Re: r74050 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/samba

2011-09-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

I agree, IPv6 is something for wheezy.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: r74050 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/samba

2011-09-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 3. September 2011, mike-gabriel-gu...@alioth.debian.org wrote:
 Log:
 Disable IPv6 for Samba on Skolelinux systems (clients+server).

why?


cheers,
Holger


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Re: r74050 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/samba

2011-09-04 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Holger,

On So 04 Sep 2011 10:32:18 CEST Holger Levsen wrote:


Hi,

On Samstag, 3. September 2011, mike-gabriel-gu...@alioth.debian.org wrote:

Log:
Disable IPv6 for Samba on Skolelinux systems (clients+server).


why?


Because...

1. it is not needed in a non-IPv6 network
2. it flushes /var/log/syslog with error messages

The alternative (for getting rid of the error messages) would be a DNS  
setup for IPv6 which definitely is a no-go.


Greets,
Mike


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Re: r74050 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/samba

2011-09-04 Thread Marius Kotsbak
On 04. sep. 2011 14:46, Mike Gabriel wrote:
 Hi Holger,

 On So 04 Sep 2011 10:32:18 CEST Holger Levsen wrote:

 Hi,

 On Samstag, 3. September 2011, mike-gabriel-gu...@alioth.debian.org
 wrote:
 Log:
 Disable IPv6 for Samba on Skolelinux systems (clients+server).

 why?

 Because...

 1. it is not needed in a non-IPv6 network
 2. it flushes /var/log/syslog with error messages

 The alternative (for getting rid of the error messages) would be a DNS
 setup for IPv6 which definitely is a no-go.


Well, IPv6 is spreading now, at least in Norway. I have it at work and
can access some IPv6 web servers like google, so in some time we need to
have it working anyway. For now probably all IPv6 networks are dual with
IPv4 too.

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Re: r74050 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/samba

2011-09-04 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Marius,

On So 04 Sep 2011 15:27:18 CEST Marius Kotsbak wrote:


On 04. sep. 2011 14:46, Mike Gabriel wrote:

Hi Holger,

On So 04 Sep 2011 10:32:18 CEST Holger Levsen wrote:


Hi,

On Samstag, 3. September 2011, mike-gabriel-gu...@alioth.debian.org
wrote:

Log:
Disable IPv6 for Samba on Skolelinux systems (clients+server).


why?


Because...

1. it is not needed in a non-IPv6 network
2. it flushes /var/log/syslog with error messages

The alternative (for getting rid of the error messages) would be a DNS
setup for IPv6 which definitely is a no-go.



Well, IPv6 is spreading now, at least in Norway. I have it at work and
can access some IPv6 web servers like google, so in some time we need to
have it working anyway. For now probably all IPv6 networks are dual with
IPv4 too.


You certainly do not want to have IPv6 hosts at schools... Pure IPv6  
does not know about NATted networks. Every host in an IPv6 network has  
a publicly unique IP.


My recommendation for Skolelinux is to use NAT 4-to-6 if IPv6 (Asian  
ISP market, etc.) is really an issue. That is: use IPv4 .


For Debian Edu squeeze I recommend reduction of log errors in favour  
of thinking full IPv6 networking within the SL intranet.


And note: I have not disabled IPv6 completely on tjener and clients.  
The patch only addresses Samba.


Greets,
Mike

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Re: r74050 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/samba

2011-09-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sonntag, 4. September 2011, Mike Gabriel wrote:
 Because...
 
 1. it is not needed in a non-IPv6 network
 2. it flushes /var/log/syslog with error messages
 
 The alternative (for getting rid of the error messages) would be a DNS
 setup for IPv6 which definitely is a no-go.

Right. Thanks.


cheers,
Holger

P.S.: even though you don't need NAT with IPv6, you can still firewall 
machines :)


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Re: r74050 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/samba

2011-09-04 Thread Mike Gabriel

Good morning,

On So 04 Sep 2011 22:35:30 CEST Holger Levsen wrote:


P.S.: even though you don't need NAT with IPv6, you can still firewall
machines :)


Yes, and: IPv6 needs a complete separate firewall setup. An IPv4  
firewall (that's what most firewalls do) does not block a single IPv6  
packet. IPv4 firewalled networks are open gates once you setup IPv6  
without re-working your firewall setup in IPv6. This we neither want  
to do on d-e squeeze, do we?


Greets,
Mike

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