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Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to unstable

2022-02-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
bruno zanetti - 28.02.22, 15:15:14 CET:
> Il giorno lun 28 feb 2022 alle ore 14:50 Miguel A. Vallejo
> 
> ha scritto:
> > The question is:
> > 
> > Why is APT not smart enough to see that the proposed upgrade will
> > fail?
> > 
> > It always starts to install packages and at some point fails because
> > some package needs another package with a specific version. Why does
> > it not detect these cases after starting upgrading packages? It
> > knows
> > the versions available for every package so it should prevent these
> > problems.
> > 
> > Is it a bug or a missing APT feature?
> 
> I think the problem in which you incurred  is not related to an APT
> bug or (missing) feature but rather a packaging bug (
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1006538) that has
> been catched (and fixed) in sid.
> After all this is just the purpose of sid.

Yes.

And really, to everyone who is complaining:

Debian Sid is also called Debian Unstable.

For a reason!

Either be prepared to handle the occasional glitch – in this case the 
glitch could be handled by using the appropriate dpkg force option.

Or don't use it.

It is really as simple as that.

Best.
-- 
Martin




Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to unstable

2022-02-28 Thread bruno zanetti
Il giorno lun 28 feb 2022 alle ore 14:50 Miguel A. Vallejo 
ha scritto:

> The question is:
>
> Why is APT not smart enough to see that the proposed upgrade will fail?
>
> It always starts to install packages and at some point fails because
> some package needs another package with a specific version. Why does
> it not detect these cases after starting upgrading packages? It knows
> the versions available for every package so it should prevent these
> problems.
>
> Is it a bug or a missing APT feature?
>

I think the problem in which you incurred  is not related to an APT bug or
(missing) feature but rather a packaging bug (
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1006538) that has been
catched (and fixed) in sid.
After all this is just the purpose of sid.

BZ


Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to unstable

2022-02-28 Thread Luigi Toscano
Miguel A. Vallejo ha scritto:
> The question is:
> 
> Why is APT not smart enough to see that the proposed upgrade will fail?
> 


No, it can't infer what humans think, unless the packages contain the
information that their versions are strictly linked together.

-- 
Luigi



Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to unstable

2022-02-28 Thread Alex DEKKER

On 28/02/2022 13:50, Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:

The question is:

Why is APT not smart enough to see that the proposed upgrade will fail?

It always starts to install packages and at some point fails because
some package needs another package with a specific version. Why does
it not detect these cases after starting upgrading packages? It knows
the versions available for every package so it should prevent these
problems.

Is it a bug or a missing APT feature?


I have never seen this behaviour in 20+ years of using Debian [15 of 
them with SID]. Closest thing I have seen is something about "broken 
packages" but that is before it starts to do any actual work. What is 
the message you getting when this happens?


alexd



Re: Plasma 5.24 coming to unstable

2022-02-28 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
The question is:

Why is APT not smart enough to see that the proposed upgrade will fail?

It always starts to install packages and at some point fails because
some package needs another package with a specific version. Why does
it not detect these cases after starting upgrading packages? It knows
the versions available for every package so it should prevent these
problems.

Is it a bug or a missing APT feature?