Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Christian PERRIER
Hello Helge,

Great but tedious work you're doing on locales licences. IIRC, you
already asked me about those I contributed, right?

Quoting Tomislav Vujec (tvu...@redhat.com):

 I suspect that the only reason that this file references me as a contact is 
 since it was based off Croatian locale that I put together two decades ago. I 
 no longer maintain Croatian locale, but since this one is based off my work 
 that was LGPLd, I believe the same license should apply to it, granting 
 rights for use, distribution and modification according to LGPL.
 
 I hope this helps. Please let me know if there's anything else I'd need to do.


The other contributor, namely Pablo Saratxaga, is a well-known name in
the l10n community. He was (is?) working at Mandrakesoft and doing a
lot of l10n-related work.

You can very certainly reach him by googling a bit, which is certainly
worth it as he contributed many locales. Trying to find an alternative
address to @mandrakesoft.com might be a good idea.




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Bug#555168: Fwd: Re: Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
for the record

- Forwarded message from \Schalk W. Cronjé\ ysb...@gmail.com -

 Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:39:58 +0100
 From: \Schalk W. Cronjé\ ysb...@gmail.com
 To: Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de, dwa...@translate.org.za
 Subject: Re: Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales 
 provided
   by you
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; af; rv:1.9.2.27) 
 Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/3.1.19
 
 Helge,
 
 Let's see what Dwayne has to say. it might be possible to fix all of my 
 legacy out of all of the locales in one go. I would probably just defer to 
 him in the end.
 
 Regards.
 
 Op 08/06/2012 17:15, het Helge Kreutzmann geskryf:
 Hello Schalk,
 thanks for your quick reply.
 
 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 12:23:56AM +0100, Schalk W. Cronjé wrote:
 Absolutely, please remove the text and adjust the license to be the
 same as whatever af_ZA, en_ZA are licensed as nowadays.
 This is not possible: af_ZA has no clause while en_ZA has has the same
 problematic text as en_BW and en_ZW.
 
 The no clause text can be interpreted to be the same license as
 (e)glibc, but if possible an concrete license would be preferable, so
 either LGPL v 2.1 or later or maybe same license than (e)glibc.
 
 
 I have added that text way back in the 90s when the localisation
 effort was just starting in Southern Africa. It is worth a review
 anyway. I have CC'd Dwayne Bailey who coordinated *_ZA locales
 subsequently.
 Thanks. I was going to mail him later for his locales.
 
 Greetings
 
Helge
 

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Bug#675761: Notfixed

2012-06-09 Thread Bas van den Dikkenberg
Bug is not fix bye last upload

sorry

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2012-06-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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 found 675761 burp/1.3.8-1
Bug #675761 [libc0.3-dev] burp: Burp keeps failing build on hurd-i386
Marked as found in versions burp/1.3.8-1.
 reassign 675761 burp
Bug #675761 [libc0.3-dev] burp: Burp keeps failing build on hurd-i386
Bug reassigned from package 'libc0.3-dev' to 'burp'.
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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Christian,
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 08:23:04AM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 Hello Helge,
 
 Great but tedious work you're doing on locales licences. IIRC, you
 already asked me about those I contributed, right?

Nope, you already told it the bug before I started[1]. I listed all
possibly unclear licenses and their resolution[2]. See [3] and [4] for
an explanation.

 Quoting Tomislav Vujec (tvu...@redhat.com):
 
  I suspect that the only reason that this file references me as a contact is 
  since it was based off Croatian locale that I put together two decades ago. 
  I no longer maintain Croatian locale, but since this one is based off my 
  work that was LGPLd, I believe the same license should apply to it, 
  granting rights for use, distribution and modification according to LGPL.
  
  I hope this helps. Please let me know if there's anything else I'd need to 
  do.
 
 
 The other contributor, namely Pablo Saratxaga, is a well-known name in
 the l10n community. He was (is?) working at Mandrakesoft and doing a
 lot of l10n-related work.

See [5].

 You can very certainly reach him by googling a bit, which is certainly
 worth it as he contributed many locales. Trying to find an alternative
 address to @mandrakesoft.com might be a good idea.

Both e-mail adresses known to me failed (with timeouts). 

My plan is to first send out all e-mails and see what I get. For those
who contributed lots of locales, I collected them in one mail
(unfortunately all e-mail addresses were invalid), currently I'm
working through the remaining list. 

I'm not going for the implicit list unless the author also worked on
the non modify one, at least for now.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168#20
[2] http://www.helgefjell.de/debianitem.php?name=bug555168language=en
[3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168#43
[4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168#61
[5] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168#56

Greetings

 Helge

P.S. If you need the full e-mail lists, do not hesitate to ask me; I
 can provide them to you off bug.
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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:

cv_RU

This locale comes with a statement

% Distribution and use is free, also
% for commercial purposes.

Thus it does not allow modification; it is unclear, however, if this
statement was meant as a license.

As discussed in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168 this
locale could strictly speaking not be part of Debian which would be a
great loss. (Currently it is allowed pending investigation).

To properly resolve this, I would like to ask you the following
question:

Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your choice?

If you have any questions regarding this issue, do not hesitate to
contact me (via the reply-to address set).

Thanks for helping to resolve this!

Helge

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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Tomislav,
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 03:34:10PM -0400, Tomislav Vujec wrote:
 - Original Message -
  From: Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de
  
  Hello,
  you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:
  bs_BA
  
 [snip]
  Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
  e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your
  choice?
 
 Helge,
 
 I suspect that the only reason that this file references me as a
 contact is since it was based off Croatian locale that I put
 together two decades ago.  I no longer maintain Croatian locale, but

Correct, it clearly states that:
TODO/bs_BA:% Source: adapted from Croatian locale
TODO/bs_BA:source adapted from Croatian locale

However, the croation one has the same clause.

 since this one is based off my work that was LGPLd, I believe the
 same license should apply to it, granting rights for use,
 distribution and modification according to LGPL.

 I hope this helps. Please let me know if there's anything else I'd need to do.

Definitly. Just for clarity:
So may I note that »LGPGL 2.1 and later« applies to both bs_BA and
hr_HR?

Thanks!

   Helge

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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:

cy_GB

This locale comes with a statement

% Distribution and use is free, also
% for commercial purposes.

Thus it does not allow modification; it is unclear, however, if this
statement was meant as a license.

As discussed in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168 this
locale could strictly speaking not be part of Debian which would be a
great loss. (Currently it is allowed pending investigation).

To properly resolve this, I would like to ask you the following
question:

Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your choice?

If you have any questions regarding this issue, do not hesitate to
contact me (via the reply-to address set).

Thanks for helping to resolve this!

Helge

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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:

csb_PL

This locale comes with a statement

% Distribution and use is free, also
% for commercial purposes.

Thus it does not allow modification; it is unclear, however, if this
statement was meant as a license.

As discussed in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168 this
locale could strictly speaking not be part of Debian which would be a
great loss. (Currently it is allowed pending investigation).

To properly resolve this, I would like to ask you the following
question:

Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your choice?

If you have any questions regarding this issue, do not hesitate to
contact me (via the reply-to address set).

Thanks for helping to resolve this!

Helge

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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:

cs_CZ

This locale comes with a statement

% Distribution and use is free, also
% for commercial purposes.

Thus it does not allow modification; it is unclear, however, if this
statement was meant as a license.

As discussed in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168 this
locale could strictly speaking not be part of Debian which would be a
great loss. (Currently it is allowed pending investigation).

To properly resolve this, I would like to ask you the following
question:

Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your choice?

If you have any questions regarding this issue, do not hesitate to
contact me (via the reply-to address set).

Thanks for helping to resolve this!

Helge

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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:

crh_UA

This locale comes with a statement

% Distribution and use is free, also
% for commercial purposes.

Thus it does not allow modification; it is unclear, however, if this
statement was meant as a license.

As discussed in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168 this
locale could strictly speaking not be part of Debian which would be a
great loss. (Currently it is allowed pending investigation).

To properly resolve this, I would like to ask you the following
question:

Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your choice?

If you have any questions regarding this issue, do not hesitate to
contact me (via the reply-to address set).

Thanks for helping to resolve this!

Helge

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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:

ca_ES

This locale comes with a statement

% Distribution and use is free, also
% for commercial purposes.

Thus it does not allow modification; it is unclear, however, if this
statement was meant as a license.

As discussed in
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168 this
locale could strictly speaking not be part of Debian which would be a
great loss. (Currently it is allowed pending investigation).

To properly resolve this, I would like to ask you the following
question:

Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your choice?

If you have any questions regarding this issue, do not hesitate to
contact me (via the reply-to address set).

Thanks for helping to resolve this!

Helge

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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (deb...@helgefjell.de):
 Hello,
 you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:
 
 cy_GB


Dafydd is a Debian Developer: his Debian address CC'ed as it might
give better chances for him to get the mail.




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Bug#555168: Unclear license situation for (e)glibc locales provided by you

2012-06-09 Thread Adi Roiban
Hi,

I don't know how I ended up as a translator for cv_RU.

Anyway, I agree to release all my work as public license.

Cheers,
Adi



On 9 June 2012 15:35, Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de wrote:
 Hello,
 you are listed as contact person/author of the following locale:

 cv_RU

 This locale comes with a statement

 % Distribution and use is free, also
 % for commercial purposes.

 Thus it does not allow modification; it is unclear, however, if this
 statement was meant as a license.

 As discussed in
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555168 this
 locale could strictly speaking not be part of Debian which would be a
 great loss. (Currently it is allowed pending investigation).

 To properly resolve this, I would like to ask you the following
 question:

 Would you be willing to relicense this locale to a proper license,
 e.g. (L)GPL v2 or higher or another free software license of your choice?

 If you have any questions regarding this issue, do not hesitate to
 contact me (via the reply-to address set).

 Thanks for helping to resolve this!

            Helge

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