Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
On 18.09.20 15:41, Norbert Preining wrote: Hi Marc, we, that is Scarlett Moore and Patrick Franz and me, are working on updating Plasma in Debian. (...) So yes, things are moving, in particular to the collaborative attitude of Scarlett and their and Patrick's work. Thanks a lot everybody for the work and also for a reestablished collaboration! This for sure involved some not so easy steps, but you made it, I am giving kudos to all of you! Your users are very happy to read this and are very thankful to all of you who care for Debian! Best wishes, Marco.
Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
Martin Steigerwald - 18.09.20, 17:58:58 CEST: > Luc Castermans - 18.09.20, 16:14:14 CEST: > > Op vr 18 sep. 2020 om 15:49 schreef Marc Haber > k...@zugschlus.de>: […] > Just for everyone: Plasma 5.19 cannot be tested in complete at the > moment as some packages are going through NEW queue and thus need to > acknowledged manually by FTP masters. > > To me this has been clear from what Norbert wrote and I see to Marc as > well. But to make sure its really clear, here you have it. > > That said, I installed some packages from experimental already. And > they are working here. However, with anything in experimental, if it > breaks, you get to keep the pieces. I won't share the packages names > for now, if you like to be adventurous and are experienced enough I > am sure you find out yourself. Luigi pointed out to me that also Plasma packages are intended to be installed in lock step regarding their version. I was aware of this for KDE Frameworks, but I was not aware of this for Plasma. So this is another way things can break. The other one is that they are still experimental packages. So not recommended. And if you still mix versions you get to keep the pieces *twice* :) Best, -- Martin
Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
Dear Norbert. Norbert Preining - 18.09.20, 15:41:30 CEST: > we, that is Scarlett Moore and Patrick Franz and me, are working on > updating Plasma in Debian. For now we are uploading 5.19(.4) to > Debian/experimental, but this needs a few iterations due to NEW > processing, but hopefully it will be all done soon. Thank you very much! Many thanks also to Scarlett and Patrick! It is great that you work together! Best, -- Martin
Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
Luc Castermans - 18.09.20, 16:14:14 CEST: > Op vr 18 sep. 2020 om 15:49 schreef Marc Haber : > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:41:30PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: > > > we, that is Scarlett Moore and Patrick Franz and me, are working > > > on > > > updating Plasma in Debian. For now we are uploading 5.19(.4) to > > > Debian/experimental, but this needs a few iterations due to NEW > > > processing, but hopefully it will be all done soon. > > > > That is really really good news, thanks for the update! > > > > I am especially glad that things are going forward as a team effort > > and that the team has at least one VERY experienced DD. Thank you > > all for doing this. > > > > Please keep people updated about your progress and especially the > > state of the experimental packages, I have a test notebook that I > > don't mind breaking occasionally, so I can do testing if the > > packages are in a state when trying them makes sense. I guess other > > people might be able to help with that as well. […] > I am happy to test as well! Just for everyone: Plasma 5.19 cannot be tested in complete at the moment as some packages are going through NEW queue and thus need to acknowledged manually by FTP masters. To me this has been clear from what Norbert wrote and I see to Marc as well. But to make sure its really clear, here you have it. That said, I installed some packages from experimental already. And they are working here. However, with anything in experimental, if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces. I won't share the packages names for now, if you like to be adventurous and are experienced enough I am sure you find out yourself. Best, -- Martin
Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
Hi, I am happy to test as well! Luc Op vr 18 sep. 2020 om 15:49 schreef Marc Haber : > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:41:30PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: > > we, that is Scarlett Moore and Patrick Franz and me, are working on > > updating Plasma in Debian. For now we are uploading 5.19(.4) to > > Debian/experimental, but this needs a few iterations due to NEW > > processing, but hopefully it will be all done soon. > > That is really really good news, thanks for the update! > > I am especially glad that things are going forward as a team effort and > that the team has at least one VERY experienced DD. Thank you all for > doing this. > > Please keep people updated about your progress and especially the state > of the experimental packages, I have a test notebook that I don't mind > breaking occasionally, so I can do testing if the packages are in a > state when trying them makes sense. I guess other people might > be able to help with that as well. > > Greetings > Marc > > -- > > - > Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header > Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 > Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421 > > -- Luc Castermans mailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com
Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:41:30PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: > we, that is Scarlett Moore and Patrick Franz and me, are working on > updating Plasma in Debian. For now we are uploading 5.19(.4) to > Debian/experimental, but this needs a few iterations due to NEW > processing, but hopefully it will be all done soon. That is really really good news, thanks for the update! I am especially glad that things are going forward as a team effort and that the team has at least one VERY experienced DD. Thank you all for doing this. Please keep people updated about your progress and especially the state of the experimental packages, I have a test notebook that I don't mind breaking occasionally, so I can do testing if the packages are in a state when trying them makes sense. I guess other people might be able to help with that as well. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
Hi Marc, we, that is Scarlett Moore and Patrick Franz and me, are working on updating Plasma in Debian. For now we are uploading 5.19(.4) to Debian/experimental, but this needs a few iterations due to NEW processing, but hopefully it will be all done soon. I think - but Scarlett please correct me - that after that an upload to unstable, probably of 5.19.5 will be imminent rather soon. 5.20 is still around the corner, but I am starting to work on it in my repositories, so that we can move to it in Debian/unstable quickly. So yes, things are moving, in particular to the collaborative attitude of Scarlett and their and Patrick's work. Let us hope that in future everything moves much more smoothly. Best Norbert On Fri, 18 Sep 2020, Marc Haber wrote: > Please don't break KDE and don't harm Debian. -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Re: Status of Plasma 5.18/5.19?
Hi, more than two months ago, Jeremy Potter asked a valid question. On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 05:08:48PM -0700, Jeremy Potter wrote: > Debian Sid is still on Plasma 5.17, meanwhile 5.18 LTS and 5.19 have > already been released with 5.20 around the corner. I searched the mailing > lists and it seems like this was discussed a few months ago and the KDE > development team were working on a patch, and Norbert Preining (who is > controversial for some reason?) had created a third-party repository with > Plasma 5.18. > > What is the status on this now? Is there anything I can do to help? I'm new > to Debian packaging but I've done packaging for another distro and I'm > willing to learn. This resulted in an, eh, exchange of polite and less than polite words, but not in an answer that "normal people" (and that includes me as a DD with nearly two decades of experience) would understand. Yes, Debian sid/testing is not a rolling release, but a monster like KDE Plasma will most probably need months to stabilize and migrate. If the repeated "is not a rolling release" means that people think that it would work to do one upload two weeks before the bullseye freeze, I violently disagree. KDE in Debian unstable hasn't seen an update in more than a year, we're two upstream releases behind. This is not only a pity for all those people using Debian unstable, it is also driving away people to Ubuntu or KDE Neon, therefore reducing testing personpower shuold new packages be uploaded to Debian at some time. Packaging bugs that happened on a system that probably has seen crossgrades from Debian unstable to some Ubuntu and back are going to be much harder to triage than if they were from a pure Debian unstable system. Frankly, I don't care about personal beefs here, I care about Debian and it's users. If there is a conflict, I urge all participants to take one big step back and re-evaluate what of a work base is still left there, and see what can be done to get KDE Plasma packaging in the future. From what I see, all sides to have some deficiencies in diplomacy of communication, but as responsible volunteers taking care of a HUGE software package, one of the MAJOR desktop environments in the world of Free Software, there is probably not much room for personal quarrels. Please consider making a list of things that need doing, with precise description of the work, possible more exact then "please write quality patches" or "don't break Debian". Packaging of KDE Plasma needs to speed itself up NOW, or Debian bullseye will either ship with a blatantly outdated version of KDE Plasma, or without KDE Plasma at all. Both those possibilities look less than attractive for the project. I have a somewhat difficult and abrasive personality myself, so I'll try to shut up in the discussion that might follow this e-mail, but I feel like somebody needed to put a gavel on the table and remind the people in charge not ony of their rights as package maintainers, but also of their responsibility as members of Debian and the Free Software Community. Please don't break KDE and don't harm Debian. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
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