Re: k3b splash screen wont go away before I click on it
Does the splash screen go away if you switch to another desktop and then back? I'm having this problem, and that's what fixes it for me. On Thursday 06 May 2004 4:55 pm, Greg Cockburn wrote: Yes, kind of. My k3b will do all sorts of weird things. Usually the splash screen goes away eventually, but takes quit a while, at a guess up to about 1 minute. Then I get some weird errors. The problem is, I can not reproduce it successfully, it is random. When it works it works great. One thing I found yesterday, was that having a mounted cd really upset it on startup. Greg On Thu, 6 May 2004 06:12 pm, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: I am really not having much luck with k3b. Have anybody seen this problem, that the splash screen stays up until you click on it? (I know I can disable it, that is not the point.) Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.2.2 on Debian GNU/Linux
konqueror in 3.2/sid
I apt-get upgraded last night, and relogged in this morning, getting the latest kde packages. Now, however, konqueror does not go anywhere, sitting and hanging at 'connecting', no matter what website I point to. I first chalked this up to using an authenticated proxy (which tends to break at least one per major release cycle), but even after changing the proxy setting to 'connect directly to the internet', and trying to go to an internal webserver, I get the same result. I then blew away my settings for konqueror, and the share/apps for konq, khtml, kionetrc, and kioslaverc, reset things up, and have the same problem. I should note that I have also been killing the preloaded konq after each change, just to be sure. The only hint I have been able to find at all is the following from my .xsession-errors: KURLRequester::setProperty( mode, value ) failed: property invalid, read-only or does not exist ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) DCOP aborting while waiting for answer from 'kded' DCOP aborting while waiting for answer from 'kded' QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used I get that every time I try to go to a website in konq. So, any ideas? Cuz I don't like mozilla... Other notes: I have tried with the kwalletmanager running and not, with no change. Also, I never get prompted for a username/password, even after resetting things up. -- D.A.Bishop
Re: KDE 3.2 experimental seems sluggish
I was disappointed with the speed of 3.2, until I cleaned up my config files. On one machine, where I had little personal data, I copied out the bookmarks file, mv'ed my .kde to .kde.bak, and relogged in. On the other, I just went through and deleted every rc file in .kde/share/config that was for an app I didn't care about. I also deleted all caches, empty directories, and etc. I do *not* recommend this approach for someone who doesn't know exactly what they're doing, though B-) In both cases, I immediately saw a big speed improvement, not only in logging in and switching desktops, but also in konqueror and kmail. It's kinda crappy that kde doesn't seem to upgrade well, but thems the breaks... On Wednesday 25 February 2004 02:17 pm, James D. Freels wrote: Excuse me if this is a FAQ. I am mostly pleased with the experimental debs of KDE3.2 made available recently. Thanks goes to the individuals involved. I have noticed that the graphical performance seems sluggish. By this I mean when switching from one virtual window to another (example ctrl-F1, ctrl-F2, etc.), the time to see the new screen is on the order of a few seconds whereas under KDE3.1.5, it was less than a second. This machine has plenty of memory. Indeed, the swap space has not been touched. -- James D. Freels, Ph.D. Oak Ridge National Laboratory [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- D.A.Bishop
Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:04 pm, Joan Roig Amorós wrote: Hi, I upgraded from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.1.2 in Sid as instructed on the Wiki. It has been quite easy and most of the things work great (THANKS to everybody that made that possible! 3.2 is really great). I noticed a few issues: -If you have set Kdm to load Session Type-Last (like I think most people do), it will not start KDE until you point it specifically to KDE . I've noticed that, too, on two seperate machines. - X resolution changed (from 96 to 75dpi) . I have XFree 4.3.0. and /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers has not changed (-dpi 96). The kdm config is now in /usr/share/config/xdm. The file you want is Xservers. This one stumped me for a good long while, as I need +xinerama appended to the vt line, and I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. - Control center has two Display modules (well , not exactly, Kmenu - Preferences-Peripherals- does). The new with Monitor Gamma and Multiple Monitors tabs and the old one with K Xconfig (that never worked for me; this has not changed). Maybe this has to do with the above point? I see this too, but what above point are you referring to? - I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it! ;-). An apt-cache search for kwifi brings back nothing. Where did you get this from? If you did do a .deb install, run dpkg -L packagename to see all the files that it installed. I do that and grep for 'bin' all the time... I hope that helps. I would appreciate a solution specially for X resolution change, two more weeks with this resolution and I will need glasses... Add -dpi 100 to /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers, and restart. That should do ya! -- D.A.Bishop
Re: Upgrade to KDE 3.2: X resolution, Kwifimanager,
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 02:03 pm, Dietz Proepper wrote: David Bishop: On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:04 pm, Joan Roig Amorós wrote: - I can not find Kwifimanager anywhere (and I swear, I installed it! ;-). An apt-cache search for kwifi brings back nothing. Where did you get This is strange. I can see kwifimanager, but it's broken, anyway. The reason seems to be that first kwifimanager depends on some old libiw, which means it won't compile withot modification. The second reason semms to be that kdenetwork-3.2.0/debian/kwifimanager.install contains only the documentation... Turns out I needed an 'update'. I can see it now... -- D.A.Bishop
Re: What do we need arts for?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 11:01 am, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: I don't understand why kde is so closely tied to arts? Speaking from my personal experience, what arts is mostly good for is getting in the way of my sound driver. Since I started using alsa, there has been no correlation between arts and the hardware. It's like I have two sound systems competing with each other, and arts is cripled since it can't adjust the mixer volumes. I'd really rather not use arts at all. Then don't. Go into the Control Center, under Sound Multimedia, select Sound Server. Uncheck 'Start at login', and then use non-kde multimedia apps, like xmms, etc. All you'll be missing is the System Sounds (which I never, ever, turn on) and the use of noatun, kaboodle, etc (which some people don't like, apparently :-). arts isn't magic, and KDE doesn't have a run-time dependency on it. -- D.A.Bishop
Re: KAddressBook and phpGroupWare
On Monday 17 November 2003 11:30 am, Daniel Miller wrote: Is there a way to use SQL-based address books, specifically that used by phpGroupWare, in KAddressBook? I don't mean via import/export - I want to use KAddressBook to work with the live database. There is currently work going on regarding support for that, but you'd have to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. I don't know if it came in under the feature-freeze or not, or if the people that were doing to actually do the work were able to get it done. So, in summary: currently no, possibly yes within a month or two. -- D.A.Bishop
XFree 4.3 and QT/KDE development
Any word on when the current situation regarding subject will be resolved? I am still unable to install the qt development libs due to a dependency on xlibs-pic. I would hate to have to go back to 4.2 :-( Apt lines: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free #XFree 4.3 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main -- D.A.Bishop
Re: XFree 4.3 and QT/KDE development
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 1:46 pm, Sylvain Joyeux wrote: It's fixed in the experimental. They added a xlibs-pic package which depends on xlibs-static-pic. (xf 4.3.0-0pre1v4) -- Sylvain Joyeux I must be screwing something up: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] $ grep exp /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] $ apt-get update snip Get:6 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages [65.7kB] Get:7 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Release [104B] snip [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] $ apt-get install xlibs-pic Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done snip The following packages have unmet dependencies: xlibs-pic: Depends: xlibs (= 4.2.1-13) but 4.3.0-0ds4 is to be installed E: Broken packages [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] $ Ideas? -- D.A.Bishop
Re: Programmer for hire
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 08:41, Bob Tilley (ATT) wrote: I would like to wet my feet in the Open Source pool. Can anyone suggest any needy Projects? I can do C, C++, Pascal, Assembly, etc. and would like to put my talents to work to give something back to the Community that has given my desktop so much. As someone that has contributed in (very) small ways to several different open source projects, I can tell you that your approach, while well-meaning, is almost definetly the wrong way 'round. A much better way is to look at your desktop, figure out what you use the most, pick something in that app that is lacking, and fix it. Rinse, repeat, until you find a project that 'clicks'. The problem with just going with a 'needy' project (and in open source, *all* projects need more programmers, thus making this somewhat moot) is that it is difficult to sustain the drive needed to actually help, when working on a program that you never use. Case in point: my level of involvement in kpilot dropped of dramatically (to nothing) when I started syncing my handspring to my ibook, and stopped using my linux box. Same with kmamerun (not using mame much anymore), and umbrello (no longer diagramming things), and etc So, if you think kate's code folding abilities leave something to be desired, or kdevelop would be a lot nicer with objc support, or k3b could use a way to automatically convert videos for vcds, then go forth and do! And absolutely the best of luck. We need all the help we can get :-) D.A.Bishop
Re: mplayer vs. xine
I say _thin_ wrapper, since neither use arts. For that, you need to wrap mplayer with artsdsp, and take care of latency manually. Not quite true. Mplayer can use arts 'natively', and KMplayer,at least, has a gui option to turn that option on. Alternatively, you can change your mplayer config file, and it will work no matter what front-end you use. This all assumes that you are using an mplayer with arts support built-in. -- Sorry about the whole 'bomb' thing - Bruce Rollins D.A.Bishop pgp8yqrnqhdB3.pgp Description: signature
Re: mplayer vs. xine
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 05:15 pm, Daniel Andor wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2003 12:06 am, David Bishop wrote: I was blindly under the assumption that one would be using mplayer debs from Marillat, which do not have arts support compiled in. (He has a note (as of 04/04/2003) about it on his webpage http://marillat.free.fr ) Yes, I saw some noise about how that is only because he's the Gnome maintainer, and hates KDE. But now I'm passing on gossip... So if you compile mplayer yourself, or use another deb repository, then you can be good with arts. I use his repository, but build from source. Only takes a few minutes, and makes it nice to use in Konqueror (don't have to stop noatun and wait for arts to timeout before viewing a webpage with video). For those of you who are scared to build from source, do this: add 'deb-src http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/ unstable main' to your /etc/apt/sources.list run apt-get source mplayer while in some temp directory go into the newly created subdir then the debian subdir. edit the 'rules' file, look for an mplayer-custom rule, and change the configure to match what you want (add --with-arts, or whatever it is) go back to the main directory and run 'sudo debuild' when it's done crunching, go up one directory and use 'dpkg -i mplayer-custom-blah.deb' to install your shiny new package. If the buld dies complaining about missing packages, just copy and paste the package names into an apt-get install line. If you run into trouble, ask me. Nicely would be preferred, but not required. -- Sorry about the whole 'bomb' thing - Bruce Rollins D.A.Bishop pgpsXSxybfxcY.pgp Description: signature
Re: Using mutt + kmail
On Thursday 26 June 2003 08:51 am, Jens Benecke wrote: Hi, I like KMail for its GUI. I use mutt primarily (because I often read mail remotely via SSH), but I'd like to use KMail when working locally. I realize I'd have to - let KMail recreate its index files each time it starts up, - accept that KMail apparently cannot handle PGP/MIME correctly yet, Anything else? I use mbox files and I don't plan on changing this (with my mail volume, maildir is about 10x as slow when using mutt...) Have you considered using imap? Works fine with mutt and kmail, you can use procmail for filtering (or sieve, if you use cyrus), and you don't have to worry about index files, et. al. Oh, and PGP/MIME works fine, you just need to add the right plugins. There should be some instructions lying around somewhere. A google search for debianaegyptenkmail should do the trick. -- Sorry about the whole 'bomb' thing - Bruce Rollins D.A.Bishop pgpViVtqpknav.pgp Description: signature
Re: KMail autocheck??
If you are using 3.1 or below, add --check (I think) to the command-line when starting KMail (right-click in the icon-properties if that's what you use). From 3.2 on (current cvs) it's in the GUI. On Wednesday 25 June 2003 03:17 pm, Antiphon wrote: Is there any way to configure KMail to automatically check for new mail at its startup? -- Sorry about the whole 'bomb' thing - Bruce Rollins D.A.Bishop pgpEAFntYhqRD.pgp Description: signature
latest kde 3.1.2
Is there any way to install the latest kde development packages alongside XFree86 4.3? It seems to be looking for a -pic package that doesn't exist for me. -- Sorry about the whole 'bomb' thing - Bruce Rollins D.A.Bishop
testing, please ignore
Sorry, please ignore. -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop
Re: Kmplayer not interfacing with arts
On Friday 02 May 2003 09:25 am, Daniel Stone wrote: On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 11:29:00AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: Oh my :-) Does marillat have sources somewhere at least so his packages can be recompiled ? im' workikng on this and repackagihng it so it doesnt suick it's borken in soj many wasy atm but will be fixed so it's all gjood. bedn ow,d d Someone, and I'm not going to say who, is *very*, *very*, drunk G'night, Daniel :-) -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop
Re: KDE media players
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 10:11 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 04:34 schrieb Daniel Stone: Noatun is a full-featured, full-blooded media player. That is surely to be discussed ;) Personally, I think noatun is pure bloat and thus extremely slow. Mostly, users are much happier with xmms. Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a standard KDE file dialog to add stuff, and decent performance (when artswrapper is suid root). If you need something more than that (or less), then you and I don't listen to music or use our computers that same way at all. :-) -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop
Re: KDE media players
snip error messages Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad :-) I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would appreciate a bug report. -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
On Friday 04 April 2003 08:17 am, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: Yo! Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please forgive me. A good place for these is bugs.kde.org, as I know for a fact that the main KMail developers (Don, Ingo, Marc) don't read this list. You will also find out that (as you suspected) most of these have been noticed by other people, so you can 'vote' for your most pressing wishlist item or bugfix (rather than creating dupe bug reports, which will just be closed). Why can the composer not remember that I want it to display the message in fixed font? (I assume this is already being corrected in upstream) I don't really know what you're talking about here. It remembers whatever font I set it to in the 'Appearance'. Are you sure you mean composer? A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted text is shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot (what's a small kde app for taking them?) at http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/kmail-quoting.png (Oh, yes: I'm *not* using custom fonts, but the fonts of the global KDE config). Well, you would need to have custom fonts to make composer use a fixed font (iirc). But this seems much more like a X server/font issue than KMail. Does kmail support a 'display deleted messages as strike-through' mode? Problem: in mailing list folders, while scanning the subject lines, I delete messages much faster than kmail can update the display (I'm using IMAP over an 256/64 connection, so fetching the next message takes its time). Deleting articles that fast does weird things, including making kmail crash occasionally (this could also be related because displaying a message takes its time whin kmail is autoverificating a gpg signature). No, it doesn't. I tend to use a click/shift-click to select a bunch of messages, then delete them all at once. IMAP is one of the places that KMail has lagged, but it is also one of the places that it has gotten better by leaps and bounds with each release. Wishlist feature: newsreader-like 'ignore thread' functionality. I'm confident there is such a wishlist feature. Find it and vote. I can tell you from experience that the KDE devs pay attention to that list, as client side imap filtering is being (has been?) implemented for 3.2 by Don soley based on that. Likely to be a misconfiguration or missing software package: it doesn't display attachments (simple ones, like jpgs etc.) inline. Wishlist (that's not in kmail, though, as far as I understand): a [ ] do not ask for this MIME type again check box when launching an application to view an attachment. I get inline display of jpegs. Maybe it uses kview? Sorry, don't know. A 'don't ask again' has been implemented in HEAD, iirc. Matter of taste: I don't like that kmail opens a new window for the source view of the mail. For keyboard reading, switching to source view and back could be easy with a single key stroke. If you do a lot of keyboard reading, you can bind 'view source' to a key, and just use alt-f4 when done. Not what you were asking for, but better than a lot of mousing. Evo remembers sort order and the displayed columns in the header view (and their width and order) on a per folder basis. One thing I'm really gonna miss. Wishlist. kmail - kaddressbook integration: [ ] this person prefers HTML mail [ ] this person prefers encrypted mail [ ] don't sign mail to this person (or even Use ( ) PGP/MIME ( ) inline PGP ( ) S/MIME .. to sign email for this person, but that's probably too fiddly). This is at least partially implemented. I recall being able to set 'always encrypt to this recipient', the last time I tried. HTML and 'don't sign' are not. HTH and HAND. -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop
Re: noatun cd access
You cannot listen to cds in noatun, use kscd for that. And please, for the love of all that is good and righteous and holy, get a smaller sig. Otherwise, Osama wins :-( On Wednesday 12 March 2003 07:42 am, Wolfgang Mader wrote: hallo to everyone, i wondered how to access a audio cd by noatun. i did not find a possibility to do this. pleas tell me the solution. thank you w mader -- snip really long sig -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop
Re: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?
First of all, if you are running sid then you should be competent enough to READ THE MAILING LIST (or list archives) and FIGURE OUT that kdenetwork et cetera is at: deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ ./ Unfortunetly, not etcetera. I.e., specifically it is missing all of kdepim, and (I think) some of kdenetwork. I would suggest you use a distribution, like woody, that isn't in rapid development and does not require going to the archives or Google to have it work. Sid is not meant for people, like you, who want to have things work out of the box. No amount of reading the list of googling would have given the answer to the question he asked, which was, when is the rest of kde going into sid?. Actually, he showed the ability to search archives when he looked up the rebuttal to this. It hasn't been discussed over and over *by the people who can answer his question*. Chris hasn't posted to this mailing list in almost three weeks. IIRC, his last email or so was regarding the rest of kde being help up by a bad qt, which, unless I'm mistaken, has been fixed for a while now. So the perfectly valid question, posed in a perfectly valid non-demanding way, is: what's the holdup? Much of the antsiness of people around here could be settled by simple 3-line status updates by the relevant parties. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I'm just in a irritated mood with topics that have been discussed OVER and OVER and OVER again. :) Nobody can stop newbies from signing up to the list and asking the same questions over and over again, with no regard for the list archives (why doesn't my sound work would be a good example of that), but this isn't that email. -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: How Do I Burn CDs?
On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote: Le 03/03/03 à 13:14 Andreas Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait : k3b rules Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So wait a week or so. I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first package. But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It made change on devices and program permission. I think this is a bad idea. k3b also Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd burning on linux, bar none. Relying upon distributions to make this easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the app authors end up working around this. k3b is *not* the only cd burning prog to do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing. provide a configuration file that is note in /etc/. I askded the upstream where I could change this. They doesn't want to answer me ! I find where this could be changed, but when you see what upstream say about the suse packager, this doesn't motivate me to package it ! I know nothing about this, thus can't comment. So I think that I will close my ITP and let someone else package it. You won't find me complaining about what you do or do not do in your spare time*, even when I really, really, want the app you are packaging. Good luck in whatever your endevours take you to next :-) *other email sent 5 minutes ago to the contrary, as I simply said what Chris could do to stop whing, not demanded that he do it -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: Still with the QT problems ...
The only possible explanation is that your default compiler is different from what qt was compiled with. This would happen if, for example, you are using some weird mixture of sid and karolina's packages. To get rid of her packages, run this: dpkg -l | grep \+kl | sudo xargs dpkg --purge Then, after also making sure that you no longer have the wh9 line in your sources file, reinstall qt and kde. Then, it will work. Finally, I guess, run g++ --version from the commandline to make sure that it returns 3.2.3. If it doesn't, then you have to find out why. On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:19 am, Shane House wrote: I do have libqt3-mt-dev installed, and ./configure is still telling me that it can't find it. Unfortunately I haven't been able to point it in the right direction, even though I know the files it needs are in /usr/include/qt3. So far I have tried passing --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 but that didn't work. On Tuesday 25 February 2003 16:26, Michael Thaler wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 03:22:26PM +, Andrew Ingram wrote: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sid/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sid/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://wh9.tu-dresden.de/kde3/karolina ./ deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main Actually, I've just noticed I've got a line for karolina :-S So, I'm not sure what I'm using! Try apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev, maybe this solves your problem, Take care, Michael -- Shane House aka Zoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
ATTENTION: People with qt compilation issues read this.
This is a fresh install of Debian sid using the official KDE 3.1 packages. I did 'dpkg -l grep \+kl' just to be sure, and it came up with nothing. gcc --version returns 'gcc (GCC) 3.2.3 20030221 (Debian prerelease)' so everything looks ok in that regard as well. Then that blows my theory to hell (wrt *your* problem; I think I'm right about Andrew). Earlier today I used a spare machine for a fresh install of Sid with KDE and the necessary QT packages and ran into the same problem. Perhaps it's something I'm doing wrong, though I can't fathom what that might be. This is the part that requires everyone else's attention. Please, those who are trying to compile something and cannot get past the configure step, even with --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3, please email me a (gzipped!) copy of your config.log. I will figure out what's going on and either tell you to stop typing --with-qt-dir=/usr/include/qt3*, or, I will work with Ralf to fix the bug. -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop *i.e., subtle user error
Re: ATTENTION: People with qt compilation issues read this.
He shall remain nameless as to avoid embarassment, but one person so far has had gcc installed but not g++. If you are having problems, please make sure that you have g++ 3.2.3 installed. Again, *g++* 3.2.3 installed, as gcc doesn't do you much good by itself. -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: kaddressbook in sid problem fixed
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! Either export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 or hack the rules file to append --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 Does rc means that I have to reinstall this? No. -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: kmail within kde3.1 on sid ?
On Thursday 13 February 2003 12:27 pm, Petr Bal wrote: Dne t 13. nora 2003 18:59 Djoum napsal(a): Fedor Karpelevitch crit: I was unable to do that. kmail seems to require both kdelibs-dev and libpng2-dev to compile, but they conflict with each other. Is anyone able to compile kmail from sid at the moment? I haven't try it but I've installed deb from Chris Cheney deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ ./ in your sources.list One problem - this version doesn't support IMAP :-((( Works for me. *shrug* -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: How to delete mail off the POP server after retrieval?
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 07:13 am, Geert-Jan Hut wrote: On Tuesday 28 January 2003 09:51, Matt Sheffield wrote: KMail is a very nice program, however, I have not figured out if there is a way to delete messages off my POP account once I have deleted them locally. It seems every email program has this feature, does KMail? Of course, I may have not poked around sufficiently... In the pop account settings (Settings-Configure KMail-Network). Select the pop account you use and you get a screen where you can set/reset this option. You really should set this, otherwise your account will overflow... For testing purposes (to not lose mail) or in special cases you can reset it. I *think* his question is slightly different. Some email clients support making pop3 into a pseudo-imap by not deleting emails off the pop server at first (i.e., the config option you pointed him to), until you delete the email locally (i.e., after filtering, reading, etc.). So, in case that was the question, no, KMail does not support that. If you want to have multiple client access your account, use imap :-) -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade with ralf's stable
Yes, the stable ones are newer. (3.1 vs. 3.0.99). No, Ralf is not going to update the unstable packages any more. If KDE is currently working for you, then I would personally remove any 3rd party apt-lines at all (including Ralf's) and wait for 3.1 to enter unstable officially. On Monday 27 January 2003 07:47 am, R. Rodriguez wrote: Hi all. I use ralf's packages for sid, and i've just added the STABLE line in my sources (cause i want some apps, like kbiff). But now when i type dist-upgrade, it wants to upgrade 154 packages!!! Are stable ones newer than unstable ones or what? Should i upgrade or simply install the apps i want and delete the line? Thanks in advance. Ralf, GREAT Job :) -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: README
Speaking of unstable, what are the plans for updating your sid build? I realize that you are a (slightly) busy man, so this isn't a demand, I just didn't know if you were even going to bother what with the (imminent?) release of 3.1 into sid directly. On Tuesday 21 January 2003 02:59 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote: Hi, I've added a README at http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/README I would like to extend it with a chapter about unstable (ok, the part about installing XFree 4.2.1 is missing,too still :-), so if anyone would like to add that, feel free to send it in (but try to avoid double work, speak up here first) and I will add it. In case of any further problems with unstable we can extend that file and point to it :-) Ralf -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org -- Yousa steala precious from meesa! - Jar-Jaromir D.A.Bishop
Re: New packages changes
me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts support, not alsa support - if you like it different for performance reasons, please speak up :-) Consider this me speaking up :-) Alsa is highly discouraged by the rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues. I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to make it worth it. Thanks! D.A.Bishop
Re: New packages changes
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 01:33:49AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003 01:09, David Bishop wrote: me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts support, not alsa support - if you like it different for performance reasons, please speak up :-) Consider this me speaking up :-) Alsa is highly discouraged by the rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues. I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to make it worth it. What now ? Alsa or arts preferred ? I didn't get it because of your typos :-) Ralf Damn. Alsa preferred, arts not. Sorry, just got back from the hospital after having my fourth child. Well, *I* didn't have him, my wife did, but whatever. My brain has yet to re-engage :-) D.A.Bishop
ogg and 3.1
Using Karolina's packages, decoding any ogg file in noatun uses 25-40% of my cpu (PIII 750Mhz, 768Meg ram), and skips horribly (unlistenably). Playing the same file using ogg123 works perfectly, as do mp3s in noatun. Confirmation of the problem? Possible fix? I'm running 2.4.19 with the pre-empt patch, and artswrapper is installed suid, and real-time is turned on in kcontrol-sound. Since about 2/3rds of my collection is in .ogg, this is rather painful :-( -- D.A.Bishop
request for debs to be added to ktown
Please add knetload and kcpuload. Those are the only two missing that I can see :-) Thanks! -- D.A.Bishop
Re: Sound problem
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3 /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.0 This is the second time this has come up, I don't know why :-( -- D.A.Bishop
Re: Miscellaneous issues
On Monday 09 December 2002 05:04 am, jedd wrote: Howdi, I've rtfa'd, but can't find much info on these issues that are currently confusing / annoying me. I'm using kde 3.0.3 debs, with a mostly sarge, partly sid, system. Kernel 2.4.19 (custom), and using KDE natively on XFree 4 as well as via VNC. Mostly I work around problems I find, but building a box from scratch for the girlfriend recently highlighted a lot of things I'd never noticed before. I'm hoping someone can help with at least one of these. :) I'm not up on all of these, but I'll help where I can. CD burning. Arson seems the best of breed, as far as aesthetics go, but it gets mighty confused with my ide-scsi sg0 cdrom device (AOpen 32x). gcombust gets further, but it's a less consistent UI. Arson's lack of data-burning functionality is a bit weird. What do most Debian / KDE3 users use? (I'd normally use mkiso / cdrecord in konsole, but the girly's not really into the CLI ... yet. ;) I used gcombust for a long time, and it worked great. I'm now using k3b, which is the first KDE-based cd burner app that works as well. I am now using 3.1, so I can't tell you how k3b will work for you, but gcombust is fine (confused yet?). Browsing (file). Maybe it's an MS-ism, but opening the sub-dirs in the lefthand pane doesn't scroll the pane up (to reveal the bit that you just descended into). Is that normal? Configurable? It took me a little while to figure out what you were talking about. I do not think that is configurable. I guess I'm used to using the scroll-wheel to move it down, and I don't use Windows so I can't tell you what the MS-ism is :-) Printing m's. I *think* this is a KWord issue. When printing to my HP LaserJet 1200, the rightspace on m's is missing, so every m runs into the next character. Printing from kedit (f.e.) doesn't show this problem. Anyone else seeing this? Using the same font? Any font? What happens if you print to a pdf, then use kprinter to print the pdf? PDF's. kghostview barfs on pretty much any pdf I throw at it, but gv copes with the same file(s), which is particularly weird. Anyone else seeing this with kghostview .v. gv? I have vague recollections of this being a problem with those packages. Search the list archives for kghostview, to see what the fix was (there was a fix). xmms-arts. It doesn't seem to be available as a deb with kde3, or am I missing something obvious? There's a several second delay after trying to start an mp3 file with xmms. I installed the custom deb for xmms-kde, which is also damned sexy, but it's just a front-end so didn't affect this problem. I'm sure there was an arts-output for xmms in the kde2 debs . . . (?). The solution for this is to set your artsd timeout to something very low (or turn it off, if you don't use noatun/kaboodle), and the use the OSS output for xmms. At least I've never had anything but problems with the arts output for xmms. On the other hand, I now use noatun exclusively, so maybe its improved in the meantime. file .v. web konqing -- I'm sure I used to have the 'home' button configured to take me to ~ when doing file-browsing, and to take me to http://localhost when doing web-browsing, in earlier versions of the deb's for KDE. Is this a lost feature now? Hrm, I'd never figured out how to do that (set seperate homes). So to me it's a never had feature :-) konq-web peculiarities. I've seen others mention some sites that they get bad performance on -- for me it's www.theregister.co.uk, which is strange because they're pretty pro-GNU/Linux. I get really slow loads on what are mostly text pages, and about half the time I get pages devoid of text. Do others get this with them, or is the problem at my end? This may be the ip6 problem that was bandied about here a little while ago. You'd probably be best served again by checking the archives for the various suggestions. home/end key mapping - on VNC this works fine, doing shift-end to select to end of line. On direct console (different machine, same set of deb's) shift-end on the numeric keypad just shows a '1'. I think I saw something about this, but googling on the relevant keywords is less than satisfying. I don't actually know what you're talking about here. In bash? In a text editor? I get 1 if my num-lock isn't on, but a capital F in bash, and the select to end of line behavior in KMail's composer if it is. I mean, I feel dumb for suggesting it, but did you check your numlock? Hope that helps. -- D.A.Bishop A man, a plan, a caret, a ban, a myriad, a sum, a lac, a liar, a hoop, a pint, a catalpa, a gas, an oil, a bird, a yell, a vat, a caw, a pax, a wag, a tax, a nay, a ram, a cap, a yam, a gay, a tsar, a wall, a car, a luger, a ward, a bin, a woman, a vassal, a wolf, a tuna, a nit, a pall, a fret, a watt, a bay, a daub, a tan, a cab, a datum, a
Re: Miscellaneous issues
snip A man, a plan, a caret, a ban, a myriad, a sum, a lac, a liar, a hoop, a ... snip Panama! - Dan Hoey snip Um, sorry about that. Was messing around and obviously attached the wrong thing as a sig :-P Won't happen again -- D.A.Bishop
Re: trouble installing kde-3.0.5 on woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Someone was funny at download.kde.org and copied the 3.04 packages to the 3.0.5 directory. Any comments? There are at least some 3.0.5 packages there... Yes, QT3.0.5 but not KDe3.0.5 :) IIRC, only kdelibs and maybe base were actually updated with 3.0.5, everything else is the same. So in effect, they *are* 3.0.4. Dunno if that's what's going on here, but maybe. - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE93pZoEHLN/FXAbC0RAhiNAKDIvZBRP5M85DbQ74VathVVoc6aRACfTKdE /u58RaR0KKIvuT4CcBwVEEU= =QlKT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDe31rc2, qt problem ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 13 November 2002 03:46 am, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: onsdagen den 13 november 2002 10.54 skrev Lucas Garcia: Hi all! I have a problem with my debian and my kde31rc2.. i install this kde with shakti.ath.cx sources, and now, when i load any kde application, the kmail menus (for example) are fucked.. the text menus shows: NO TEXT NO TEXT .. when, should be Options File ... its a qt problem?? Please, help me :) That sounds like an old problem (why do they always come back?) What happens is someone --purges a .deb that provides ui_standards.rc, thus deleting it. At least, that what happened with me, I think. - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE90mWFEHLN/FXAbC0RAlyOAJ9P5wTS8RHeIHYqN0WkxHYNuzQEtACg60m6 /MM1QQwc/r6jZCBBuCtwAiA= =WTvz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE and security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 06 November 2002 05:55 am, Russell Coker wrote: For /tmp/ksocket-user and /tmp/.ICE-unix, will KDE use an environment variable for specifying the tmp directory? If so it shouldn't be difficult to solve this. Also what is the point of the .ICE-unix directory anyway? Speak to the kde-kiosk guys about this. It's a question that comes up everyonce in a while, but I don't remember the answer. IOW, you could probably go through their list archives. But the .DCOPserver* files are a more serious problem. IMHO the core code should be changed to put them somewhere more appropriate. I'd be happy to offer a patch if someone's interested in merging it (either in Debian packages or upstream). See above. While we're at it, the error handling in QT could probably be improved. If you are denied access to create ~/.qt/.qtrc.lock then trying it four times is not going to get you access... IIRC, this is because of crappy nfs issues. I.e., it is quite possible to be denied access the first couple times and allowed the third, simply because so many nfs implementations suck :-( Note that I am explicitly including linux's here... - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9ySUcEHLN/FXAbC0RAlolAJ0blnfiaxiCuG2p3lV9CWvsHgNhcACg8PG7 KkssMsdYynPZ631DGKMZCp8= =CYiu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Packaging a KDevelop project for debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 01 October 2002 07:09 am, Dan Boresjo wrote: Hi, I am currently developing a project using KDevelop (v2.1, as distributed with debian/stable) and would like to produce a well-behaved .deb (ie that can be installed on stable systems without having to fetch anything else exotic, and work 'out of the box'). All my dependencies are in stable so this should be possible... Am I right in guessing that the files KDevelop generates under 'admin' are debian-specific? Is there any documentation on what they do and how to use them? No, you aren't. They are KDE specific. The documentation consists of the manuals for automake, autoconf, and possible autoheader. Currenly running 'make install' puts all the files in the wrong place (presumably the KDE standard locations). Is it correct for the debian version of KDevelop to set-up the make this way? I notice there is a 'make RPM' menu item but no 'make DEB'. Hint: It would be really nice to have such a menu item! It's correct, in that nobody has coded something for KDevelop to automatically make proper, or even improper, .debs. I would suggest going through the Debian maintainer's documentation available at debian.org, as there are a couple of very good walkthroughs of making your first debian package. Once you do it a couple of times, it gets to be pretty easy. HTH and HAND! - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9maSJEHLN/FXAbC0RAoRlAJ9h+FBUKcbO37brhu8YFcLHqBNaTwCfRixL 1PSom2WxfJhvUN3fAiaPd1k= =6aTE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Project planning sofware for KDE3 + Debian testing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 22 September 2002 03:12 pm, Charles de Miramon wrote: Le Dimanche 22 Septembre 2002 21:45, Rachel Andrew a écrit : Hi I have just installed KDE3 on Debian testing - the various instructions I found posted on the web as a result of searching here helped tremendously. Anyway, with KDE2.2 I was using a package called KFocus to do simple project planning, that doesn't appear to have a version for KDE3 and I wondered if anyone had any recommendations for similar applications? TIA Rachel As far asI know, there is no stable KDE Project management application. The development of KPlato is going very slowly... Maybe you should look the Gnome Mrproject or Toutdoux I just thought that other people might be interested in this as well. I ported KFocus to kde3 yesterday, and emailed Rachel off-list with the .deb. It seems to work for her, so if anyone else wants a copy off it, mail me, and I'll send it to you, too. HAND! - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9jxVEEHLN/FXAbC0RAlSlAKC5vveqbrWfwiAN3R6f0JIrRo+HigCfY7Hc HJIRsRPdQLco7GXqNiU8F/4= =VYcC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Project planning sofware for KDE3 + Debian testing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 23 September 2002 01:00 pm, you wrote: I just thought that other people might be interested in this as well. I ported KFocus to kde3 yesterday, and emailed Rachel off-list with the .deb. It seems to work for her, so if anyone else wants a copy off it, mail me, and I'll send it to you, too. Hi, I would be very interrested. Thank you Michel. In the meantime, at the request of Ralf, I uploaded the package to ftp://ftp.kde.org/incoming/stable/KDE3.x. You can get it from there, or, (presumably) it will be rolled into the group of packages available at ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.3/Debian. - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9j3chEHLN/FXAbC0RAtmRAJ9eiyn2GQIbSCORXykVD/0Q/ehi9wCgtJwW or+vWzuUxjxIz2KgtY2wvQA= =iSUY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 12 September 2002 07:00 pm, Charles Logan wrote: If you don't want to have to kickstart artsd like this, have it startup when you log in, and set the timeout value in kcontrol-Sound-Sound Server to something very low (mine is 3 seconds). Wine et. al. should still work and your system sounds will work from the get-go. Thanks for the reply, David! I think you're right on there. In experimenting a bit, here's what I discovered. In sound preferences, I have 'start arts server at startup' unchecked. As such, there is no system sounds, but I can use Windows media player under Wine and video/audio works great in it. If I go ahead and play a wav with noatun, xmms... any program, at that point artsd is off and running, and stays running. If I then try using Wine/Mplayer, it errors out as the driver Wine is using is for OSS. If I kill artsd, I'm back to the beginning, no system sounds, but Wine is fat, dumb and happy again. There is an arts driver for Wine that I've tried, but the version I had was a bit buggy and caused more problems than it solved. So, unless there's an option to use artsd only when needed, and have it unload when not, it a matter of utilizing whichever sound setup is needed for the program wanting to be used, ie: killing artsd manually if it's running and I'm going to use a Windows app. Definitly not the end of the world... at least it's making a bit of sense to me now. Thanks again! Um, that's *exactly* what I was saying with regards to the timeout: after 3 seconds, artsd gives up the soundcard, and other apps can use it. Though, it may only work if you don't have system sounds on, as whatever process plays the system sounds could be constantly polling artsd, keeping it active. As I said, I don't use them, so I don't know :-) To test that, goto KControl-Sound-System Notifications-Disable All Sounds (at the bottom). Then set your timeout to something small (it's the Autosuspend if idle for x seconds option in the Sound Server module, use 10 or less). Then, wait the ten seconds after playing something in noatun, and see if your wine apps works, using the OSS driver. HTH! - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gTkuEHLN/FXAbC0RAuP1AJ9wacO2wmHdRHYwVcqQBc50sfWKLwCg1yyU TV49FGISNBsQmAZxE5JJ0GM= =ommY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
compatability and compilers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As it might have some bearing on a problem I'm having, what *exact* compiler were the current 3.0.3 packages compiled with? - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9eRxPEHLN/FXAbC0RAm6LAJwI376WlwkZOxFQNYTAt56CqxxWxACeJIvH 8UnDEftcDjBhNZjwJDzT3O4= =g91o -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Wanted: text editor where word wrap does not insert newline
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would welcome suggestions for strong text editors with a no newline implementation of word wrap. in your .vimrc: set wrap Odd that kate can't do that though... *shrug* - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9dkpGEHLN/FXAbC0RAj42AKC1niXje+iBdAxJ4Nl2zZackCk/tQCbB45I jsM3qcqJyK/8Omq4UEVp2SY= =PnUd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: slooooooow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 July 2002 04:52 am, Frank Van Damme wrote: On Saturday 27 July 2002 23:24, John Gay wrote: On Sat 27 Jul 2002 21:59, Frank Van Damme wrote: Yow Just put my hd (maxtor 40 gigs 5400 rpm for therecord - that's also the one I swap to) into a p133 (48 MB ram) because my athlon cpu burnt. This is your problem ^^^ KDE requires quite a large amount of memory to run. If you consider that X takes at least 16M to itself that does not leave much for KDE to use. My daughter is running KDE2.1 on a 166PentiumMMX with 64M and get 'useable' performance from it. I would not even like to try running KDE in less than 64M. I would rather say that the bottleneck is the software :-) . I remember having konqueror, kmail, pan (gnome stuff), kword, then some instant messaging clients and a ton of Eterms open. Now I can bring the box to it's knees with just kmail alone. Basically, something's wrong. This should not be happening. KDE3 *is* leaner than KDE2, with (iirc) only a couple exceptions, having to do with fonts (aa, true-type, something like that). Maybe try playing around with that (en/dis-abling AA, not using tt, etc). Good luck! - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9RUT5EHLN/FXAbC0RAssmAJ9TdBhkcbMMVSpSdSzSZkK7MjrRBACgoRvQ 5qZg7xmNUoJ7yDhaPKahND8= =Ckhp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slooooooow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe you meant for this to go to the list? As I'm not the one having the problem :-) Make sure you have dma enabled on your harddrive ( man hdparm ). Cheers, Sean. - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9RUjlEHLN/FXAbC0RAjxeAJ9tzY8HgyX0TGCcdCvS7Hl14xax2wCgx0Jq uH/NZO38tEq3ULM2UlU5AbI= =Pnfo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 12 July 2002 03:40 pm, Chris Cheney wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 02:10:47PM -0700, Jon Ellis wrote: Does anyone know when KDE 3.1 will be released under Debian? Jon Probably not too long after it is actually released period. :P Well (and maybe this is what Jon meant) is anyone planning on packaging up the beta releases? I don't think anyone should bother with the alphas (too much of a moving target), but at least with Ivan, there was a tradition of putting the last few betas and release canidates through sid, or up on people.debian.org. Obviously, as I'm not volunteering to do the packaging and maintainence myself, this is a simple query, not a demand :-) Have a great weekend! - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9L14nEHLN/FXAbC0RAirFAJ4xuPcEMPt/D5cHr5uM2UtZCsbHVQCgv27o JHcIkHlLh7095CEeWRO9Ozg= =HrTG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE3.x and SID
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 June 2002 11:48 am, Wolfgang Ratzka wrote: Am Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 19:42 schrieb G. L. `Griz' Inabnit: I haven't seen an announcement when the KDE 3.x debs will be integrated into SID. Did I somehow miss this posting?? Would http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200205/msg00186.html fit the bill? Hello Wolfgang (and list), No, not really. I was wondering when it would INCLUDED into the existing distrubition (e.g. SID/unstable). I prefer to work ONLY with what is actually in the 'released distro' as I have a number of clients that are running Deb/KDE and I would pay (with blood most likely) if we attempted to update all the existing machines to KDE 3 outside of the release. Way way WAY too much time and energy involved. But Thank You for the responce and assist! Griz, how you doing? Send me an email off-list, and we'll chat. On topic, that email *does* answer your question. Chris specifically states: I will not be uploading debs to incoming until after the gcc 3.0.1 transition which supposedly will happen within a month. Seeing as he sent that message on May 24th, that means that kde3 will be hitting unstable in (roughly) 2-3 weeks (depending on when the 3.1 switch happens). You need ta get sum reedin glasses B-) - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/8siEHLN/FXAbC0RAm6gAJ9zlZBfoFBpuF3Bp7kFiSbI4GBqmQCgn7ZY ljKpstZWOs6dvy2mlXN1xJY= =XMZd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [KDE3] Optimizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 09 April 2002 9:03 am, Bastian Voigt wrote: Hi, to summarize this discussion, can we give a definite recommendation for how to get best results building kde3 on debian woody? I would propose this: * use gcc 2.95.4 * don't use objprelink unless you know what you are doing * CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS: -pipe -march=i686 -ffast-math -finline-functions -fomit-frame-pointer * configure options: --enable-fast-malloc=full --enable-debug=no --disable-debug \ --prefix=/usr/local/kde Have I forgotten to mention anything? Bastian - --enable-final - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8sveBEHLN/FXAbC0RAn/EAKDa++kYXCT/isHGS40O2HaSl4R/4wCfULDB 19P0Ojobgf/6YD/xePZDkbU= =Pz62 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating ~/.kde from KDE2 to KDE3
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On Tuesday 09 April 2002 8:47 am, Justin R. Miller wrote:
Hello,
I'm one of the folks who's busy compiling KDE3 at the moment. I tried
RCs 2 and 3 with a new user ('kde3user') and all was find and good.
However, with final, I'd like to migrate my regular user.
I just want to get an idea of what concerns there might be regarding
when the Sid packages come out for KDE3, i.e. should I be worried about
~/.kde changes or anything like that? And how well does KDE3 handle the
migration of your configurations? Can anyone share any experience?
I have found that it seems to work tolerably well. HOWEVER, please make a
backup of your .kde before starting kde3, and you'll always have an escape
route :-) Just cp .kde .kde.BAK worked for me.
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D.A.Bishop
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Re: Kdevelop no longer compiles multi-source program?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 April 2002 10:56 am, John Gay wrote: I realise this is more of a Kdevelop problem, but I know a few people here use it so. . . After serveral problems, I've finally got my desktop mostly working. I decided to play with kdevelop again. As I recently got some books on OpenGL, I decided to try to add some graphics to my project. To keep things simple, I created a new project, copied the files I needed from the original project and then modified main.c to use OpenGL. When I tried to build my project, kdevelop can't seem to compile multi-source programs properly, though it's probably more a fault with one of the auto* tools used. Try running make clean ./configure first. It looks like it thinks it's already compiled everything, and just needs to link, which is wrong :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8rf/cEHLN/FXAbC0RAvlIAKDEub08rrttoscRP0pgGKVkB484qwCfeN0+ kcUG7j1EmIgcMUp5cZcjueQ= =1wDV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kdevelop no longer compiles multi-source program?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 05 April 2002 1:13 pm, John Gay wrote: On Fri 05 Apr 2002 20:49, David Bishop wrote: Try running make clean ./configure first. It looks like it thinks it's already compiled everything, and just needs to link, which is wrong :-) snip And, after that long list of configureing, it still failed. I tried removing the config.cache, same results? Somewhere, it is forgetting to compile the sources to objects. There are no .o's in the sources directory. What packages should I check the versions on? and what versions should they be? kdevelop is 2.0.2, but what other packages shoudl I check? Thanks for the info! Well, honestly, bugger if I know :-) I've never had kdevelop forget something on me before. And the versions of you software will match mine if you're running the latest sid, so that isn't an issue. About all I can recommend is trying it (again) from scratch: create a new project, make sure it compiles (just the normal test stuff), and then import your other source files. Remember, however, if you are going to be using opengl, to add -lgl to the linking stage (adding libs is under the project options). HTH and HAND. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE8rgYxEHLN/FXAbC0RAs/5AKCVZQGWJTqLh7TMF+iwqmnHJyo2+QCXUO5a tXlWxubAEGtxOi8aonbqyQ== =t03l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't see bottom of dialog box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 03 April 2002 1:03 am, BROWN Nick wrote: I think many of us have been in this stage before. The trick is that you can use the ALT+LEFT_CLICK on your mouse to move any window anywhere on your desktop. Hope that helps. Well now, I'd tried that, and it didn't work. I assumed that maybe KDE had disabled this X feature for some reason. So I used the Virtual trick. However, a friend has now pointed out that this is meant to work in KDE. So I went into Preferences, Look and Feel, Window Behavior, Actions, and there it is. But it doesn't work out of the box. You have to make a change - say, change the Modifier Key from Alt to Meta and back again - then click Apply. And then it works. This strikes me as a bug... can anyone else reproduce it ? For me it works on the border of the window with alt, and anywhere in the window with the windows key. Dunno if that's the *intended* behavior, but there you go :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qxNeEHLN/FXAbC0RAuHwAJwK+VoYmc9pYy3YM51YtiWTq7/0bQCg8naN pJbJ5FI8ALrPlTb9PWj2fW4= =nvSB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0rc3 Debs???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not sure that in general there are really enough improvements to actually be worthy of a change in major release number (from 2.x to 3.x) because it feels more like a 2.3 release than a 3.0. The KDE 2.2 debs (Woody anyway) were just as fast in my experience. Unless there is anything you desperately need in KDE 3, I wouldn't rush madly to upgrade until the debs are made. Well, the reason they went to 3.0 is because of the binary-incompatability changes. The whole point of 3 what to switch to qt3 and cleanup any cruft left-over from their first attempts at the dcop/kpart solution. So, there wasn't supposed to be *major* changes, just ones that can't be made between, say, 2.1.1 and 2.2. As for the speed difference, are you using self-compiled bins, or pre-release .debs? I ask, because (supposedly) compiling things yourself causes a speedup, and that's what I did :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qxcwEHLN/FXAbC0RArOmAJ42rdZL8VWRFYfNKy1AaFhs7MveyACdH3ur 2C80RGgeLqw6yLxd8GOTR0c= =Wwc1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Users on KDM logon screen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In kcontrol, goto system-login manager. Configure to your hearts content. On Tuesday 02 April 2002 7:31 am, BROWN Nick wrote: Warning: newbie, please flame gently... I checked the archives (quickly) but didn't find this. Just did a dist-upgrade on unstable and got new everything, notably KDE 2.2.2. [Actually KDE broke quite badly, but after several rounds of --force-overwrite and renaming a number of .dpkg-tmp files, it all settled down.] Now KDM's logon screen shows every user from /etc/passwd. It didn't before... can something be done to limit it to real users ? I have a small screen (height = 480) on my Vaio C1VE and the icons push the username, password, and buttons off the bottom of the screen. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qcGVEHLN/FXAbC0RApu/AKDHkjlIrL7ZTh+nVwPztHS24nWKsACfbN6X GDbMoZskzchiCLldDYvPI1g= =9X8u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0rc3 Debs???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A very *big*, incremental upgrade :-) KMail's imap is much cleaner/faster/stronger. gpg is much improved, with color-bars, point/click key selection (no copy/pasting!), server-side pop filters (so you don't have to even download large emails), etc. Konq's javascript rocks the house (see recent /. article :-). DHTML rendering seems much improved, along with normal stuff. It's also tons faster (both to startup and browse). Konsole has some nifty enhancments (you can now rearrange the tabs, more/better options for colors, double-clicking for select). arts/noatun works on my soundcard with no patches (didn't before), and seems to be a lot more stable. Basically, it's very cool, with only a couple regressions (I know there are some, I just can't think of them right now :-), and very much worth the wait. Oh, KPilot still sucks B) But I'm working on that... (actually, you interrupted me w/this mail. I'm almost done with xml-exporting :-). HTH and HAND! D.A.Bishop On Tuesday 02 April 2002 3:38 pm, you wrote: Hey David, So, how is kde3, since you've been playing w/ it? Is it a big improvement, or just an incremental upgrade? Cheers, Sheldon. On April 1, 2002 02:31 pm, David Bishop wrote: On Monday 01 April 2002 1:25 pm, Daniel Rees wrote: On Monday 01 Apr 2002 7:09 pm, David Bishop wrote: Having said that, I compiled kde3 locally following the kde2+3 tutorial on women.kde.org, and am enjoying the hell out of it :-) However, I plan on rm -fR'ing my /usr/local/kde3 as soon as .debs are available, as apt-get makes my life so much easier. I feel like playing with the CVS until the .debs are available - how are people compiling from CVS? Using dpkg-buildpackage, or ./configure; make; make install? I literally followed step for step the women.kde.org tutorial. In effect, the ./configure make make install, partitioned off into /usr/local/kde3 for easy removal later. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qjMAEHLN/FXAbC0RAoyqAKCU9Or9Ofp6rSCrlm6s2x3d4SIJFgCfTcSZ LpGUV6Y2isGvWpVd36qD0LM= =ipRH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0rc3 Debs???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 01 April 2002 1:25 pm, Daniel Rees wrote: On Monday 01 Apr 2002 7:09 pm, David Bishop wrote: Having said that, I compiled kde3 locally following the kde2+3 tutorial on women.kde.org, and am enjoying the hell out of it :-) However, I plan on rm -fR'ing my /usr/local/kde3 as soon as .debs are available, as apt-get makes my life so much easier. I feel like playing with the CVS until the .debs are available - how are people compiling from CVS? Using dpkg-buildpackage, or ./configure; make; make install? I literally followed step for step the women.kde.org tutorial. In effect, the ./configure make make install, partitioned off into /usr/local/kde3 for easy removal later. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qLWHEHLN/FXAbC0RAsDKAJ9dsHSJbkSVkuFEJzrrR/Lqu8l0bgCgvmOb 3msuVHQyOqCg75mnPtOLKXw= =2LJl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KPilot and theme questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 28 March 2002 4:50 am, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: 1. I'm trying to use my Palm IIIx with Linux and KDE. Whenever I attempt to hotsync, my Palm always complains that the connection timed out with KDE after starting (I do start KPilot and it does start the hotsync). However, I've reset the Palm and tried to hotsync with Gnome and it works fine. Please go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They can help you out with this. 2. I've tried going to http://www.themes.org/ and navigate to their KDE themes page, but it keeps timing out. I FTP'd into ftp.themes.org/pub/themes/kde and downloaded everythign they have there. But, when I try to install them, just about _all_ of them are lacking .themerc or some other file that's necessary. Where can I download some decent themes for KDE? www.kde-look.org - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oylxEHLN/FXAbC0RAg3GAJ0UslfGHKhB45nuMHyfZH6gcuCS0gCgjIdL kAXYLyta7967FY668hUYS+I= =mEeK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: [Kde-pim] Distro's packagers: kdepim/kpilot broken
FYI to the kde3 packagers out there. Note that this is a complete turn around from my previous email on kpilot, where I suggested shipping the 3.0 kpilot with 2.2 because of how screwed up that version is. Well, guess what, they're both broken :-( Hopefully this will change in the very near future, but seeing as there are only 1 and 1/10th people working on kpilot at all, there are no garuntees... D.A.Bishop -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [Kde-pim] Distro's packagers: kdepim/kpilot broken Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:36:44 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Due to personal reasons, development on kdepim/kpilot hasn't been very active or structured the past few months. The month of march, preparing for RC3 final, was a total write-off as far as development is concerned for kdepim/kpilot. The upshot of this is that KPilot in HEAD is in an unreleasable state. Now I know that KDE 3.0 is theoretically just libs base, but packagers and distro's have the tendency to include all the other CVS modules as well. So I'd like to warn them that KPilot from HEAD as of today will compile but will crash with undefined symbols on just about all of its plugins. So *don't* package KPilot right now, leave it for 3.0.1 when I hope I've had time to work on it again. Since I have no idea how to reach the various packagers and distro people (except for FreeBSD) I'm sending this to the general KDE lists and hope someone picks it up. [ade] -- +--++ + Adriaan de Groot + Project: FRESCoS + + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + Kamer A6020 tel. 024 3652272 + http://www.cs.kun.nl/~adridg/frescos/ + ___ kde-pim mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim kde-pim home page at http://pim.kde.org/ --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Enabling write in SMB-kioslave
On Monday 25 March 2002 01:37 pm, Hendrik Sattler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 25. März 2002 20:50 schrieb Macolu: Le Lundi 25 Mars 2002 20:45, Chris Howells a écrit : The KDE 3.0 ioslave actually uses its own version of libsmb to enable writing. OK, good news ! No, bad news. Even one more lib that only KDE uses because they cannot get sorted with the samba team? IIRC, all the kde team did was lift the library straight out of the samba -unstable branch. So, as soon as a stable version of samba starts shipping with the right library, kde quietly drops their version. That's all, no code duplication or wasted effort. So yes, this is a good thing :-) D.A.Bishop -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Screensaver Timeout Suggestion - Comments ?
Is this suggestion worth making ? (It's just a convenience feature.) If so, do I do that by submitting a KDE bug report with severity level = wishlist ? Yes and yes. Sorry to be terse, but I'm in a hurry :-) D.A.Bishop
Re: scp (secure copy) and konqueror?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 apt-get install kio-fish, then use fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 19 March 2002 08:09 am, Olaf Stetzer wrote: Hello, I am wondering if ther is a way to use konqueror to browse remote filesystems via ssh? I already tried different URL-types (ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED], sftp://... scp://...) but always get a search result from google. Is there a way to use konqueror over ssh at all or do I need other programs? Olaf - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8l1xVEHLN/FXAbC0RAgIfAKCXwDcn6qPVE5YkG5JNsQvjAw0dVgCgo411 SsbVbdfCqpm+UyAIj6pPnHs= =i5ED -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kamera + USB permissions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 18 March 2002 12:38 pm, Jay Kline wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 12:33 pm, Jens Benecke wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:00:40AM +0200, Jarno Elonen wrote: I just tried Kamera after quite a long time and it actually worked. Thank you! It isn't, however, very feasible to use because the device file is owned by root: you always have to change its permissions manually before starting Kamera as a non-root user. I found a small daemon called usb-perms (and packaged it into a .deb That's what DEVFS (device file system) is for. If you use 2.4 kernels and have devfs compiled in, the /dev tree will be maintained as an 'in memory' file system, with things like nodes, permissions, etc. (also for not yet existing nodes) saved in /etc/devfsd/perms and associated files. But USB devices are not in the /dev tree.. they are in proc. They show up in /proc/bus/usb/ The few usb device files in /dev/ are for use with particular drivers (the usb-printers, etc) That is not any more right than saying that interrupts reside in /proc/interrupts. The /proc/bus/usb tree is only an informational way of showing you what usb devices are present, they are not the actual device files. Those still reside in /dev/*usb* or /dev/usb/* (depending on whether you use devfs or not). - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8llBAEHLN/FXAbC0RAohaAKC2V6Hb8d6DRlG0tzN8y/JVRrMz3gCgmTNm Yc9kruOo50DRDFgRv9Ibnok= =gPXS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE status update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I didn't even think of this, but are you using the 2_2_BRANCH of kpilot or current cvs? The reason I ask, is that (unfortunetly!) the 2.2.2 branch is completely broken for most people*. The current cvs compiles and runs fine for both 3.0 and 2.2.2**, and is the only one supported. There are other problems (most of the conduits don't work correctly), but it can at least backup/restore all devices, and actually works for usb devices. I would *highly* recommend using that instead of the old code. In order to compile the new code, do a cvs checkout of kdepim -r 2_2_BRANCH, then rm -fR kdepim/kpilot, and cvs co kdepim/kpilot, all before running make - -f Makefile.cvs. I would be *very* interested if this doesn't compile under gcc3.0 for any given platform. If this isn't a solution, I will try and work with Adriaan to fix the other error, but of course I can't promise anything :( *That is, usb-support is almost useless, most conduits are flacky, backup and restore are iffy **That is a stated design goal for the next release of KPilot, and I am personally the one responsible for making sure it stays 2.2.* compatible :-) On Wednesday 06 March 2002 05:55 pm, Chris Cheney wrote: On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:34:06PM -0700, David Bishop wrote: What gcc 3.0 issues? I'm on pretty good terms with the kpilot developer, and would be willing to do some leg work to get this into woody. And not having korganizer, kpilot, knotes, etc, would suck :-) - -- D.A.Bishop Please take a look at this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/133697 http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?pkg=kdepimver=4%3A2.2.2-4arch=hppast amp=1008870358file=logas=raw It does not compile at all on HPPA which is an arch that intends to ship with woody, which makes it an RC bug. : Thanks, Chris this looks like it might be the culprit: c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/include/qt -I. -I/usr/include/libpisock -I/usr/include/libpisock-DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -c kpilot.cc kpilot.cc: In destructor `virtual KPilotInstaller::~KPilotInstaller()': kpilot.cc:230: no matching function for call to `std::basic_ofstreamchar, std::char_traitschar ::basic_ofstream(int)' /usr/include/g++-v3/bits/std_iosfwd.h:84: candidates are: std::basic_ofstreamchar, std::char_traitschar ::basic_ofstream(const std::basic_ofstreamchar, std::char_traitschar ) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8h5MGEHLN/FXAbC0RAlfbAJ9x6V/CNbtyUbE2A7kuKmgghzZ93QCgkR5n b/sKdbVU6+x4/E/cUvcQ4zs= =NmT+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kdevelop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Are you running potato, woody, or sid? Have you apt-get upgraded to the lastest? Has this recently started, after working fine, or did you just try it for the first time? On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:50 am, Marc Muller wrote: Hello I can not start a new project in kdevelop. The icons appears on the menu, but I can't click on it. It is the same in the menu. What should I do ? - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8h6k2EHLN/FXAbC0RAoNkAKCa1TPEN8laZDCko6iSAVCrICnMIwCg11Nf 9BxljCVLZ3MQ5wxYl1LsCm8= =S1HR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kmail issue/problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 IIRC, Yahoo does a check-before-send sort of authentication, so you *should* be able to just check your mail, then send, and have it work fine. That meshes with the authentication required message. If that doesn't fix it, then, uh, I dunno :-) On Thursday 07 March 2002 01:14 pm, Dan DeVries wrote: Hi, Has anyone else had this problem before I upgraded to sid my Kmail worked perfect but you might notice I'm using Mutt to send this message on a different machine. I can download my mail from yahoo no problem but when I send mail I always get and I quote sending failed a SMTP error occured Command MAIL Response: 530 authentication required for help got to help.yahoo blah... The following transport protocol was used smtp://smtp.mail.yahoo.com:25 no doubt before I sent to this list I have been looking for help or fix it I remove Kmail and put back the old version 1.2 instead of 1.3 just incase but the problem persistes. I looked at FAQ and have tried downloading my mail and then sending whats in my queue, to authenticate but it didn't work. There is an option to store mail and send it after checking/downloading your mail. Again, it downloads my mail but errors on sending my mail. I don't get why it is authenticating to get my mail but it can't send it. Any Ideas, did I miss something? Do you need more information? Note, just in case its yahoo I used Mozilla 0.9.8 and it sent my mail By the way other than this KDE works great and just wanted to say what a great job you guys do. Thanks, Dan -- output from gpg gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) gpg: armor header: Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org gpg: Signature made Thu Mar 7 13:14:38 2002 MST using DSA key ID A8C55D1E gpg: requesting key A8C55D1E from wwwkeys.pgp.net ... gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found -- end of gpg output --- - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8h9ZmEHLN/FXAbC0RAjh1AKDROz6IuihJRNeGT1SOz8wuPIgl/wCgjxyR d7Bjf9EveCOp/uisP9tr57g= =cL+l -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE status update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 06 March 2002 02:51 pm, Chris Cheney wrote: kdelibs - should go into woody once m68k builds kdebase - should go into woody once m68k, arm, mips builds kdeadmin - should go into woody once arm, m68k, s390, sparc builds kdegraphics - needs new upload to remove kamera kdemultimedia - needs build on all arch kdenetwork- should go into woody once alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k, sparc kdepim- only god can save this package[*] kdeutils - needs new upload to remove ark So it may still be possible for KDE to make it into woody, but it looks like kamera, ark, and kdepim will be casualties. Chris * If anyone knows how to fix the gcc 3.0 issues with kdepim please do so asap. What gcc 3.0 issues? I'm on pretty good terms with the kpilot developer, and would be willing to do some leg work to get this into woody. And not having korganizer, kpilot, knotes, etc, would suck :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8hpleEHLN/FXAbC0RAngzAJwKHAQ57nmpxLT2bNIZoUidbEZu7wCdGTmX /CyjvHmcPucu72WzsrXW98Y= =8/dX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: konqueror and CA-certificates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 01 March 2002 09:54 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Freitag, 1. März 2002 01:54 schrieb Andreas Goesele: Hi, if I want to load a CA-certificate into Netscape or galeon I just open a link to that certificate (application/x-x509-ca-cert, file ending crt) and Netscape/galeon automatically start a process in which I can accept this certificate. How would I do that in Konqueror (2.2.2)? Is it possible? I thought I could do it with Crypto - Your certificates - Import, but firstly that doesn't accept non-local certificates and if I download one and open it locally Konqueror asks for the certificate password, which I do not know. (Maybe this Import serves another purpose altogether - in the Konqueror manual there is no explanation.) Sure, you need the pass. Normally you only have certificated of servers you visited at least once (with Konq. or Kmail or whatever). Then it simply asks you, if you want ot accept it. What sense does it make to do that manually? You misunderstood. The main problem is that konqueror does not support 3rd party CA-certs without jumping though a *lot* of hoops. This is on the konqueror security guy's todo list, but afaik, has not been addressed yet. Maybe somebody running beta2 can inform us differently. *Because* it doesn't permenetly accept the certificates, each time you hit the website (or mail server for pops), it asks *again* if you want to accept it, even if you select Forever. This is a known bug, and unfortunetly not one with a good work around. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8f+vWEHLN/FXAbC0RAt3SAJ9bj8nLej2Vmd2Zc1NZQ6eQkUZCcgCfYpaI WMI2J7WFfVH2c2J31fwveoA= =gbjY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Little Konqueror Irritations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 23 February 2002 07:37 am, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: Secondly, the reason I'm using it so much, I have the following in my No Proxy for list: *.sun.ac.za This doesn't work. See http://bugs.kde.org/db/16/16136.html Hmm, pity a fix will possibly not be in time for Woody? :-\ Take out the *. I.e., I have no proxy for localhost and micron.com, and that covers all sub-hosts as well. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8elIlEHLN/FXAbC0RAt7GAJ4vvlz1MlSFaj6ZyYpeFpaM9wUnQACg0XLD Vhcy4nzxBwxp7QbUyW4KjtU= =6/l2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kspread issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 February 2002 12:09 am, Russell Coker wrote: Firstly, how do you stop kspread and other koffice programs from creating backup files? My father doesn't like having lots of .ksp~ files appearing in his directories. He says that he always saves when he has something important so he gains nothing from this, it just wasts his (my) disk space and he wants to turn it off. Dunno, sorry (I hate that crap too, and turn it off in vim) Next how do you change the settings for a new kspread sheet? My father doesn't like the font size and wants new documents to be created with a different size. It appears to use the general font from kcontrol (under look/feel-fonts). Change that to whatever you want. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8dQbtEHLN/FXAbC0RAuE3AJ9DPUzulaGaGcsHmlHfOPnfsPPjjgCgpwrt GVA1vc1QFKE+rWmFgG43/QA= =TFxn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Postscript PDF view print with CUPS - howto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 24 January 2002 11:57 pm, tluxt wrote: --- Jens Benecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:46:17PM -0800, tluxt wrote: I apt-get -s install ghostscript - apt-get says it's mentioned, but not available. OK. I would recommend gs-aladdin. It's more recent and contains more drivers, but it's in non-free. How easy would it be for me to find out on my own specifically what its 'non-freenes is? How would I find that out, if it's fairly easy to find out? If you just want to know if a specific package is free/non-free, apt-cache (again!) is your friend: apt-cache show gs-aladdin prints out a bunch of info, including (near the top): Section: non-free/text If you want the actual license, then yes, the /usr/share/doc/foo/ directory will always hold the text of the license. Perhaps this answers that question: Description: The Ghostscript Postscript interpreter This version is Aladdin copyright, not GNU copyleft, see /usr/share/doc/gs-aladdin/copyright. So, I install kghostview, run it, select file - Open, select the file in the directory that has been created by Xpdf, and the page shows up perfectly in the preview window of the file selection window. But when I click OK to open it a signal 11 occurs. :(. This seems to be a bug. File one and include a backtrace. I haven't had this happen to me yet. Q5) Does the Kghostview sig 11's when trying to open a .ps file created by the 'print' of Xpdf, although the file is displayed fine (text images) in the open dialog preview window sound like a bug that ought to be submitted on the kghostview package? Hm. Does it crash when you print it, or when you open it, or when gs renders it, or when gs renders it to the printer, or ...? It happens instantly after I click the ok button that tells it to open the file. snip Back traces unfortunetly don't tell many tales, when they've been compiled without debug information (as almost all binary distrobutions do). Does that suggest anything? (or, perhaps I need to send the file I'm trying to open, along with that to the packager?) I'm still suspecting that this is the same problem others on the list are having. Look at the archives if you've missed them, follow their suggestions, and then, if that doesn't work, file a bug with the packager, along with the offending .ps script. And finally, try opening the original .pdf with kghostview, to see if that works (it should). HTH and HAND! - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8UZr9EHLN/FXAbC0RAq7vAKDwlm8jL3mpC5Y7ha8C26anyxuenwCgyxTv GnSY/jJL0KRaL9cK3fX+nSM= =X6ZE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Postscript PDF view print with CUPS - howto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Man, you must like making me type :-)] On Thursday 24 January 2002 12:46 am, tluxt wrote: Several things here. 1st - Thanks to everyone's help on CUPS for KDE. I've now got CUPS printing a test page perfectly on an Epson color inkjet. I've got Konq printing the KDE home page, etc. I can print from Kwrite. Were you going to make a summary, and send it to the debian doc folks? That would be awfully nifty of you Now: So, I want to view and print PDF files. Q1) What is the suggested/best way (other than asking someone, like in this list) to find, on one's own, the appropriate sw to use under the KDE system? This also answers Q3, but apt-cache search is your friend. For instance, if I was looking for a pdf viewer related to kde, I would try the following two commands: $ apt-cache search kde | grep -i pdf which returns nothing. Then, I would try $ apt-cache search pdf | grep -i kde which returns kghostview. To see what kghostview is, I would run $apt-cache show kghostview which gives a nice, consise description. Bingo, install it. I apt-get -s install ghostscript - apt-get says it's mentioned, but not available. OK. In this case, run: $ apt-cache search ghostscript This returns 51 hits. Too many. So, filter by: apt-cache search ghostscript | grep -i ghostscript This will remove any packages that just depend on ghostscript, or are otherwise related, but not core. This gets it down to 15, the very first one of which is gs, with a description of The Ghostscript Postscript interpreter Luck - a recent post on this list mentioning kghostview. apt-get -s install kghostview - shows a depends on gs. Ah. How was I supposed to know the package name in Debian of ghostscript is gs? See above :) So, I install kghostview, run it, select file - Open, select the file in the directory that has been created by Xpdf, and the page shows up perfectly in the preview window of the file selection window. But when I click OK to open it a signal 11 occurs. :(. There were also some posts recently about people having problems with kghostview. I'm not having those problems, but YMMV. See if their fixes apply to you. Q2) What's the best tool for viewing printing PDF files using the KDE desktop? Kghostview. Kghostview can also view/print pdf files natively, as they are (basically) a subset/extention of ps. Q3) How does one find out a list of all the KDE related sw that is available in the Debian system but isn't installed by doing an install of KDE? (Such as kghostview.) $ apt-cache search kde | more That lists 300 packages on my install, plenty to start just browsing. Q3) Why, when I installed kghostview, was the package NOT added to my KDE K/start menu of programs? - Wouldn't that be expected? On mine, it's listed under graphics as PS/PDF Viewer. Q4) Why, when I installed Xpdf, was that not added to the K menu? (Under perhaps a debian section)? Again, it's listed on mine under graphics - viewers - xpdf. Q5) Does the Kghostview sig 11's when trying to open a .ps file created by the 'print' of Xpdf, although the file is displayed fine (text images) in the open dialog preview window sound like a bug that ought to be submitted on the kghostview package? If the previously posted fixes don't work for you, yes. Ok, so now I run gs, and it opens the .pdf file. Ok, so now I've found and am reading the gs docs. There's a lot there. Yes :-) Overwhelming much, in my experience... Q6) How do I print a page in the gs view window, to the CUPS default printer p1, when I started gs from the command line with gs docname.pdf? This, I don't know. I can always print straight from kghostview :-P Thanks! As always, your help here will help others by going into the KDE Printing Viewing HOwto which I hope to create when I get all this working. Aha! That answers *my* first question! Thanks. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8UCNCEHLN/FXAbC0RAkcMAKCqo+a61oyWYz2Rn+/G940PJnaUBgCdEyum mf1JdJ/vidl9v3FZ1mOoHUA= =ZfL5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kmail changing default web browser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 23 January 2002 09:56 am, Nigel Pauli wrote: Is there a way of changing the browser that is automatically launched when one clicks on a url from Konqueror to Opera? I'm using Kmail 1.2 on KDE 2.1.2. Thanks, Nigel edit mimetypes, change text/html's handler to opera. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8TuxTEHLN/FXAbC0RAgU7AKCZhnA8xqWimh1qlellEoUyDAD/zgCgn+1r O+pR9YVBOCUZJIpr4ttIJSE= =9t8I -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: konqueror freez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I can go on the assumption that you are using anti-aliased text, and therefore the render extension, and that when you say konqueror freezes, you mean your whole desktop, then you have been bitten by the infamous render extension and long lines of text bug. If not, then it's something new and feel free to file a (more detailed) bug report at bugs.kde.org. HTH and HAND. On Sunday 20 January 2002 09:09 am, Regnat Nikolaus wrote: When I try to write a *really* long line of text in a linux forum (link provided below) konqueror freezes. This is very strange - any ideas? http://www.pl-forum.de/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=NewPostPost =Board=010Idle=10Sort=0Order=DescendPage=0Session= - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SwPOEHLN/FXAbC0RAvAcAJ0V0hR1xiUBcHelNaZC8L0tZiUOgACgyk9N dy2oqDB9y0gE9cG6elrg6LI= =qf5G -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Fwd: Re: Printing in KDE - How best to - Konq, inkjet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While I appreciate the correction, this is something that should be shared with the whole list :-) As for editing the cupsd.conf, it is quite possible that if you are only running it on localhost, you won't have to do anything. I wouldn't know ;-) And I will definetly have to check out the kcontrol way of managing printers. That would be nifty.. - -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Printing in KDE - How best to - Konq, inkjet Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:25:44 +0100 From: Olaf Stetzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Samstag, 19. Januar 2002 19:56 schrieb David Bishop: (One thing I am confused about: I would like to know the procedure for getting printing running with the KDE in Woody. But, I am confused because it appears that you have described two ways to get CUPS configured and the print driver installed: One relies on the browser interface, one relies on using the KDE control panel. My mistake. I should have explained what cups is :-) Cups has a client/server setup, even when you are using soley one machine. So the first step (edit the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf) is to configure where the cups server will be listening (what ports and interfaces) and what the passwords are to connect to it. IIRC, there isn't *much* more than that. The second stage, connecting to the cups server with a web browser, is to set up the server to print to your printer, i.e., configure the driver/install the printer stage. At this stage, you can choose to print a test page, and it should come out fine. However, to tell the *clients* (i.e., the programs) what and where to connect to, you need to configure them. This is when you open up the KDE Printing dialog, and tell it to connect to the cups server on localhost, it does, it retrieves a list of printers that are configured, you select the one you set up, and now all KDE apps can automagically print to the cups server. I hope that's a slightly better explanation of what's going on :-) Are these indeed two alternative methods, or are they different functions? Ie, does the browser based setup need to be done before the KDE CUPS control panel stuff can be done? See above. Sorry if I add some corrections here, since your answer isn't clear on the last question (alternatives): Yes, the browser method and the KDE/control-panel are alternative ways of configuring cups. I did the setup for all printers I use only with the tools under the KDE-control-panel. Everything you need is the root password to commit the changes to the printer driver setup you made. I was very pleased by the KDE-printer-setup, I can hardly think of easier ways to setup a printing system BTW: I didn't touch any cups.config files by hand at all! Olaf - --- - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SwdcEHLN/FXAbC0RAhn5AKCOvnfeJH6xhxj3/fhFYEhVfp2w6wCfaobP BUiVPH9PYiom3D1DzDuP4jM= =kEWO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Printing in KDE - How best to - Konq, inkjet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 19 January 2002 02:59 am, tluxt wrote: Thanks for your help. If you can answer these few more questions, we might have the essentials for a Debian/KDE/Printing Mini-HowTo or Install Guide section. :) That would be sweet. --- David Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I am writing this email in the mode of you also not being extremely familiar with how debian does things. There's no shame there, it's big and there's a lot to learn. If you already know some of this, I apologize.] Excellent presumption. Actually, I could use slightly more detail, see below. :) No problem. I'm going to do some snipping to get this down to size, so I hope you kept my previous mail :-) My questions are for the simplest case: a stand alone workstation, connected to the internet through some means. Good. That's easy. (One thing I am confused about: I would like to know the procedure for getting printing running with the KDE in Woody. But, I am confused because it appears that you have described two ways to get CUPS configured and the print driver installed: One relies on the browser interface, one relies on using the KDE control panel. My mistake. I should have explained what cups is :-) Cups has a client/server setup, even when you are using soley one machine. So the first step (edit the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf) is to configure where the cups server will be listening (what ports and interfaces) and what the passwords are to connect to it. IIRC, there isn't *much* more than that. The second stage, connecting to the cups server with a web browser, is to set up the server to print to your printer, i.e., configure the driver/install the printer stage. At this stage, you can choose to print a test page, and it should come out fine. However, to tell the *clients* (i.e., the programs) what and where to connect to, you need to configure them. This is when you open up the KDE Printing dialog, and tell it to connect to the cups server on localhost, it does, it retrieves a list of printers that are configured, you select the one you set up, and now all KDE apps can automagically print to the cups server. I hope that's a slightly better explanation of what's going on :-) Are these indeed two alternative methods, or are they different functions? Ie, does the browser based setup need to be done before the KDE CUPS control panel stuff can be done? See above. Ie, is the browser method necessary for doing the CUPS setup, and then, once everything is set up, the control panel interaction is used to make the KDE system aware of how to let KDE apps access the printer that was set up in CUPS (using the web browser interface to the CUPS system)? ) Yes! So, if I am running the 020118 or later Woody, [The konq-help-about screen says I'm running Konq 2.2.1 on KDE 2.2.2, IIRC, and I installed it about 1 week ago.] do I need to do the browser based config, or can I skip that, do all the CUPS setup with the kdelibs3-cups procedure you mentioned at the end of your comments? No! B-) OK, Please tell me, is this procedure _exactly_ correct? (Are there any changes you suggest to this procedure?) Here is what I have done so far: 1) Do a basic Woody install (including setting up networking access) 2) Install X (from, I think it was Tasksel) 3) Install KDE (from, again, I think Tasksel) 4) At the command prompt, type startx, then log into KDE. Now, for these next steps, do I just do these apt-get's, and answer any questions asked, and that's it? Yes. Specifically: Do I need to do anythning here about dependencies/recommends/etc? _Are_ there any deps/recs? If so, do the exact apt-get lines below install an appropriate set of deps/recs/etc? Ah, new to debian I see :-) apt-get takes care of all *dependencies* for you. It doesn't necessarily take care of *recommends*, but if you apt-get install cupsys, you are gauruneteed (wow, my spelling sucks) that you will have a functional cups server. Behold: the power of apt B-) Or, do I have to do something else to get the deps/recs in? If so, what? Is this the complete set of what I need to apt-get? Which would be best? Should I apt-get these? Use dselect? Use tasksel? (Is there a CUPS task?) I always use apt-get/apt-cache, due to excessive problems with dselect. Once you get used to how apt-* works, you find that it's very powerful. For instance, if you apt-cache show cupsys, you see that it suggests: cupsys-client, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-driver-gimpprint | cupsomatic-ppd that is, *client, *bsd, and *driver-gimpprint OR cupsomatic-ppd. Whether you should get the gimp driver or ppd depends on the model of printer, and as such, you'll probably just have to try them both. You'll also note that it depends on cupsys-pstoraster, which provides the postscript2printer support you ask about
Re: Looking for 2.2.2 KDE packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 19 January 2002 11:54 am, John Dalbec wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my KDE packages to 2.2.2. I cannot find 2.2.2 versions of kaiman, keystone, ksysctrl, libminimagick5, and pixie. Are these packages obsolete? Thanks, John Yes, to all. While I don't know about the rest, pixie and keystone were dropped from KDE upstream... - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SfsaEHLN/FXAbC0RAk6vAKCTc4BRTsbWOsmVlr4V7NPG3TIrsQCgpTYd 6GHZs7DYxI7vXnC0r8JGhNo= =xcGM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: quick question (shot in the dark)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is strictly X, sorry. On Thursday 17 January 2002 04:43 am, John Magrini wrote: im not sure if kde can do anything about this, but it doesnt hurt to ask. i have already asked on the Xfree mailing lists and the advice they gave me was that the driver needs to be coded better. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SDmiEHLN/FXAbC0RAitgAKCDbLj6Kp9qG6CRoKcixeYKY6dxHwCeK/MT cBvniibeLFQyBtwiI3ghkO0= =vbWh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Printing in KDE - How best to - Konq, inkjet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [I am writing this email in the mode of you also not being extremely familiar with how debian does things. There's no shame there, it's big and there's a lot to learn. If you already know some of this, I apologize.] On Friday 18 January 2002 03:04 am, tluxt wrote: What's the best way currently to set KDE up for printing? Have you done this recently? Yes. I own a Epson 777U, that I just recently got working. Specifically: Recent Woody install. This will be primarily for printing web pages from Konq. using a recent parallel port Epson Inkjet printer which is supposed to be well supported for Linux: http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html I'm running sid, so *shrug* my experiences may or may not apply. http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/install Has section: 9: Next Steps and Where to Go From Here Which doesn't have any suggestions about printing. Maybe file a wishlist bug report? I glanced at that, and Printing Software by Grant Taylor, in Category Reviews - Saturday, September 15th 2001 00:00 EST at: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/296/ (Aside: Among other things, this says: The gimp-print project has produced a driver suite that drives most Epson Stylus and many other brands of color inkjet printers. So, do I need to install GNOME stuff to get that?) If you do a search for gimp-print (apt-cache search gimp-print), you'll see a package called cupsys-driver-gimpprint. If you apt-cache show it, you see it depends on libgimpprint1 (among other cups-related stuff), which in turn depends soley on libc and zlib, both of which you should already have. So no, there are no big gnome or gtk dependencies. I searched the Debian KDE archive for last quarter and found articles like: Printing with CUPS 1.1.10 on KDE 2.1.2 http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2001/debian-kde-200110/msg00044.html So, that's on a specific package (CUPS). But, I didn't find anything about _how_ to determine _which_ printing sw to use. I highly recommend cups. It just rocks, both for ease of setup and interoperability (I have my cups server printing for another linux box, a mac ibook, and a windows machine, all transparently). So, specifically: 1) What packages should I apt-get, 2) How to install which drivers, 3) etc. cupsys and cupsys-client should get you started. I actually don't use the gimp-print driver, but you can play around with it later if the quality isn't up to snuff with the default. Once you install them, edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. It is *very* well documented, but I can send you my file off-list if you need more help. You don't mention if you have a single workstation setup, or a server that will serve other computers, but either way is a breeze. cups is configured via the web, so once you edit the config, and restart cups (/etc/init.d/cupsys restart), point any webbrowser at http://server:631, and log on using the username and password that you set up. Then (and now I'm going off memory) you click on something like manage printers, then add printer, which will walk you through adding a printer. Once you get done filling out the stuff it asks (printer type, port number) you're done. Try printing the test page, and if that works, just use lp or qtcups (a seperate install) to happily print away. Oh, and if you are running kde 2.2.2, apt-get install kdelibs3-cups, goto the control center, find printing, and add your printer in there, and walah, all kde apps can print to it. Hope that helps, and if you require more assistance, please feel free to ask on the mailing list (so that it's archived for the next person as willing as you were to actually do some research before asking questions. Believe me, that's much appreciated!). [I'm new to doing printer setup on Linux. All help/suggestions appreciated. Thanks! :) ] No problem - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SD2SEHLN/FXAbC0RApBhAJ40j6ooCZ5pkAuF6kT9iAeFoYMd/wCgpEYo XvNxn7Ro//LDMp6FMLs385M= =JO+X -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Interpreting FHS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 16 January 2002 02:06 pm, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2002 20:25, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: up just in debian. And may I add that KDE hackers loathe the debian packaging somehow? [*] There is some major misunderstanding there, some [*] This is my impression from conversations on #kde. Before we get *too* far off on a tangent, from my long lurking on the kfm-devel and kmail mailing list, the problem isn't the packaging, as much as it is the *large* amount of bug reports filed by debian/testing users at bugs.kde.org when things break (like, for example, when kmail was out of sync with the rest of the packages and refused to work at all). Understandably, that bugs (heh) the hell out of them, and for a while they wouldn't even let debian users *submit* bug reports. However, afaik, that's all cleared up, with Ivan siding with them (if you have a problem with kde, file it with debian and Ivan (now D.Stone) will forward it on to the appropriate place, if needed). This has nothing to do with the location of the files on the drive, just how testing works. Anyways, that's all I had to say about that B-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Re0iEHLN/FXAbC0RAgPIAJ92LTB1c3GqTgWcQyG+zzAsu34xngCfbtwG ogb9ICkDeMhu7t1oNamRWAk= =kZUv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE filesystem structure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 15 January 2002 12:58 pm, Oliver Johns wrote: And HEINOUSLY violates that little policy thing of ours that no-one cares about. You put your own stuff in /opt/kde[23], that's what it's for - your *own* stuff. For packagers, it's another /usr/local - touch and burn. Also, in general, putting random subdirs under /usr is exceedingly bad practice, and it also violates that little policy thing. (Bear in mind that the FHS is also policy). The Debian policy is violated, in principle anyhow, by the whole X-windows system. It DOES have its own special subdirectories. The reason is that it is so large and complicated that good sense demands putting it in a special place to make it easier to keep track of it. The real question is whether kde and gnome have now reached that status. I think they have. For one thing, people who use both kde and gnome experience trouble knowing which app or which library or shared file belongs to which. It would be VERY helpful, and quite rational, for Debian to follow, or even one-up, the other dists and treat BOTH of those two mega-systems specially. Well, if it starts with a K. ;-) On a more serious note, that's what dpkg -S /usr/lib/foo.so is for: a quick way to know what belongs to who. The only reason *I* can think of to seperate things is if they start stepping on each other's toes (use the same library, but different and incompatabile versions, but the same major version (it's happened)) and I don't know if it's to that point yet. The only problem I have with the packaging of kde is when I try to compile something like kpilot (to which I contribute very little) and install, I end up having to put stuff into /usr, just to get it to work (i've never successfully compiled a kde app into /usr/local and had it work). However, that is no different than if it was in /usr/kde2, or /opt/kde or whatever. IOW, it's a KDE problem, not a debian one :-) Does the Debian policy ever change? Yes, see debian-policy :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8RIutEHLN/FXAbC0RAocGAKCB0VKcGAnvXxzdxDrgyGxjGaRN0ACeLy2w +MAZsB43NMhbXr8I7+zBYO8= =SAM7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE filesystem structure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [please don't cc: me. I'm on the list :-)] On Tuesday 15 January 2002 02:41 pm, James Thorniley wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 8:06 pm, David Bishop wrote: The only problem I have with the packaging of kde is when I try to compile something like kpilot (to which I contribute very little) and install, I end up having to put stuff into /usr, just to get it to work (i've never successfully compiled a kde app into /usr/local and had it work). However, that is no different than if it was in /usr/kde2, or /opt/kde or whatever. IOW, it's a KDE problem, not a debian one :-) Speaking now as someone who programs apps for KDE (rather than a disgruntled debian user ;), the reason for this is as follows snip what I already understood If you re-read what I said, I was complaining about how KDE uses that approach: everything in the same directory. IOW, I already understand how it works, and even partly why, but don't like it :-) I would *like* to be able to have a debianized kde base system, and also be able to compile *some* apps locally (kpilot in particular) without having to worry about conflicts. IOW, the /usr prefix is fine, I just want /usr/local to work as well B-) Now, as I have not volunteered to get off my buttocks and figure out a clean way to achieve this goal, let alone actually *doing* it, all I can do is offer my opinion accompanied by smilies... I obviously like KDE (and debian!), so this isn't a showstopper for me, but it sure would be nice... - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8RKvOEHLN/FXAbC0RAqSBAJwOU08EOl6eFn/hFIL0IziPOsgIFgCg061J QxYvoKaBEVo0JBBF+lxkXZM= =Nbrf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 January 2002 01:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello !! I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I know, that's unstable...) : snip Well !! This package works !! But the rest still don't works !! The problem isn't resolved... if I tape the command apt-get install kpackage, the same error message is displayed... If anyone has an idee, thanks a lot !! Well, I won't comment on your sources.list, because everyone else already has :-) I'll just mention that this particular dependency problem has been noted before and a new package upload with fixed depends: is planned very soon. Hope that helps - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PvykEHLN/FXAbC0RAlqxAKDMkZl+02TBRMewprEawQDouN3ekACgsjFn QjjKeb6U96vrCyg3A5OqpxA= =GMiI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
following 2.2.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Quick question, do the latest kde 2.2.2 packages use strictly KDE_2_2_RELEASE or KDE_2_2_BRANCH? There have been some bug fixes in _BRANCH that I would love to get my hands on, specifically (supposedly) a fix for the *long* standing can't use an authenticating proxy with ssl bug. Thanks. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GMDCEHLN/FXAbC0RApQtAJ94XerHKeHcyTXMz+mHWT70iHWWNQCfaMKi 2MtSLehEiiAlophiDJv6hLQ= =je/5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: following 2.2.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 December 2001 08:40 am, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: Quick question, do the latest kde 2.2.2 packages use strictly KDE_2_2_RELEASE or KDE_2_2_BRANCH? There have been some bug fixes in _BRANCH that I would love to get my hands on, specifically (supposedly) a fix for the *long* standing can't use an authenticating proxy with ssl bug. yes. KDE_2_2_BRANCH is followed. Sweet, then I'll just wait for the next release of packages. Thanks! - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GMynEHLN/FXAbC0RAiNzAKCH9ks4oYRhAJBiruIQu2rKOybSRwCgmbPM FJDhBQZY3tsl6Wv+jwLIHts= =jys4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 01:17 am, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they stabalized lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). Any actual experiences welcome :-) The ones I downloadaed in late november were fairly stable*, file and http ioslaves were working, but there was no kmail, so I downgraded back to kde 2.2 ;) Now it seems that there are no kde4/3.0 packages on people.debian.org that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages built. Sweet, I'll just wait then. As for the debug thing, great! 2 birds with one stone :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8F24cEHLN/FXAbC0RAtDKAJ4iui95gWoBv9ciE+8mbcGMZsRcagCg6eWd oHiqg5IK2S7RPlKYpwSnOf4= =TCgY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they stabalized lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). Any actual experiences welcome :-) Sidenote to Ivan: I don't remember if I asked you about this before, but I was wondering if for the alpha/beta packages of KDE, we could turn on debugging, at least in the libraries. It would help us bleeding edge types to be able to make decent bugreports, and would be turned off (of course) as soon as we hit .0. Anyways, just an idea :-) Thanks to all, and to all a good night! ;-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Flf9KEJ4huP2XBERAt5xAKDAXq3/hmDDcG5XyT7Xa2CPyrQoJwCdGDuY 7i0OR/bpmfTRhqUp20EonQg= =JNmU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
konsole
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey, does anyone know how to open up a new terminal within an existing konsole using the keyboard? I.e., I don't want to have to touch the mouse :-) Thanks. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Dpf3KEJ4huP2XBERAvoEAJ9FfM8SPTZVmTi9OrmCsolHY9mBFwCgwHr8 Ir+8ebZTD+mi4Jl1B7ICja0= =QCcX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Help -- My CPU is overrun
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 06 November 2001 04:40 pm, Robert Tilley wrote: For the last several days my gkrellm has indicated that 100% of my CPU is being used, even at system rest, by only 72 processes. kdeinit represents 80% and above of that load, according to top. Should kdeinit be consuming this much processor time? Note: I run Debian unstable. kdeinit is the name almost all kde-spawned processes will be named. To see what's *actually* using so much proc, hit ctrl-esc. That will pop-up a kde-based top that gives you the real name. Off the cuff, I would guess either a konq session out of control, or possible artsd (the only two I ever have do that). HTH. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE76HU+KEJ4huP2XBERAgieAKDAZetTeOVvqSgkhXcIQYxTt12VYgCgqdS0 rvJpdT3OijuSjdtR1JAyKKc= =N2Sg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Qt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 05 November 2001 09:36 pm, Josh Hansen wrote: In any configure script that checks for Qt, I get this error message: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 2.2.1) (libraries) not found. Please check your installation! For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. Of course one would think that means Qt isn't installed, but alas, I'm running KDE which uses Qt so that isn't so. Maybe the header files just aren't there? Well, I have the libqt-dev package too. Hmmm... what else could it be? Maybe I need to simply reinstall the libqt2 package? Nope, tried that. Golly gee willikers nothing's working! Ok, I'm done with my sarcastic rundown of already-tried options. Any idea why my system just doesn't seem to realize that it has Qt 2.3.1 installed? This is preventing me from compiling a number of programs and from starting a new project of my own. :-( Well, I'll survive. Thank you for any suggestions - maybe I've stumbled on some previously unexpected contingency that needs to be dealt with. Thanks! - Josh When compiling, you will have to pass --with-extra-libs=/usr/lib/kde2 - --with-extra-includes=/usr/include/kde. Otherwise, it won't work. HTH. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE752uyKEJ4huP2XBERAhjrAKCbxBCNuyiHfgLKoktxw0wPXICLCACfWXfD 6EpDnCJ17IhIKblVLJ9EHi0= =3wpI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: filters in kmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 03 November 2001 01:41 pm, Greg Madden wrote: On Saturday 03 November 2001 07:27 am, Tobias Leismann wrote: On Saturday 03 November 2001 17:20, David P James wrote: But whenever I reply to a posting it defaults to sending it to the original sender (no real surprise there). I can send a *new* message to the mailing list by right-clicking on the folder, but not a reply. Instead I have to use reply-all and then remove the address of the original sender (so he doesn't get the same message twice). Does anyone else who uses KMail (1.2 with KDE 2.1.2) have a solution to this? I am not sure if this is only pat of kmail 1.3 but: You can try hitting L or use the Menuu Message-Reply list... bye t. I am using Kmail 1.3.2 and the Reply list feature includes the senders address as well as the list address. Can someone confirm this works in 1.3.2, or maybe I have some configuring to do? TIA this only works after assigning a mailing list to that folder (right-click folder- folder contains ml). unfortunetly,that doesn't create an equiv. filter, you have to do that manually (right-click message-create filter- from mailing list). hth and hand (sorry about typing, using one hand). - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE75FhrKEJ4huP2XBERAq4PAKCTPpkLjRhgKLYTAfY4mEltIOd7hgCeLDzr KA1Ypz4cUQv+6Iw8cKfr3kE= =YgY+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: question about konq
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 31 October 2001 12:21 am, Kamil Kisiel wrote: On Tuesday 30 October 2001 17:13, Sunny Dubey wrote: heya everyone I love konqueror and all, and I think its the best thing besides sliced bread, and elvis, however I have this one *slight* problem why is it everytime I pop open a new Konq window, I swear my system is loading all the konq binaries, and libs all over again. that gets really really irratating after a while. (shouldn't konq just open a new window on the fly, if it already is in memory???) or am I the only one wiht this weird problem?? thanks much for any info Sunny Dubey PS: I'm running the lastest version of everything of SID on my crappy-laptop - From within your already open konq window, click on the k-cog (the thing that spins). That should pop open a window based on the same loaded binary and libs. If you select the world-cog from the panel, you load a whole new instance so you get the slow down you are seeing. The reason for the difference, is that if one window crashes, all other windows off the same binary crash as well (not really a problem for me, but.). HTH. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE74BHPKEJ4huP2XBERAiBkAJ9SB2k+bAIC06LnnleAe00GTyD2EACdFnEA kldGHxMIufYIzH/GC/6bPY0= =XZWd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: artsd does not start
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't know about the maestro, but the intel i8* crap has known issues. I have one in my computer, and finally ended up bringing in a soundcard from home to use instead. I tried the kernel driver, the oss (non-free) driver, and the alsa driver and they all either failed to produce sound from any app, or crapped out with arts. If it is at all a possibility, I would recommend getting something like a cheap sb16/64 and using that. If not, turn off arts and use xmms/mplayer (which work, mostly, most of the time). On Monday 29 October 2001 01:41 pm, P. de Vicente wrote: Hello, I am running woody + kde 2.2.1 and have problems with arts with a couple of computers. These computers have different sound cards (chipsets since they are in the main board) and they work well since kscd plays music from a CD. The chipsets are Maestro3 (HP Omnibook XE3), and Intel 82801 (HP Vl 8 Vectra). However when I try to open the Sound module in KControl I get no information and an error message like this (in spanish :-) : There was an error loading the module. The diagnostics is: Does anybody know what is going on?. Am I missing some package?. Pablo de Vicente KDE spanish translation team. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE73cJWKEJ4huP2XBERAmUzAKCRTkf7Wgvs1X4dmnwpa4Pa5+KJvQCfaD6l VbEpkybuFBj3QmvAQhiKGEE= =GmNh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Need help fixing KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While I can't wade through all the dependency problems, if apt or dselect isn't doing it for you, try downloading the packages by hand and using dpkg. To see the options to override dependencies and whatnot, man dpkg. HTH. On Monday 29 October 2001 04:02 pm, John Gay wrote: After the serious problems of last nights attempts to install KDE2.2 I've now found myself stuck with a broken KDE and no apperent way to fix it? Everything I try insists on removing ALL of KDE! I can't install KDE from unstable due to missing packages, but I can't fix my previous set-up either. apt-get install kde/unstable produces: progeny:/home/jgay# apt-get install kde/unstable Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Selected version 4:2.2.8 (Debian:unstable) for kde You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-12) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be installed Depends: libkmid (= 4:2.2.1-12) or libkmid-alsa (= 4:2.2.1-12) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdebase-audiolibs (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libkdenetwork1 (= 4:2.2.1-1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kate (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: konsole (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kscreensaver (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kruler but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdict but it is not going to be installed Depends: artsbuilder but it is not going to be installed Depends: noatun but it is not going to be installed Depends: knewsticker but it is not going to be installed Depends: ktimer but it is not going to be installed Depends: kcoloredit but it is not going to be installed kdebase: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be installed kdebase-libs: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be installed konqueror: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be installed libkonq3: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). progeny:/home/jgay# As you can see, there are several packages that just won't be installed, and this stops me from installing KDE from unstable at all. I've tried both dselect and apt to try to get back to my original set-up, but the first thing that needs to be removed is kdelibs3 4:2.2.1 and this forces the removal of ALL my current KDE! I don't want to loose everything! But I do want to get KDE back. Gnome is just too awkward for me to use. Does anyone know how I can reverse this without loosing everything? I've even had to resort to using Mozilla for my mail because kmail is broke too. Cheers, John Gay - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE73eZVKEJ4huP2XBERAq5JAKCi/QR+d9JldoQTGDLhSo40qVALBQCguBOA CM2Cma6iVcd9MBcf69CCC8Y= =yTHR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Konqueror error in Debian kde 2.2.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 24 October 2001 03:24 am, Jørgen Hermanrud Fjeld wrote: Hi. There seems the be a rendering error in konqueror 2.2.1. I reported the problem kde/konqueror bugtracking, but they where unable to reproduce it. So I wonder if this is spesific to my setup, or to debian kde 2.2.1. The error is not showing contents of textfield tag. Triggered, I believe, when it contains a !-- (not including the )... You have made available two pages to test for the error. http://www.riverside.no/~jhf/konqf.html http://www.riverside.no/~jhf/konqf2.html In my browser, neither textarea contains anything, but as you can see from the HTML code, it should. Do others of you also experience this error? I believe that the response was cannot reproduce with current cvs. That means, something between the release of 2.2.1 and now, has fixed it. So basically, you have to wait until either 2.2.2 or 3 (depending on which branch got the fix). HTH. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71tfhKEJ4huP2XBERApCeAKC8CkZFKOvEB7w1zuKuJ2dhGbTHYwCgsxdI Ag/RLz6MsuWVb15cwGHWLK4= =tRwr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Broken Konq.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 24 October 2001 06:47 pm, Robert Tilley wrote: I have found that although selecting Konqueror Web Browser from my Internet menu does nothing, opening a konqi window through clickin on the Home icon on the desktop does work. Curiouser and curiouser -- pretty soon a cat should die. Run kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing from the command-line and see what happens. that's what konq web browser and the k-menu both do, not just konqueror. I will bet $$2donuts that it will break and give you info as to why. HTH. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE712yBKEJ4huP2XBERApScAJiYKcbBNigwecFmfRzzknrl22OZAJ0Tjqzq 33fMC8yeuJLYv0/PDUxv7Q== =O99f -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Eureka -- This Means Something!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 24 October 2001 08:53 pm, Robert Tilley wrote: snip normal stuff tillarium:/home/tilleyrw# kio (KProtocolInfo): ERROR: Protocol '' not found more snippage The above is the result from a recent suggestion to discover the cause of konq not konq'ing when menu driven. If anyone can tell me what this all means, I'd certainly appreciate it. I've seen the protocol '' not found before, it was almost always when I upgraded between diffferent kde versions without restarting. Either a major 2.1-2.2 upgrade, or even just some 2.2.0-4 to 2.2.0-6 sorta stuff. I know it sounds silly, but have you logged off and back on? And if that doesn't work, log off, *move* your .kde to .kde.BAK, and try again. If it works then, your options are to either blow away the config stuff and start over, or possibly just the konqueror.rc (or whatever it is) in there. Both are fairly painless, unless you are heavily into modifiying your desktop. Before the kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed I had clicked the close box on the newly opened window. So wait, does this mean it did open a window when starting from the command-line? A window that when to your normal start-up page? If so, double-check that the menu item or task-bar-button-thingie are calling what I told you to run. If not, that got screwed up somehow and just needs to be reset manually. HTH. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7132zKEJ4huP2XBERAonEAJ0UZdtALOGZIRcwHOhafiMN1TmQmQCdHY9W irW/7Nw0XY73pgZ/m1saBxA= =1Ftq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
