separate list.

I believe that this will happen eventually, esp. as Skolelinux takes 
off in other countries. And then we might have a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{no, org} (or debian.org, whichever you prefer), 
a users-no@, users-el@ etc, so that teachers can discuss 
administration, users, etc. but _not_ developer/technical matters in 
their own native language.

It's only a matter of demand, but i guess it's best to plan ahead.

Konstantinos




Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc (International webforum)

2004-08-16 Thread Arnt Ove Gregersen
On Monday 09 August 2004 15:45, Håvard Korsvoll wrote:
 There is already a norwegian web-forum for skolelinux [1]. This is not
 used much, but I think real end-users would like such a forum. If you ask
 Arnt Ove (CC-ed), I think he would love to set up an international forum
 as well.

I have created a early version of a international web-forum on :

http://www.skolelinux.no/webforums/skolelinux_en/

Please take a look and tell me what you think !?

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Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-08-09 Thread Håvard Korsvoll
Hi

There is already a norwegian web-forum for skolelinux [1]. This is not
used much, but I think real end-users would like such a forum. If you ask
Arnt Ove (CC-ed), I think he would love to set up an international forum
as well.
The problem is that many developers doesn't like web-forum as
communication channel, they prefer mailing lists. This could be solved by
letting the developers sign up in the forum and forward postings in
relevant forums to their personal mail.
We could also let all postings be forwarded to the mailing lists, if it is
not to much traffic.

Håvard
[1] http://www.skolelinux.no/webforums/skolelinux_no/

 Hi Gavin,

 seems like everybody sticked to your AMD vs. Intel question - hence
 belated  comments on the topic :)

 Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2004 15:31 schrieb Gavin McCullagh:
 Hi,

 I'm very new here so pardon my impertinence!

 Is there currently an English speaking Skolelinux (or I guess
 debian-edu) Users (as opposed to developers) mailing list?  If not, is
 there any intention to start one?  It appears that there probably is a
 Norwegian one but an English one would broaden the field somewhat.

 You are right that there is no specific users list in English - AFAIK
 that is.  We had similar discussions on German users list - which was
 created as users  list from the very beginning. Still, mere front end
 users keep complaining  about too much technical contents...


 The reason I ask is I'm hoping in the next few weeks to start a test
 in order to help my old school set up a Skolelinux network here in
 Dublin. The main teacher involved is extremely smart but not that
 experienced with linux.  It would be very helpful for him to have a
 User Group (as opposed to a Developers Group) which would answer
 questions, give pointers, discuss issues etc.

 If the community of natively English speaking users increases, having a
  separate users list could be a good thing. On the other hand there are
 two  contradicting issues:

 * splitting up this list could increase the loss by friction
 * real front end users are not too familiar with mailing lists - a web
 forum  possible rather matches their needs

 Personally, I would sign up for both lists but I would prefer not to
 ask/answeruser or basic admin questions on the Dev group and I think
 the technical level of discussion would be a bit off-putting to a
 teacher who is relatively new to linux.

 Presumably the point of Skolelinux is that teachers and school
 students are the main target.  Perhaps a forum for them to discuss
 their issues and ask questions is important?

 Are you referring to the suggested users list, here? Or would you
 install a  web forum for this task?

 At the moment I have a few questions which I would prefer to put to a
 Users list, eg

 Well, your questions were examples, but alas distracted people from the
  original subject. However, this indicates that people on this list are
 the  most competent to answer users' problems...

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 Regards to Dublin 
 hello to Belfield :)

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Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-08-09 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi,

On Mon, 09 Aug 2004, Ralf Gesel|ensetter wrote:

 seems like everybody sticked to your AMD vs. Intel question - hence belated 
 comments on the topic :)

my fault for mixing questions together, sorry!

 You are right that there is no specific users list in English - AFAIK that 
 is. 
 We had similar discussions on German users list - which was created as users 
 list from the very beginning. 

I know most of the users are currently in Norway but a mailing list for
direct help in English would appeal to English speaking countries as well
as other people with English as a second language.

 Still, mere front end users keep complaining about too much technical
 contents...

The people I had in mind are beginning administrators as opposed to
beginner users.  If a beginning administrator has difficulty with mailing
lists, she/he has bigger problems.  Perhaps what I'm talking about is
better described as a Skolelinux Administrators Group (The SKAG!).  Most of
the users would probably be better off on the forums for the software in
question (eg OpenOffice).

 If the community of natively English speaking users increases, having a 
 separate users list could be a good thing. On the other hand there are two 
 contradicting issues:
 
 * splitting up this list could increase the loss by friction

If it's necessary that the developers see the users problems, they
could join both and continue to discuss development issues on debian-edu
thereby shielding the newbie users from the finer points of ldif etc.  For
a beginning admin it will be very difficult to interrupt such a discussion
to ask something like `when I boot a thin client, I see the starting
syslogd message and then the screen goes blank'.

 * real front end users are not too familiar with mailing lists - a web forum 
 possible rather matches their needs

I guess it's a preference thing but I don't much like web forums.  In my
experience they're rather clumsy to search and use.  

For example I've been dealing with issues like getting etherboot/pxe
working, network booting options which don't seem to do anything much,
old monitors which need special host configs in ltsp etc.   These would
seem out of place on the developer list as they don't really reflect
development issues.

If a mailing list gets up and going, a good FAQ will become convenient to
write for it based on the answers in the archive.

 Are you referring to the suggested users list, here? Or would you install a 
 web forum for this task?

No, I guess this is a real user forum (be it mailing list, web forum or
whatever).  However, I hadn't really thought much into this.  I'm not sure
if it's useful or if, as I said, the users would be better off in the
OpenOffice/KDE/etc forums.

 Well, your questions were examples, but alas distracted people from the
 original subject. However, this indicates that people on this list are
 the most competent to answer users' problems...

Sorry about that, though it was very nice to get the answers.  Thanks to
all concerned.  I agree of course that this group are well qualified to
answer questions.  However it seems to me that the topic of the group would
be best described as development rather than user.  

For my part I will happily join immediately and do my best to answer
questions (though my experience of Skolelinux is currently short, I've been
a few years on Debian).  If some administration is required I guess I can
help there too.  I've never setup a public mailing list though.

Gavin




Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-08-09 Thread Ralf Gesel|ensetter

Hi Håvard ,

your suggestion sounds good. 

Am Montag 09 August 2004 15:45 schrieb Håvard Korsvoll:
 The problem is that many developers doesn't like web-forum as
 communication channel, they prefer mailing lists. This could be solved by
 letting the developers sign up in the forum and forward postings in
 relevant forums to their personal mail.

Well, this makes me think if not to use a web forum with an email interface 
like s-team has?

Regards
Ralf




English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-07-28 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi,

I'm very new here so pardon my impertinence!

Is there currently an English speaking Skolelinux (or I guess debian-edu)
Users (as opposed to developers) mailing list?  If not, is there any
intention to start one?  It appears that there probably is a Norwegian one
but an English one would broaden the field somewhat.

The reason I ask is I'm hoping in the next few weeks to start a test in
order to help my old school set up a Skolelinux network here in Dublin.
The main teacher involved is extremely smart but not that experienced with
linux.  It would be very helpful for him to have a User Group (as opposed
to a Developers Group) which would answer questions, give pointers, discuss
issues etc.

Personally, I would sign up for both lists but I would prefer not to
ask/answeruser or basic admin questions on the Dev group and I think the
technical level of discussion would be a bit off-putting to a teacher who
is relatively new to linux.

Presumably the point of Skolelinux is that teachers and school students are
the main target.  Perhaps a forum for them to discuss their issues and ask
questions is important?

At the moment I have a few questions which I would prefer to put to a Users
list, eg 

 * is it possible to get the beautiful KDE config from snofrix to work on venus?
 * is it inadvisable to use a backport of OpenOffice 1.1.X on venus?
 * Xeons are recommended (if I've translated the Norwegian hardware page
   correctly) and Athlon MPs are not so.  What is the opinion on Opterons
   in 32-Bit mode?

Gavin




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Re: English skolelinux users mailing list etc

2004-07-28 Thread Knut Yrvin
onsdag 28. juli 2004, 15:31, skrev Gavin McCullagh:
  * is it possible to get the beautiful KDE config from snofrix to work on
venus?

There is backports of KDE 3.2.x that runs on Debian Woody. 
http://www.linuxcompatible.org/story28820.html

 * is it inadvisable to use a backport of OpenOffice 1.1.X on 
   venus?

There is a backport of OpenOffice 1.1.1 the news are not updated: 
http://openoffice.debian.net/


Probably the easiest way to aproach this is to migrate to sarge:  

http://developer.skolelinux.no/dokumentasjon/debian-edu_sarge_installation.txt

Klaus Ade Johnstad has made a hell of a book called Running a Skolelinux 
network. He is in the midle of a process getting new stuf into the book, 
and translate it into english. Unfortunatly it's in Norwegian just now. In 
the meantime the old ICT administration manual for Skolelinux could help?

Klaus Ade's book: 
http://www.skolelinux.org/no/documentation/manuals/driftbok

The old ICT administration manual for Skolelinux: 
http://developer.skolelinux.no/dokumentasjon/IKT-bok.en.html

Sincerly 

Knut Yrvin