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Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:47:20PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
 Ben Hutchings writes (Increasing minimum 'i386' processor):
  The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
  1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
 I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to
 have to replace it.

 vendor_id : CentaurHauls
 model name: VIA Samuel 2

I don't see any 486 in this name.

Bastian

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Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Hutchings writes (Increasing minimum 'i386' processor):
 The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
 1. All x86 processors with names including '486'

I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to
have to replace it.

Perhaps a better approach would be to suggest that people with shiny
new hardware should be running amd64 kernels with i386 userland, or
even amd64 (with multiarch i386 for proprietary crap that isn't
available for amd64) ?

Ian.

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cpu family  : 6
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Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Lors de  la soirée naissante du mardi 22  novembre 2011, vers 18:28,
Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org disait :

  The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
  1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
 I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to
 have to replace it.

 vendor_id: CentaurHauls
 model name   : VIA Samuel 2

 I don't see any 486 in this name.

This processor  does not run with a  686 kernel and needs  a 486 kernel.
If   I  remember   correctly,   it   is  because   the   lack  of   CMOV
instruction. Therefore, no problem with 586.
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Bug#649615: gdc-4.4: Annoying multilib warning

2011-11-22 Thread Peter De Wachter
Package: gdc-4.4
Version: 1.063-4.4.6-7
Severity: important

Any invocation of the gdc-4.4 compiler prints a multilib-relted warning:

  cc1d: warning: command line option -imultilib is valid for
  C/C++/Fortran/ObjC/ObjC++ but not for D

This is rather annoying and hides useful compiler warnings.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.1.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=nl_BE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=nl_BE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages gdc-4.4 depends on:
ii  g++-4.44.4.6-11  
ii  gcc-4.4-base   4.4.6-11  
ii  libc6  2.13-21   
ii  libgcc11:4.6.2-4 
ii  libgmp10   2:5.0.2+dfsg-2
ii  libmpfr4   3.1.0-3   
ii  libphobos-4.4-dev  1.063-4.4.6-7 
ii  libstdc++6 4.6.2-4   

gdc-4.4 recommends no packages.

gdc-4.4 suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information



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Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:47:20PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
 Ben Hutchings writes (Increasing minimum 'i386' processor):
  The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
  1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
 
 I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to
 have to replace it.

As Bastian says, this does not look like a 486.  The flags include
tsc msr cx8.

 Perhaps a better approach would be to suggest that people with shiny
 new hardware should be running amd64 kernels with i386 userland, or
 even amd64 (with multiarch i386 for proprietary crap that isn't
 available for amd64) ?
[...]

I believe Debian should now treat amd64 as the default architecture
for PCs.  The i386 installer does provide it as an option in expert
mode (though it's not on CD 1) but I'm not sure we're quite at the
point where it should be automatically selected.

In any case this is irrelevant to the question of optimising userland.

Ben.

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Bug#649615: gdc-4.4: Annoying multilib warning

2011-11-22 Thread Matthias Klose
On 11/22/2011 07:27 PM, Peter De Wachter wrote:
 Package: gdc-4.4
 Version: 1.063-4.4.6-7
 Severity: important
 
 Any invocation of the gdc-4.4 compiler prints a multilib-relted warning:
 
   cc1d: warning: command line option -imultilib is valid for
   C/C++/Fortran/ObjC/ObjC++ but not for D
 
 This is rather annoying and hides useful compiler warnings.

If you are annoyed, please send a fix.



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Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Matthias Klose
On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
 long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
 and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
 
 I think it is time to increase the minimum requirement to 586-class, if
 not for wheezy then immediately after.

note that squeeze is built this way, and single packages like openjdk only build
for 586.

 (Later it should be increased
 further, and eventually i386 should be reduced to a partial architecture
 that may be installed on amd64 systems.)  This would allow the use of
 optimisations and new instructions throughout userland that improve
 performance for the vast majority of users.

could you give numbers what kind of improvements you would expect?  The biggest
burden for i386 is the register pressure, which you won't fix with targeting a
newer processor.  The better approach would be a new port, the x32 architecture;
I don't know if anybody did look into building a distribution for this
architecture yet.  The next thing could be to default to sse2 math instead of
x87 (didn't look if this is already the default for x32).

  Matthias


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Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-22 Thread Matthias Klose
On 11/20/2011 01:08 AM, Guillem Jover wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 22:42:11 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
 long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
 and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.

 I think it is time to increase the minimum requirement to 586-class, if
 not for wheezy then immediately after.  (Later it should be increased
 further, and eventually i386 should be reduced to a partial architecture
 that may be installed on amd64 systems.)  This would allow the use of
 optimisations and new instructions throughout userland that improve
 performance for the vast majority of users.
 
 It seems gcc has been targetting i586 instruction set by default since
 gcc 4.4.0-1~exp1, although the triplet was not changed to match. On the
 discussion regarding multiarch tuples I proposed we should switch the
 triplet back to i386-linux-gnu to avoid this kind of confusion, fix the
 internal inconsistency and the one with other architectures (which do
 not track the base instruction set in the triplet) and so that we can
 use them directly as the multiarch tuples.
 
 For more details please see:
 
   http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2011/02/msg00061.html
   http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2011/02/msg00039.html

No, that's wrong. i386-linux-gnu has a different ABI for at least some libraries
(libstdc++) than i486-linux-gnu.  Unfortunately the proposal to use
ix86-linux-gnu for the i386 multiarch triplet didn't find a consensus.

  Matthias


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