Re: Java Sun J2SE 1.4.1 and kde3.1 beta 1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 23 September 2002 08:03 am, Jerry Dimitriou wrote: Has anyone else had any problems using java 1.4.1 of Sun and the KJAS of KDE3.1 Beta 1? In cases where many Java applets are in one Webpage, konqeror will not load the applet. This occurs also when there is one applet which uses a lot of graphics For example the Java applet of this page (http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/applets/fractalina.html) won't load. There are some applets though, that konqueror excecutes correctly, for example, the SCORE BAR on the top of the www.sport.gr page. Can anyone duplicate this, or this is just my configuration which has the problem ? I am running kde 2.2 here with Woody's mozilla and: java -version java version 1.3.1 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS, mixed mode) The only browser that will run this is netscape 4.77. Konq ran once but did not display the java graphical start button. Mozilla didn't run it at all. shrug - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9jzIGZHBxKsta6kMRAoNaAJ4rXCGTe4F6siFbGxtJjTjuRXSp2wCgzrdP +CK8giy/OIuYjuroNCVtfps= =ATp3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KMail Only Works Once Per Session
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 14 September 2002 07:52 am, Mark Purcell wrote: On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:12, Robert Tilley wrote: I'm running KDE 3.1 beta and have noticed something very strange with KMail -- It will only download mail _once_ per KDE session. If I try to fetch mail again, it does nothing. Running KDE3.1 (Karolina's debs, excellent work!) here as well, and it happily downloads mail multiple times. I'm running IMAP mailboxes... Might need to check your settings... But that is where KDE3.1 kmail becomes interesting for me as I can't find the settings to add/ change existing accounts. Fortunatly my old accounts from KDE2.2 are still fine and working. Robert: Is it something as simple as play sound where sound demon is busy and won't let kmail use the sound card? Seems that I had that happen once with kde 2.02. gl - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9hKOZZHBxKsta6kMRAvpYAKCeTTXdVmyn0+NliUZxQw4RH9fDVwCfQkRd 600C5i3B1qYGUMunrfL4HtM= =PRRs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.* in sid will it ever happen?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 13 September 2002 10:03 am, Frank Van Damme wrote: On Friday 13 September 2002 18:58, Nathan Waddell wrote: IMNSHO, the RedHat Package Manager is far less powerful and flexible than Debian's dpkg. Forcing users to go searching for RPM's that may or may not have that dependency you need to compile/run an important program is idiocy. IMELHO (In My Even Less Humble Opinion) this has nothing to do with dpkg vs. rpm but rather with apt vs. non-apt. Redhat doesn't support Apt (because they sell a service that does the same?). Debian does (duh). There is apt for rpm too, see Connectiva (and it also works with Mandrake afaik). Actually, Red Hat does support apt. I used it. Nothing like seeing apt getting blahblahxx.RPM :) - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9gnYpZHBxKsta6kMRAjGTAKCR5KyQ1Jj1QP/gNeCKMQN+FWjjWACeI1sn 0sNm9VZeE8554HORQt2MfHA= =ssa3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Just how long does it take to compile?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 16 July 2002 06:15 am, John Gay wrote: Well, it seems the consensus is about a week?!? Being out of work at the moment, I've got nothing but time. There have also been a few suggestions, which I'll give my answers to and maybe someone can enlighten me in the errors of my ways ;-) As for compiling on my dual PII 350 and copying over. Yes, I've got a network connection so connectivity is not an issue. The two things I am worried about are: 1) How can I compile this on my current, working KDE2 system without screwing it up. Every time I've tried playing with such things, I've alway been bitten, 999 times bitten, once shy. One way is to add a new partition to your system and install a debian base, source, compiler and begin your task. A second way, and one that was fun to see on my own box, is using fakeroot, debootstrap, and chroot(?). Early versions of kde3 were compiled on this computer in this *new* environment. It actually installs a new version of Debian, in a protected environment. A user then can become a fakeroot user and apt-get all the stuff needed to build packages. I don't recall all the binaries that are needed, but I know that there is at least one hacker that does, and reads this list! 2) As my system is PII and the target is PentiumMMX I'm not sure exactly haw to cross-compile. If I ws willing to take the plunge and upgrade MY desktop, I could compile for my PII and hopefully get a bit of performance improvement, but I would need to compile for the PentiumMMX in the target box. It seems simpler, but slower, just to compile on the target in the first place. I know(think?) that it will optimise for the Pentium rather than the 386 compatible deb's for a bit of performance? This is a compiler option. As far as I know, all binary packages in debian are built for a 386 (for intels). When you are ready to build, add the appropriate string and press ENTER to build for your particular needs. John Gay I hope this helps. tatah and 73 - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9NFkyZHBxKsta6kMRAnTWAKCUmgloY75nJ4We7yOAr6bxPB3JCwCgjdBD OgOobOK3ACy9zTMTSZ4j3A0= =5wsd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't see bottom of dialog box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 April 2002 06:56 am, BROWN Nick wrote: I'm trying to set the proxy info in Konqueror and my limited screen size (1024 x 480) on the Vaio C1VE means that I can't fill in all the fields in the dialog box, or indeed find the OK button. Is there some way (control-shift-alt-drag, etc) to have the desktop pan across a larger virtual window ? I think many of us have been in this stage before. The trick is that you can use the ALT+LEFT_CLICK on your mouse to move any window anywhere on your desktop. Hope that helps. tatah - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8qdIPZHBxKsta6kMRAsaJAJ99rUDIcm+5latSIHS5Zh8enT/08ACbBB9a H8GDeSDwKPPKWTjaaVVPGnI= =/uLc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
making a file with root permissions
Greetings Bill: So sorry you spent so much time fooling with the file. A quick call here could have saved you some time, though I do admit to being gone a lot of yesterday! If you still have the file on your drive, probably in /home/bill/YourFileName, then you can simply move it with the 'mv' command as root! Also note that you can do a dir that is quite powerful: 'ls -al'. 'ls' by it self will show files and directories that are not hidden. By adding the '-al' to the 'ls' command, you can see the whole directory, hidden files, who *owns* the file, what *group* the file belongs to, and *who* can *read* the file! This will also show if it can be *executed*! Very powerful. The next is way to do something special is to vi! open a Konsole, switch to superuser: 'su -', and do note that space and hiphen, that makes you root with all of roots *extra stuff (tm)* :) Now open a vi with the command 'vi'. You now have the most powerful and fastest editor at your disposal. This is a command driven editor, and it doesn't come with a newbieuserfriendly gui. . . To add stuff to your file, first press 'i' for (i)nsert, type your text. Now get out of insert mode with the 'esc' key. Now save your document by pressing and holding the shift key, and pressing the letters 'zz'. The whole thing would look like this: vi AFunnyLetterToJaye.txt(this creates the name and opens the editor i starts the insert mode esc back to editor command mode Shift zz saves the precious work and exits the editor. Emacs is also workable and useable I THINK as superuser. I hear the echo like voice say: Hey Jaye, I DID save that file that I created as user bill, what else do I need to do after I move it? Very good question Bill! I would change the owner group flags to root. That is really simple: chown (CHange OWNer) is the command to do this. we would issue the command: chown root.root YourFileName (enter) :) Note the first root is the owner, followed by the period and no spaces, the second root is the group. What the hell are groups for? Bill, you are delighting me with these great questions! The owner and groups are important for keeping a tight lock on security of your computer. I don't want the world to have access to my sound system, so I changed all my group for sound to 'audio', then I only added two people to that group, root and jaye. Now if *anyone* else were to log onto my box, they can't touch my sound card, and those programs that need my sound. Not much security there, but that is only at first glance. If a program has a security vulnerability that could possibly give root permissions on a buffer overflow to my sound demon, then I COULD have had a problem. But my group effort took care of the problem before it could ever be exploited. Another very good idea is the 'disk' group. Bill needs to save stuff to the hard drive, floppy, cdburner etc. However, joeBlow doesn't need this right. Joeblow might be just simply looking at the webpage my computer provides, but that is purely a readonly issue. So, bill could hack his way on the box, yet still not have the right to save a simple text file on the drives! That is the *root* of this simple security measure, and the root of much anger by newbies that don't read manuals. There are several basic, and simple commands I think any user should know. They are not specifically related to just linux, since I have the same feeling when I am in a DOS command mode. Things like dir and 'ls' are basics. 'md' and 'mkdir', 'del' 'rm'. Note however that linux provides many many extra functional arguements for each of the commands. 'man ls' will give you a very good idea of what I mean. Now, reading a (man)ual page is ok, but here is another trick you have. Open up konqueror web browser. Now, in the url field, enter: #ls (click go). Your browser has the ability to uncompress that manual page, then display it on your web browser, *and* add hyperlinks to related pages! Some times I like using it with the scroll bar, other times, a simple console (Konsole) is what I prefer. I have a good book here, if you would like to borrow it. It applies to all linux, but is clearly slanted to the redhat and mandrake flavors. It applies generically, and I think it helps take out the unknown elements. End of essay :) tatah Bill, 73 -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
making a file with root permissions
Oops. (note red face) Please disregard my last post :) -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnupg kmail signing message
Greetings: I have configured gnupg, then built and published my keys to the mit server. Next I configured kmail to use gpg. I can now quickly encrypt messages, however, I can not sign them. The pad lock is usable, but the ksign icon is grayed out. What other step is needed to actually sign mail with kmail? tia -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnupg kmail signing message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:00 pm, you wrote: Am Samstag, 30. März 2002 21:09 schrieb Jaye Inabnit ke6sls: Greetings: I have configured gnupg, then built and published my keys to the mit server. Next I configured kmail to use gpg. I can now quickly encrypt messages, however, I can not sign them. The pad lock is usable, but the ksign icon is grayed out. What other step is needed to actually sign mail with kmail? You have to specify the gpg user identity. In KMail from KDE2.2.2 this is a field for every KMail identity profile (before it was one for all profiles). HS That was exactly what I needed Hendrik. Thank you so much for the kind reply. I can now encrypt and sign messages now. tatah - -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pivEZHBxKsta6kMRAvGjAJ4wpHYL9dMJuzISq//63sU8YpLkXACeJI5m iw4diqJ4AVuK2K0gd5ogpMA= =LPkE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kmail issue/problem
On Thursday 07 March 2002 08:05 pm, Dan DeVries wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:42:57PM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: I may simply be too confused to help, but . . Are you *sure* yahoo is your smtp server? I had used yahoo for a short time, but I had to use my normal ISP's smtp for outgoing mail. I am still required to use cox's address even though users send me mail @arrl.net. If you are indeed using yahoo as an ISP, then I would double check the smtp settings and verify you are not attempting to *relay* through them erronously. Also, do you need to pop mail first *then* send? Good luck to you. tatah and 73 I think your right that I was relaying through them. I didn't care for yahoo any more and so I got an account with linuxfreemail.com but when I tried to send mail with them I got back a 550 error Relaying denied which oddly enough doesn't surprize me since our dorms IPs don't reverse lookup which are from cox but they don't give us a smtp outgoing mail server. Which surprizes these messages get through from my own machine. Maybe I'll setup imap or something from this machine to may workstations. Thanks, Dan Dan: Here is the link that you need: http://support.cox.net/custsup/email/POP_SMTP_settings.shtml tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Kmail issue/problem
On Thursday 07 March 2002 12:14 pm, Dan DeVries wrote: Hi, Has anyone else had this problem before I upgraded to sid my Kmail worked perfect but you might notice I'm using Mutt to send this message on a different machine. I can download my mail from yahoo no problem but when I send mail I always get and I quote sending failed a SMTP error occured Command MAIL Response: 530 authentication required for help got to help.yahoo blah... The following transport protocol was used smtp://smtp.mail.yahoo.com:25 no doubt before I sent to this list I have been looking for help or fix it I remove Kmail and put back the old version 1.2 instead of 1.3 just incase but the problem persistes. I looked at FAQ and have tried downloading my mail and then sending whats in my queue, to authenticate but it didn't work. There is an option to store mail and send it after checking/downloading your mail. Again, it downloads my mail but errors on sending my mail. I don't get why it is authenticating to get my mail but it can't send it. Any Ideas, did I miss something? Do you need more information? Note, just in case its yahoo I used Mozilla 0.9.8 and it sent my mail By the way other than this KDE works great and just wanted to say what a great job you guys do. Thanks, Dan Dan: I may simply be too confused to help, but . . Are you *sure* yahoo is your smtp server? I had used yahoo for a short time, but I had to use my normal ISP's smtp for outgoing mail. I am still required to use cox's address even though users send me mail @arrl.net. If you are indeed using yahoo as an ISP, then I would double check the smtp settings and verify you are not attempting to *relay* through them erronously. Also, do you need to pop mail first *then* send? Good luck to you. tatah and 73 -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: launch apps on virtual desktops
On Monday 04 March 2002 05:55 pm, Justin R. Miller wrote: Said MadCoder on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 02:40:39AM +0100: Is it possible to launch an app under KDE on all virtual desktops only with a command line ? Is it possible too to launch an app on the third desktop when I launch it from an xterm on te 2nd ? For both of these, see the list archives from about two days ago... I believe that it had something to do with 'kstart'. Greetings: I did read the prior posts, and attempted to see it for myself, but I must confess it did not work :( Donno if it is the current Woody addition of kde or not, but the commands given concur with the doc's I have locally.. -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: konqueror and flash plugin
On Friday 01 March 2002 07:54 am, Kamil Kisiel wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 01:15:37PM +0100, Christian Schoenebeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?please cc me - I'm offlist Hi! I've problems setting up the flash plugin in konqueror. There was no /usr/lib/netscape directory so created it and also /usr/lib/netscape/plugins Then I copied these two files (ShockwaveFlash.class and libflashplayer.so) into that plugin directory and activated java (using /usr/bin/gij-3.0 - the gnu java interpreter). After choosing 'search for new plugins' the flash plugin appeared in the netscape-plugins list, but I'm still not able to display flash elements with konqueror. What else do I have to do? Help would be greatly appreciated, Christian Schoenebeck Having encountered this problem many times before, I've found that for some strange reason you have to set libflashplayer.so +x before Konqueror will be able to use it to display Flash content (at least this was the solution on mine and several other people's system). Please reply with your results to the list. Greetings: I noted the same question, and I really don't know where to apply the proposed solution, but I will share what I just noted today. I had all my pluggins noted in the konq pluggins, but shock never did work. I just got in the habit of using the open with command and choose netscape and hoped it would fly. This time, I went to the Movie page I have bookmarked and clicked on the first movie. Sure enough, it failed, and printed a notice to download shock etc. I re-opened the settings page, and clicked the scan for new pluggins button. It didn't add anything to the list of pluggin directories, or pluggins, but it *did* finally use shock. Unfortunately, they use quicktime, so I still can't see the trailer. fork-it. I am using woody, with no unstable kde locally. Here I gesticulate a big shrug in an omnidirectional fashion :) tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: KDE3 alpha .debs around?
On Tuesday 26 February 2002 04:33 am, Daniel Stone wrote: Update: I need to change /usr/share/kde3 to /usr/share for it to work (long story), but my build box is suddenly unroutable due to @home being stupid. Shit! Ironic that it's always up when I'm tooling around just trying to get the answer with no firm idea, yet when I know exactly what I want, it's screwed. Great. Daniel: Have posted you a private reply, bugus lives .. . /me finds another bug in kde . . . argh -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: openoffice install problem under kde
On Monday 18 February 2002 09:31 am, Putz Akos wrote: Ok, I've found the solution : if the KDE panel is on the left, OO and SO segfault. But if it is at bottom, everything works OK. Probably it is not a KDE bug, but who knows. Putz: I am wondering if you are using an openoffice deb? Have looked around a little but do not see anything. tia, tatah and 73 -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Woody kmail
On Sunday 03 February 2002 03:27 am, Paulo Jose da Silva e Silva wrote: Hello, I did just that a week ago. I got the kmail from unstable (plus and at least two libraries that you can not find in woody - libmimelib1 and libkdenetwork1) and it worked fine. Good luck Paulo Em Sab 02 Fev 2002 21:46, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls escreveu: Greetings: I just upgraded a few minutes ago, picked up a lot more of the newer kde2.2.2 stuff, but not kmail. Question: is possible to download just kmail (from Sid) and install it without grief? tia. Tatah Paulo: Thanks for the information. I just pulled the three packages from sid and they installed without any problems. I can ATTACH stuff to mail again :) wahoo tatah and 73 -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Trouble With tluxt/Jens Woody/KDE/ALSA Sound Recipe
On Sunday 03 February 2002 03:32 pm, Jens Benecke wrote: On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:54:29AM +, Nick wrote: [Apparently I need a debconf-utils package, which isn't on the archive] Did you do apt-get update before? Perhaps the mirror just wasn't up to date. Also, don't forget about the badness from the resync bug .. That could have caused some delays for packages. -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
status for Woody users
Greetings: Would like to know if we have a good idea (or any) of when kde will migrate from unstable to testing? I wish to avoid as much migratory damage as possible locally and elsewhere. Next, there was a foopah in November with forcing parts of kde during upgrades using apt. Has this been resolved? It sprung up two nights ago when I did a dist-upgrade on another Woody box that hadn't been touched for several months. TIA and great work all! tatah and 73 -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
m68k
The reason for rolling it slowly is apparently to preserve the autobuilders; you have to bear in mind here that m68k takes 40 hours to build kdebase alone. Daniel: Is there an emulator we could use on an intel machine for building m68k stuff?? I know I can run windoz under my intel linux box now. . . That would surely speed things up enormously. tatah and 73 -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
test - plz ignor
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Re: subject? no subject
On Sunday 06 January 2002 09:01 am, Florian Struck wrote: Re sent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-kde@lists.debian.org archive/latest/6200 X-Loop: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi its weird on most messages i see the subject using kmail but in some mails it says no subject even though i can see the subject in the header does anyone experience this too? Greeting Florian: Yes. I am running pure Woody here and there was breakage I think in late November. Some of it was resolved, and some wasn't, like the kmail issues. If you run pure Woody too, you will also note that you can't attach messages without segfaulting kmail.. Hang in there, new code is always coming one bit at a time :) tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: subject? no subject
On Sunday 06 January 2002 12:09 pm, Florian Struck wrote: On Sunday 06 January 2002 20:19, you wrote: Messag e-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-kde@lists.debian.org archive/latest/6205 X-Loop: debian- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 06 January 2002 09:01 am, Florian Struck wrote: Re sent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-kde@lists.debian.org archive/latest/6200 X-Loop: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi its weird on most messages i see the subject using kmail but in some mails it says no subject even though i can see the subject in the header does anyone experience this too? Greeting Florian: Yes. I am running pure Woody here and there was breakage I think in late November. Some of it was resolved, and some wasn't, like the kmail issues. If you run pure Woody too, you will also note that you can't attach messages without segfaulting kmail.. Howdy True that attach thing is funny =/ running pure woody here too. strange is that the broken subjects come only into my mandrake mailing lists folder shhh dont tell anyone lol. But whats a klient that i can use in the meantime ? Something that is similar to kmail? Hang in there, new code is always coming one bit at a time :) tatah Florian: I read kde-user, so it's not necessary to CC me. I don't use any of the other mailers like netscape, opera, or console like mutt etc. I have used linuxfreemail.com for any attachments. I like it since I can telnet into them and use pine :) Go figure. I can also access them via http with linuxfreemail.com webmail gui. Works nicely. I can also pop3 them, and they claim they will support imap soon. In fact, I have considered setting pine up here, it's very easy to use and so far, I have not used a man page once on it :) good luck -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: KMail crash on attaching a file (Debian testing packages)
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 07:01 am, Rachel Andrew wrote: hy Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-kde@lists.debian.org archive/latest/6129 X-Loop: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi I have a Debian Woody system with the KDE packages from testing, all is running really well apart from a couple of issues with KMail, the worst of which is if I try to attach a file it crashes with a Signal 11, when I OK the file I have selected by browsing to it. I've pasted the backtrace below. The crash happens every time i try to attach a file. Its a standard up to date install from the testing packages on an Athlon 1gig machine, Abit KT7A mainboard. Rachel (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found).. .(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...0x40fd78f9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40fd78f9 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x410501f0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x407e70b8 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #3 0x40f60848 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x080cfecd in KDialog::marginHint () #5 0x080ad0d9 in KDialog::marginHint () #6 0x40492a6f in KIO::Job::result () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #7 0x40479d7c in KIO::Job::emitResult () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #8 0x4047ab96 in KIO::SimpleJob::slotFinished () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #9 0x4047ccc1 in KIO::TransferJob::slotFinished () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #10 0x40a6ea0d in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #11 0x4046ccd5 in KIO::SlaveInterface::finished () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #12 0x4046911c in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #13 0x40468e68 in KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #14 0x40467aa0 in KIO::Slave::gotInput () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.3 #15 0x40a6ecce in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #16 0x40ac6658 in QSocketNotifier::activated () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #17 0x40aa5242 in QSocketNotifier::event () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #18 0x40a1aa87 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #19 0x40755da4 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 #20 0x409e53ba in qt_set_socket_handler () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #21 0x409e 5abe in QApplication::processNextEvent () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #22 0x40a1cf4f in QApplication::enter_loop () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #23 0x409ec9c3 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 #24 0x08133ae3 in KDialog::marginHint () #25 0x40f5065f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 Rachel: That is correct. If you are running a pure Woody box, then parts of KDE are broken and we are kind of in limbo waiting for some new packages to trickle down from Sid to fix these problems. An option is to install the Sid version of KDE, or wait until the repaired newer packages make it into Woody. tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: All KDE Icons have gone since yesterday....
On Sunday 30 December 2001 07:09 am, Hank Marquard wrote: t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-kde@lists.debian.org archive/latest/6087 X-Loop: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See the threads about libqt the last day or so -- It's being worked on and the interim fix is realtively easy/painless if you have the old .deb for libqt in your cache or you can d/l it. On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 03:36:29PM +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: Hi! Since my last apt-get upgrade yesterday I logged in to KDE again today and there were no Icons :-( No Application (kicker, konqi etc) does show any Icons anymore. It seems that there is a problem with libpng. These are the messages in my .xsession-errors: libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.1 libpng warning: Application is running with png.c from libpng-1.0.12 libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library (repeated a hundred times...) some more information: I am using woody. homer:~# dpkg -l libpng* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: | uppercase=bad) | ||/ Name Version Description +++-=-=-= == un libpng-devnone(no description available) un libpng0 none(no description available) un libpng0-altdevnone (no description available) un libpng0g none (no description available) un libpng0g-dev none (no description available) un libpng1-dev none (no description available) ii libpng2 1.0.12-2 PNG library - runtime un libpng2-dev none(no description available) ii libpng3 1.2.1-1 PNG library - runtime homer:~# Does anybody know whats wrong here? libpng was always installed/upograded through dependencies. I never deinstalled it or something like that... -Marc -- +-O . . . o . . . O . . . o . . . O . . . ___ . . . O . . . o .-+ | Ein neuer Service von Links2Linux.de: / o\ RPMs for SuSE | | -- PackMan! -- naeheres unter| __| and others| | http://packman.links2linux.de/ . . . O \__\ . . . O . . . O . | Greetings: That seems odd to me that Marc sustained this foopah if running Woody! I am also running woody, and so far, have not had this happen to my kde, but another box on my lan that runs Sid was affected. I understand that code lives in Sid for two weeks without major bugs *before* moving to Woody. Did something transit into woody without the two week delay? -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Sound
On Wednesday 12 December 2001 04:02 pm, Tom Allison wrote: phy Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-kde@lists.debian.org archive/latest/5947 X-Loop: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to have kaudio. I upgraded to whatever went into testing (2.2.1?) and now I have no sound. Technically, I have sound, but I have nothing KDE-ish to control it with. No thing in the menu and nothing to select from the packages. According the dselect, I already have kaudio installed -- but there's nothing in the menus to sound config. It's really quiet - I would love to be able to turn it up. Tom, I did a woody install too, and noted the lack of kmix. You can either install kmix (if it will) or pull another mixer from debian. I like kmix but aumix also works well. apt-get install aumix Best of luck -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: kmail - local mailbox - feeling dumb
On Saturday 01 December 2001 09:50 am, Hank Marquardt wrote: This is an unstable box, brand new user, no garbage or baggage to mung things up -- fire up kmail, it does it's configuration for first time use -- fine, now there's an address book and Mail directory. I went to Configure KMail - Network added the local mailbox as /var/mail/$user told it to use mutt dotlocks, turned on interval checking and saved ... Tell it to check mail, nothing ... pull down the menu for Check mail here and select the local name... nothing. There is mail, I've sent it, I get the shell 'New mail in /var/mail/$user' on shell login. Hank: I also had issues with local mail, and my own experience is lame so I checked each one individually. Firstly, my mail lives in: /var/spool/mail/jaye That might be an issue for you too. Next, all the mail chks failed except: Mutt dotlock (privileged) The (recommended) didn't work here on my Testing Woody box. hth tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: ok folks...let's talk freeze...
On Thursday 29 November 2001 08:05 am, Ben Burton wrote: Speak now or forever hold your piece. In a few weeks it will be RC bug fixes only. Can I just verify that I'm still the only person finding kmail has been slow as all hell for the last few weeks? Maybe it's my own setup. I was wondering if it was due to one of the recent CVS updates. Ben. Ben: I had a case locally during an ISP foobar that kmail was slow. Every day, it just seemed slower. I was positive it had to be a DNS lookup issue. Everyone else on the lan had instant downloads except me! Finally, looking over the 'network' tab, I found the oops! I hand unchecked the box delete mail from server since I was using two email programs at one point. I had several thousand emails that kmail would have to sift through each check. It crashed kmail the first time it deleted the old mails, but then it was fine :) hthtatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
konq in ftp mode
Greetings: How do I set konq to send my user/pass? It logs in anonymously just fine, but I need my own directory, not the anonymous /pub directory on a server. tia -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken
On Thursday 15 November 2001 14:23, Paulo José da Silva e Silva wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-kde@lists.debian.org archive/latest/5534 X-Loop: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I had upgrade my kde to 2.2 from unstable something like 4 weeks ago. At the beggining I had the very same problem as you (some, apparently randomly, e-mails appeared not to have headers). The reason was that kmail wasn't upgraded. Everything worked fine after I upgraded kmail (I didn't delete any index files). Maybe you will have to wait till the new kmail (2.2.1) appears in testing. Best regards, Paulo Greetings: I also ran into this problem with the first parts of 2.2.1 that showed up in testing without getting all of kde. Mail was *very* broken, and it wouldn't even check mail (it would fail every time). I got hundreds of *unknown* emails also, but not all of them! I can't even fathom why! I think we have to wait several more days before the rest of kde will come in from unstable (last I read here). BTW, I ended up completely wacking the .kde directory after backup and removing *all* kde stuff and trying over... Finally, I recieved word that it was broken for testing and switched to blackbox. I never deleted any of my index files and kept my ~/Mail directory intacted locally. Still, *always* very good idea to backup stuff. Good luck to you. Tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
status of 2.2.1
Greetings: I have not seen any mail regarding the status of kde2.2.1 for woody. Has it been fully updated on servers and ready for consumption? tia -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: trying to upgrade KDE - now nothing works!
On Saturday 03 November 2001 12:27, Rachel Andrew wrote: I had first to unistall all KDE packages and install the new ones after and than it worked. It works if you don't, but the system is cleaner if you do so. Make sure to install ALL KDE2.2 related apps from unstable!!! (especially the libs and doc-debs!!!) But all in all it works really fine, I'm just writing from a woody-box with sid's KDE-packages... and my KDE-session is running several days now... ok.. so I have got it downloading Woody from testing. Once I have that installed should I then uninstall any KDE related stuff? Then where do I find the KDE2.2 binaries? In unstable? How do I just get those and not end up upgrading accidentally to the unstable version of Debian? (I'm still struggling a bit with apt-get so apologies if these are really silly questions). Rachel Greetings Rachel, I understand your fear! KDE is included with your new sources list. You will no longer need to specify a seperate entry just for KDE since the qt library issue was resolved. Here is cp of my active source list from /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free If you have broadband, this won't be much of an issue. Took less then 10 minutes for me to upgrade from potato to woody with cable modem. It however took a little longer to set up the new applications like 'x' and several others. I wouldn't pull your kde out just yet. Do the upgrade and see how well apt handles what you already had installed. If it becomes an issue, then pull them (apt-get remove pacagewhatever --purge). Another way is dselect; when you mark a package for removal, a dependency page will come up, where it will tell you all the other things it recommends removing. dselect however, is still a pain when you are still learning the ropes. The new look and feel of woody is very nice though. hth. tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: KDE Spellcheck settings ?
On Wednesday 31 October 2001 03:10, Mark Constable wrote: I can't find where to set up spell checking in Kmail ? I thought I'd bump into the settings one day but it's been nearly a year since I had any spell checking in a mailer since dropping Navigator for Kmail ? --markc Mark: Look under your Edit menu item. The spell check Icon was removed when I think 2.1.2 was brought to debian users. You can easily add the Icon back to the tool bar using the Settings-Configure Toolbar as I did. In fact, I thought that it was one of the nicest features I've found on Kmail. Good luck to you. Tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Kwork/Koffice
On Wednesday 24 October 2001 17:04, Daniel Robert Franklin wrote: This question may offend some, but I just have to ask it. Background: While advocating the virtues of Linux to my wife, I convinced her to start her term paper on AbiWord (about 2 years ago). By the third page of her paper, everything crashed in AbiWord and it was simply incapable of typing more than 2-3 characters without some serious display problems. Hardly surprising - 2 years ago AbiWord was pretty immature. It's a lot better now... I'm looking for experiences with Kword and it's ability to perform on large papers. Feature-wise, I have never managed to migrate past what Word 4.0 offered, so I'm not looking for much. Actually nothing more than what HTML offers would be fine as far as page layout. What's really important is the integrity and stability of the application and it's ability to handle large documents. Also -- Spelling? Is it reasonably mature? I heard some bad things about Star Office so I won't introduce her to that one. My experience of KOffice is that it's not too bad - KPresenter in particular is excellent - but StarOffice is significantly better for word processing. I have not managed to get StarOffice 6.0-beta or OpenOffice working under Debian (segfaults during the install) but 5.2 works quite well. It's ugly but at least it seems to by WYSIWYG. Current AbiWord is probably also a better bet than KWord. KWord doesn't seem to be WYSIWYG yet (which apparently is a feature of Office that users like). I believe this is an objective for the next release of KOffice. I find all the current Office-type offerings grossly inadequate compared to LaTeX, but I'm guessing that this would not be a viable option for you :) - Daniel Greetings Tom: I feel helpless to fend off the urge to ignore this request. I just happened to of discovered Abiword for Woody. I really like the feel and the looks, but it is quite old, compared to Sid's .9x. I would suggest to you to do an apt-get install abiword and see what *you* think as well as your blushing bride. I didn't like the fact that it didn't want to save as a M$Word .doc format, but I may have simply missed it. It has a great GUI IMO and simply felt good. I haven't played with the koffice suit since it's pre-alpha days when Ivan gave it to us for Potato. I may install it now that I have Woody running. StarOffice 6.0 really took me by surprise. It's still big, fat and plenty of fluff, but it is also graphically beautiful and instantly gave me the impression of wow, this is really professional!. I don't know if I am ready to like the license, or not. It is also supporting and pushing for further support of open format standards with the .XML etc. I feel it both worthy and a first to go toe-to-toe with M$muck's Word/Excel products. Don't get too excited about starting it fast. On my 450pIII/384MB, it takes Star 5.2 16 seconds from Icon click to working GUI. It took BTW 6-12 seconds from Icon click to working GUI with Star Beta6. Both Star and Abiword function on this Woody box without crashing, even under extreme duress. I would also hope that both Koffice and Abiword will add full support for the Star XML format. This would make it very possible to offer real open standards for all the workerbees who have to exchange documents from platform to platform. Go for all of them and enjoy the experience. They all rock, and they are all growing up so fast :) -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
kmail address book
Greetz, Have another computer that showed up here. It's running unstable with latest kde offerings including kmail. I had carefully saved the old .kde from the stable potato install. I copied over the addressbook file into kmail, and didn't have any addresses in it. So, I clicked open the address book, and it will kindly IMPORT addresses etc. So, I attempted to import the address book entries to no avial. Clicking on the help/contents reveals a yet to be written help for it :) So, question is, has anyone imported kmail address book from 2.1.2 potato kde to latest unstable kde? Sure would like to NOT retype them again. tnx so much tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
woody - bug came w/upgrade anyway - no X
Greetz, I did apt-update/upgrade and was unpleasantly surprised to see x was now failing to start. Two oops found locally: had to change exec $REALSTARTUP to: exec $REALSTARTUP in the file: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start Next I found an error on my mouse going from PS/2 to ImPS/2. I don't have a wheel here. The first I couldn't control but the second I believe was my mistake on going through several of the configurations during the upgrade phase. Just an FYI to others who upgrade woody's. BTW, why is it the first bug made it's way into Woody? Seems like a major bug to live through the transition from unstable to testing. -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Odd copying/pasting question
On Tuesday 16 October 2001 17:53, Sunny Dubey wrote: hey I want to some how disable the ability to copy text just by highlighting it. IMNSHO this is an old and out dated, and I am hoping (more like wishing) that KDE has some sort of mechanism to simply prevent or prohibit the copying of text by highlighting it. An example below is what I would LIKE to be able to do ... Highlight PARAGRAPH_A Cut PARAGRAPH_A Highlight PARAGRAPH_B Right Click on PARAGRAPH_B Format (or do something ) with PARAGRAPH_B Paste PARAGRAPH_A right under PARAGRAPH_B the problem is ... the following is what happens ... Highlight PARAGRAPH_A Cut PARAGRAPH_A Highlight PARAGRAPH_B Right Click on PARAGRAPH_B Format (or do something ) with PARAGRAPH_B Attempt to paste PARAGRAPH_A right under PARAGRAPH_B (problem is that because I had highlighted PARAGRAPH_B to format it before, PARAGRAPH_A is no longer in the clip board buffer, and instead PARAGRAPH_B is, and so PARAGRAPH_B gets pasted as opposed to PARAGRAPH_A) sorry if this made no sense to you ... I am going to pull my teeth out very very soon or something. I like doing lots of text editing, and thanks to Kword, I like to do it under linux even more (and thanks to samba, I can now share my families printer). The problem ism, it gets very fustrating having to deal with a clip board that changes just by highlighting something (Some one on debian-user said that this happens because of a 15 year old spec or something) Any ideas, insights, or clues?? thanks much for your time Sunny Dubey Teeth Pulling Debian User Greetz Sunny, I'm a reforming windoz user too. To your topic. I have noticed that staroffice does what you want. it however, isn't gpl'd if that is a concern (and IMO should be) to you. Kword/kedit etc all behave more unixy. I've grown used to and expect it. I find that now, on windoz, it's a real pain to highlight, then do a copy/cut function to get stuff into the clipboard. Guess I used to be yin and now I'm yan. :) tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: schmoozing for Ivan....
On Friday 21 September 2001 16:29, David Bishop wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, we got $30 so far. That would probably double his ram or buy a couple pizzas ;-) Com'on, open those pocketbooks. Give it up for the man! Okay, that's about the most cheerfulness I can muster for the day Remember, paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or send money to the mailing address I put in this posting: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2001/debian-kde-200109/msg00206.html Thanks to Greg Madden and Bud Rogers for putting their money where their mouth is. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7q81VKEJ4huP2XBERAtHaAKCz0fACF1T0+nRe95/SmU6rsBknEwCfSUgV 7cxR2SpAWgntUhGGRz0Q+dU= =QSTC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Dude! Give me a few man. I am going to make my contribution tomorrow after I can talk with my wife. She has a paypal account, so it WILL be on the way. I'm thinking along the lines of a $50 for myself. Tnx for the post and update. Is good idea for the list of donors. This makes it clear that the money is making through in good order and you can track your own donations.. tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: 2.2.1 *Ivan surprise*
On Thursday 20 September 2001 11:43, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2001 11:00, Putz Ákos wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2001 18:00, Pedro Díaz Jiménez wrote: Also willing to participate Me too. Add my name! I think this is a splended idea. Paypal? Let's focus while the cat's away 'til Sunday. This could be a lot of fun . . . tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: preset bookmarks
http://www.lwn.net must have http://freshmeat.net/ditto http://www.linuxdoc.org/ http://www.fsf.org And the obvious debian etc . . . tatah On Tuesday 03 July 2001 13:19, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: ok all you kde junkies...anyone know how I can setup a default bookmark list so that upon installation a user will have a few bookmarks (ie things like www.debian.org/debianplanet/etc...)? Ivan -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: kde2.2 alpha2
Fortunately we know you're PHunnie that way :) On Thursday 31 May 2001 11:04, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:00:16PM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote: On May 31 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: I'd like to get 2.2 packages into sid soon but will not do so until a few things happen first: (...) It is great to hear that Debian developers favor stable and proven software more than bleeding-edge releases. actually I prefer bleeding-edge. :) -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: thread reading in kmail - howto?
Greets, I wanted to thank those that responded. The advice was very useful and I am now able to navigate the lists effectively. I don't see a batching option, or thread delete on kmail - yet. But Now I just read thru the thread and select it and use the 'd' key. Very nice. thanks again. On Thursday 24 May 2001 12:29, David Bishop wrote: On Thursday 24 May 2001 10:28, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Hello, I really like being able to thread messages on lists, but reading through them is next to impossible. I just finished re-reading the help files but I don't see any way to read the mail without jumping wildly through out read and unread messages. What I would like to do is have my mail sorted by date, then by threads. Now, the first thread that I come to is ok, the next will jump somewhere deep into un-read territory. Finally the next may or may not take me to the next thread. So my next unread message is lost in the depths of unread mails, instead of back to the top to continue reading in a linear date sorted fashion. Other mailers do this? Any help on reading mails with threading enabled would be much appreciated. I'm obviously missing the finer points of this code. tia I think your major problem is that (it sounds like) you are deleteing each email as you read it. When you do that, Kmail resorts all of the other messages in the thread, and splits stuff off/whatnot because the missing email can't be referenced anymore. The work around is to read throughout the thread, and then delete in batches. For instance, I read your email and then the reply by Hendrik before deleting either, because otherwise Hendrik's would have dropped four messages down to the bottom of my inbox. Not optimal, but as long as kmail immediately moves deleted mail to the trash, instead of just marking them as deleted (like mutt), this will be an issue. HTH, D.A.Bishop P.S. I'm not advocating a mark for delete paradigm. I much prefer the current system. But I do recognize the tradeoff :-) -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: And uglier
Er, maybe it can't. The caption under Message indicates an upper case *L* which also fails, though the lower case causes this action. What'd I miss? On Tuesday 08 May 2001 16:54, Hendrik Sattler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 8. May 2001 23:01, Viktor Lakics wrote: Ákos, why don't you use the L (list reply) feature of mutt. This only replys to the particular list you are replying to... and even kmail in 2.1.1 can do this :-) HS -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
arts(d) and near crashes
Hello, I wanted to share my experience with system performance. I have been seeing performance issues with various apps under KDE2. Seems like it always is involved with arts(d). I've finally reached the point where I am not starting the demon on startup and will live without sound events. I want to say that my system goes into a tail spin of swappage, yet I'm completely unconvinced that it's a memory issue. My mouse will move but out of sync with the pointer (so it's useless) and the keyboard is still there, but will not work to provide a 3 fingered salute. I was able to get to my root console once and issue init 1 which allowed me to keep my uptime (just over 40 days). This lock up was after I attempted to print a document from StarOffice5.2 and I had xmms running with the arts pluggin. It took nearly 15 minutes of attempting to leave x to get back to the console. The second and third quirks were after I attempted to use noatun to play an ogg formated speech from RMS. During these events, my keyboard would no longer function. The first time, I stayed for about 20 minutes but wasn't getting out of x and couldn't kill x. I used the reset button and started into 45 minutes of e2fsck'ing which took two shots (but it lived!). The second time I was able to use my other box to ssh in and become root long enough to do a shutdown -r now. It took 27 minutes to boot after I issued the command, but the kernel didn't give up! I recall some others were having major issues with noatun and here it has never played nice but did play. System is stable potato with kde2.1.2. A 450pIII with 128MB Dimms. I'm not sure why kde went with the arts concept yet, but I'll browse the site and see if known arts(d) issues are present. I wanted to drop the list a note explaining at least my experience here. Now I have to seek out an ogg player :) tatah -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: TO ALL: Long application startup time
Hi, How about not using kde and just using something lite like blackbox or fvwm and *then* fire up kmail there? I know kmail had/has issues with attachments etc from any other app then kde, but I'm sure these issues will be addressed sooner or later. kde here starts fairly pain free. I kill kdm as soon as it starts (it's annoying) and log in as normal at my first console, then start another app in console 5 and log into console 11 (which starts x on 12). Start up is about 10-20 seconds after latest release for potato. I keep it simple, and have a root part and swap part on hda. fwiw. tatah On Monday 30 April 2001 12:30, Robert Guthrie wrote: I've been dealing with this problem for about a month (maybe shorter/longer... I've a bad memory for dates). It has gotten to the point that my NFS-mounted home directories cannot be used with KDE, because Konqueror locks up other critical kde apps, like kmail. Is there any way to configure kde or konq and friends to use /tmp or some alternate directory for temporary lock files? I haven't booted into kde for longer than 30 minutes because I can't even get my e-mail through kmail for about 10 minutes after the desktop has loaded. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: konqueror and CSS
Yup, It won't even load it here - locks up the poor old konq in a hurry. I attempted a load of nutscrap, and it locked it up too! Opera however *did* render very nice results of the page. Funny, the mainboards on the front page all have model numbers that are also real Amateur radio call signs :) Hu. This box is still running pure stable potato and latest kde updates as of this afternoon. tatah On Thursday 19 April 2001 15:36, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Hi, anyone ever enjoyed websites with CSS in konqueror? I'm not. It is _impossible_ to read the text. CSS interpretation cannot be disabled? example? http://www.ecs.com.tw HS -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: problem viewing website (colors?)
Yes. I see the banner and nothing else with konq. Opera loads if fine and it's not even a black background. shrug. On Thursday 12 April 2001 17:52, matthschulz wrote: Has someone else problems to view this site? http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_stuptech.shtml I just see black on black, so nothing. When I mark the text though, so inverts the marked text and displays it. debian 2.2 kde2.1.1 konqueror 2.1.1 Matth -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Two K-Mail problems.
Never tried it. I get them and chain letters all the time thanks to a new email buddie who thinks it's really neat. They only get moved from INBOX to TRASH :| But that Email SHOULD be in either your INBOX or Outbox waiting for next mail check. Check it after it dies, if you can repeat it, then kmail should have a bug filed direct to kde/kmail. I'd love to see kmail get the same support as konq cuz konq totally rox! On Monday 09 April 2001 15:01, David Kempe wrote: I tried doing a reply to all to say it was a hoax and Kmail would just dissappear off the screen, no warning, no segfault Anyone else tried that? Dave -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: Konqueror and Secure pages
Hello, I'm a bit confusesesesed about openssl. I do not have this package installed locally. I don't recall it being mentioned to install it on this list. I just finished sorting (quickly) thru the archives, but I don't see mentioned a requirement for openssl to make konq handle ssl sites. When did I miss this notice? On Saturday 07 April 2001 11:45, David Morgan wrote: OpenSSL is in the Crypto directories on the Debian KDE site and its mirrors. Assuming that you have crypto in your apt sources line for KDE then it should be available and just do apt-get install openssl. I think Ivan provides this with the KDE packages as you need the exact version that KDE was compiled against. If secure sockets are still not working for you then it may be that you are using the WWWOFFLE cache program. Try adding the names of secure sites that you use to the No Proxy line in the Proxies configuration dialog in Konq. This is a workaround, not the long-term solution. I'm still looking for that. On Tuesday 03 April 2001 3:40 pm, Shawn Garbett wrote: I couldn't browse a secure website under Konqueror that I just installed 2.1.1. The web site mentions on kde mentions needing an OpenSSL installed. Which Debian package should I grab for this? Where do I get it? I looked for such in the sid distro of Debian and couldn't find it. Shawn Garbett -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: Konqueror and Secure pages
Like what I already have installed on the box? That's kind of my point... ii kdebase-crypto 2.1.1-0.potato KDE core applications (Crypto modules) On Tuesday 03 April 2001 08:13, Guillermo Castro wrote: Maybe you should try to install the kdebase-crypto package. I think with that, you should be set... Guillermo - Original Message - From: Shawn Garbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Konqueror and Secure pages I couldn't browse a secure website under Konqueror that I just installed 2.1.1. The web site mentions on kde mentions needing an OpenSSL installed. Which Debian package should I grab for this? Where do I get it? I looked for such in the sid distro of Debian and couldn't find it. Shawn Garbett -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
konqeror bugs of note *stable*
Ivan, Have found the following bugs still present in konq: SSL support not functioning https://money.bankamerica.com/cgi-bin/cob/1YlXjtbiPDfjNjqfCRowEQO5v8uU0rS_W8Zkryv918403/2/bofa/ibd/COB/presentation/GotoLobby This is a secure bank account site not accessible via konq, but nutscrape does fine. (This, of course uses password control) Double downloads are again required to save any currently rendered images, ie. if you decide to save a picture off a webpage it slowly re-downloads the entire image to save it. Did the latest updates at 5 pm 4/5/2001 PST. Thanks -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: At a loss with kppp
Hello, Since you are using debian, you still may wish to give pppconfig a shot. I am using now for my machine and use the 'demand dialing'. All I do is run pon after I boot up the box. This sets up pppd to automatically log onto my ISP whenever I need outside routing. It hangs up the line after a set period of time that you set up during the pppconfig for your account. I attempted to use kppp on kde 2.0.. It would sometimes work and sometimes not. Since I couldn't trace it down I just used debians built in pon/poff. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. On Friday 23 March 2001 13:15, Pablo de Vicente wrote: El Vie 23 Mar 2001 18:08, Victor escribió: After having used kde 2.01 on a redhat box for a year or so, I've installed the latest release of kde 2.1 stable for debian potato on my new PC and go on using kmail as my favourite mail reader. Unfortunately, kppp doesn't run correctly both as a user and as root. After dialing the phone number, it connects giving info about the connection but immediately stop declaring pppd died unexpectedly - exit status 1 (I had a look at man pppd but this is an extremely generic error) . Neither is /var/log/messages more helpful: it says : terminating on signal 15. I had a go at chmod u+s /usr/bin/kppp and at giving all the users the same dip group. No success. Could you please help me with it? Try to use 'pon' and 'poff', to check if the problem comes from kppp or pppd. pon connects you to your ISP and poff disconnects you from your provider. 'pppconfig' will help you to configure your PPP ISP connection. You may have a look at /var/log/ppp.log for debugging purposes. All those programs come from package ppp. Pablo de Vicente. -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: Konqueror 2.1.0.1 doesn't like the Apple Store
Rick, I am using the i386/potato/latest kde and this url works on my box without a fuss. On Friday 23 March 2001 08:13, Rick Cook wrote: Ivan, Konqueror on at least i386 (I forgot to check powerpc last night) has stopped working with the Apple Store: http://store.apple.com/ This includes the not yet released 2.1.1. Rick -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: anyone having problems with noatun?
Hiya Tim, I just tested it here. First, noatun DOES run now, which it didn't 2 upgrades ago :) I fired up top and then fired up the player. mp3's are using about 12% and mpg files about 30% - which is pretty damned good considering. It doesn't appear to support avi files. Box here is a potato wid 2.2.17 and latest from Ivan for kde. Box is a 450pIII with 128mb. On Monday 19 March 2001 17:42, Tim Kelley wrote: I'm running the ltest KDE2.1 with potato. Lately (I can't remember after which update) whenever I try to play a file accosiated with kde media player (noatun) my cpu goes straight to 100% and nothing else happens. I've tried playing files from the terminal to see if anything useful ... I get this: noatun ./blah.mpg ** Warning ** unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/mcop-tpk/pimp_winkinc_com-0220-3ab69d5d) Launched ok, pid = 1214 ** Warning ** unix_connect: can't connect to server (unix:/tmp/mcop-tpk/pimp_winkinc_com-0220-3ab69d5d) I am running artsd, ps ax gives me this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps ax | grep art 1214 ?R 0:28 artsd -F 5 -S 4096 -d -b 16 ls -l /tmp mcop-tpk/ gives me this (excuse the wrapping): total 6 -rw---1 tpk tpk 206 Mar 19 19:37 Arts_AudioManager -rw---1 tpk tpk 206 Mar 19 19:37 Arts_MidiManager -rw---1 tpk tpk 206 Mar 19 19:37 Arts_PlayObjectFactory -rw---1 tpk tpk 206 Mar 19 19:37 Arts_SimpleSoundServer -rw---1 tpk tpk 206 Mar 19 19:37 Arts_SoundServer srwxr-xr-x1 tpk tpk 0 Mar 19 17:59 pimp_winkinc_com-0220-3ab69d5d srwxr-xr-x1 tpk tpk 0 Mar 19 19:37 pimp_winkinc_com-04be-3ab6b461 -rw---1 tpk tpk32 Mar 19 17:59 secret-cookie is anyone else having problems? All I can do at this point is killall -9 artsd. At some point everything was working fine -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: Click to minimize
Actually you can. It's not consistant. When my box boots up, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is autostarted. sometimes it will minimize others it won't. if you right click, then you can minimize that way then the next time it works just fine! It's one of the really fun bugs :) On Wednesday 14 March 2001 08:13, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: Another funny bug: it seems you can no longer (was working in 2.0) minimize a window by clicking its name on the panel, unless the window is the focused window. -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: KMail under BlackBox
Hey, This is a problem. I would file a bug report if it hasn't already been filed. As a work around (faster then killing bb and starting kde), use mpack/munpack. Just save the email in a temp directory, then in an xterm, 'munpack filename'.. Tada, there is your attachment(s) cleanly seperated from the email. Save the whole message, not the attachment. hth ~ pts/4 apt-cache search mpack mpack - Tools for encoding/decoding MIME messages. On Monday 12 March 2001 11:56, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Ivan, This is the mail I warned you of, earlier. :--) No disrespect intended, in any way/shape/form, but when I'm on my laptop (and often at work) I run BB for my GUI due to speed and memory usage. As it stands now, when I'm in BB and using KMail, I find that I've lost the ability to save or view an attachment. The only options offered are COPY TO CLIPBOARD, or OPEN URL. Subsequently, I ask you (and the mail list) if this is the correct forum to address this question in. When I recieve E-mail with an attachment while running my laptop, I have been restarting into KDE to 'manipulate' the attachment. Which wasn't much of a problem until now. I'm assisting two clients in some webpage design, and we've been mailing gif/jpeg/png files back and forth. While I'd love to run KDE all the time, this poor ole box just doesn't have the right stuff anymore. :--) So, please, can we look into this? - -- ___ ___ OutCast Computer Consultants of Central Oregon http://outcast-consultants.redmond.or.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 504-1388 Via IRC at; 205.227.115.251:6667:#OutCasts Via ICQ: UIN 138930 Failure is not an option...it's bundled with Microsoft -anonymous- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: 1SNEwSvXnzssEFNp1BnvKiDq/qujHx83 iQA/AwUBOq0p7whnWicv+0tKEQIyDgCfSYOAYi4fRmPiyT28KIn/bSbR8WwAn0j3 rAW7jeSiuFeI9gXHIIRZq/Mv =9svv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: kmail spellcheck
John, Did you upgrade from kde1x? If so, you no longer get a spellcheck Icon, but under EDIT you will find spellcheck when you start a new message etc. regards On Friday 02 March 2001 07:28, John R. Greer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have just installed kde2.1 and I no longer have the ability to spellcheck in my kmail messages. Am I missing a package or??? Potato, kmail 1.2 using kde 2.1 TIA! - - -john -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOp+8JV2HhW8Y9AcJEQI1GwCg38VcHV69VhXuwVKd01QF3MB4ho4AoOYi kdv99OB/FVTFULS/T7lVn2pv =FetF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: noatun crashes?
Robert, A serious problem in your source list. Where is SECURITY updates? This is so important. Add this line today: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free Run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dselect-upgrade Then get back to your problem at hand :) On Tuesday 27 February 2001 07:07, Robert Guthrie wrote: On Monday 26 February 2001 08:38, Trevor Phillips wrote: Subject sums it up, basically. I've just upgraded to Potato KDE2.1-final, and installed noatun (the apparently wonderful new media player), and it crashes when I try to run it (no app window shows at all - just get the kcrash window). My sidekick has the same problem on his PC too... Does this work for anyone? Is there a problem with the package? I was curious if noatun was even installed on my system (most of kde was removed by dselect, and task-kde had unmet dependencies, so I'm reconstructing kde piece-by-piece), so I tried apt-get install noatun #noatun: Depends: arts but it is not going to be installed apt-get install arts #arts: Depends: libmpeglib0 (= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is not going to be installed apt-get install libmpeglib0 # libmpeglib0: Depends: libogg0 but it is not installable #Depends: libvorbis0 but it is not installable apt-get install libogg0 libvorbis0 # Package libogg0 has no available version, but exists in the database. # Package libogg0 has no installation candidate Am I missing something in my sources.list entries? deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto qt1apps optional deb ftp://ftp.stealth.net/debianstable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: New KDE packages ...
Right. It happened here too. after I ran my 'apt' lines, I then ran dselect which picked up the rest of the held back packages. all was spiffy then. :) tatah On Tuesday 27 February 2001 07:55, Bud Rogers wrote: On Tuesday 27 February 2001 06:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to update my kde (to 2.1) for my potato, but it seems that most packages cannot be installed. apt-get update apt-get upgrade give me: The following packages have been kept back abbrowser ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kcron kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdepasswd kdm kedit keystone kfind kfloppy kghostview khexedit kit kjots knotes konqueror konsole korganizer kpackage kpm ksysctrl ksysv ktalkd ktimemon kuser kview libkonq3 libminimagick5 libqt2.2 secpolicy 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. Need to get 3840kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] I got the same thing, so I tried apt-get dist-upgrade. That downloaded about 30 megs of stuff, starting with abbrowser and going right down the alphabetical list of kde packages. -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Thank you and bravo!
Ivan, Is wonderful the new gui you brought to us. Thank you for your time and great work. Many bugs have met with death :) Three cheers for Ivan! -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: noatun crashes?
trevor, Noatun is running here. Running stable 2.2.17 and kde2.1. Is kind of neat, but doesn't do nice to mpg files :) tatah On Monday 26 February 2001 18:38, Trevor Phillips wrote: Subject sums it up, basically. I've just upgraded to Potato KDE2.1-final, and installed noatun (the apparently wonderful new media player), and it crashes when I try to run it (no app window shows at all - just get the kcrash window). My sidekick has the same problem on his PC too... Does this work for anyone? Is there a problem with the package? -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: noatun crashes?
It's hard to say Trevor. It ran on kde 2.01, died on 2.1beta, came back to life on 2.1b2 and on 2.1! I just kinda shrugged and decided it didn't matter too much. I'm still dealing with the arts mega delay syndrome. I use xmms and it's happy with the xmmsarts pluggin, but I see movement on the display and finally sound follows between 2 to 3 seconds... If I use the esound or OSS pluggin, it is real time.. I think more developement will resolve this too. :) Good luck on your upgrade - hope it comes together well for you. On Monday 26 February 2001 21:32, Trevor Phillips wrote: Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: trevor, Noatun is running here. Running stable 2.2.17 and kde2.1. Is kind of neat, but doesn't do nice to mpg files :) Hmmm. Well, I suppose I don't have a *pure* potato - I have bits of Woody to run X4.0.2, and kernel 2.4.1. But I've always used the Potato KDE packages with no problems till now. Maybe it's time to take the plunge and go the whole woody. ^_^;; -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: Bash Prompts???
Hello Robert,
I will make no warranty of this, but ... I use the Konsole virtual
terminal and really enjoy it's power. I love that I can open one term,
and have 100 more in the same window - how cool can it get! What I did to
get the things to read my settings was: konsole %i %m -caption %c --ls
Notice the '--ls' on the end. How I did it, was to right click on my konsole
icon on the taskbar and then clicked on the Execute tab. See if that makes
it mo-better for you. BTW, Konsole also supports the 'transparent konsole'
option, so it will display your desktop thru the vt :) It's really the
little things grin
My user prompt:
{bogus} U=jaye
Dir=~ pts/2$
My root prompt:
YOU ARE ROOT!! on bogus
~ pts/1
tatah
On Thursday 08 February 2001 09:39, Robert Tilley wrote:
I've visited some bash prompt sites that give examples of these neato and
wiz-bang prompts that my terminal is supposed to be capable of displaying.
Problem: In none of the shells I've tried (konsole, xterm, etc.) these
artful additions to be .bashrc files have produced nothing. The only
result is continued display of a boring and pathetic (to me) command-line.
While I'm not trying to have my terminal play the Stars Stripes whenever
I hit ENTER, some minor display of information would be useful. Things
such as the time, current directory, etc. would be good to have on my
screen.
One such site is http://www.interlog.com/~giles/bashprompt/prompts/. Is
there a KDE console/terminal program which will display these?
Robert Tilley
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Re: konqueror post beta2: signal 11 caused by .pdf
Yup, here too running potato with 2.1beta2. acroread opens it fine. On Thursday 01 February 2001 17:31, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:23:51PM +0100, Wolfgang Franke wrote: Trying to load a .pdf file causes always a signal 11. BTW is this the right forum for posting such reports or should I send them to the developers of konqueror directly? it's not a konq problem...well, konq shouldnt' dump due to this...but it appears to be a gs problem. konq just uses kghostview which uses gs. Ivan -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: Kmail won't send?
John, No bother. BTW, some ISP's are switching to POP3 before SMTP authintication. This is a non-standardized way to help reduce spamming. Have seen several posts by irritated people regarding this implementation... So, make sure you CHECK mail before trying to send mail. Hope your ISP figures out the problems too. tatah On Thursday 01 February 2001 12:00, John Gay wrote: Seems this was an ISP problem. I couldn't figure out how I could download mails but not send them when kmail only uses the one set of username and password for both and I had the server nomes and port right. It seems my ISP is having random problems accepting mails? Some times it works and sometimes it doesn't. Sorry for bothering anyone -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: Problem with kword
Hello, I found this quirk yesterday. You fix didn't help btw. I did several attempts to print an Email from kmail.. I toggled it back and forth several times and FINALLY, I was able to click the 'OK' button. 2.1 is fun :) On Thursday 18 January 2001 08:38, Joaquim Ortega-Cerda wrote: Get the latest qt libraries qt2.2 (2:2.2.3-6), the problem is fixed. As a workaround you can select print in a file then select again print in the printer and the accept button will become active. Quim === Joaquim Ortega-Cerdà E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dept. App. Math. Analysis Phone: (34)-93 4035747 Universitat de Barcelona Fax: (34)-93 4021601 Gran Via 585 08071 BARCELONA, SPAIN WWW: http://www.maia.ub.es/cag/index.html === On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Brian Schramm wrote: I cannot print from kword. I call up the print funtion and the ok button is shadowed out. I have tried this from 2 user accounts so I do not think it is anything in my setups. Is this a known bug or should I tell someone about it? Thanks -- Brian Schramm http://www.linuxexpert.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: kde.tdyc.com upgrades
Ivan, You Rock! Will look forward to using the new kde.tdyc.com. Tatah and thank you On Thursday 18 January 2001 15:42, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: hey all, I've been skimming on disk space for a bit now...and was about to announce my plans to nuke the KDE 1.1.x packages...but I got good news a bit ago...a new box for me to play with...kde.tdyc.com is getting moved to a new box with alot more disk space (20 gig drive actually) so expect some downtime in the next 24-48 hours...not sure exactly when it'll happen. Ivan -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: KDE and testing
Patrick, I just did it today. It is very easy to add the single word to your sources 'beta'. I used apt-get and was a little mystified to see that EVERYTHING kde was removed and nothing was added :) So, off to dselect land and reselected the 2.1 packages and it did it's trick. I Missed some stuff the first pass and when back to it again. I really like it though! The look and feel works WAY WAY better and I finally have an appropriate startup sound file :) Games didn't come back and I'm gonna post a message about that next. my pain rating for this is .1 out of a possible 5 :) tatah On Tuesday 09 January 2001 13:03, Patrick K Notz wrote: Hi, I'm considering moving from 'potato' to 'testing' but I thought I should see if anyone would like to share their experiences with KDE and 'testing' (or even just 'testing'). Also, what are the appropriate sources.list lines that one should use for the KDE packages that go with 'testing'? (I know KDE is to be a part of woody, and hence testing, but I didn't know if that was in place yet.) Thanks - pat -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074268-4074//www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
2.1 and games
Hello, I added the 2.1 to my potato box - wow! Great work Ivan. The only drawback is I must have my games back. Didn't find them in dselect, perhaps I'm too blind to see the oblivious? Or is there a painless apt-get file I can snag and return my games? tnx and best regards -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074268-4074//www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: 2.1 and games
Ivan, Using dselect again, I attempted to gain the toys/games back. That resulted in a large loss of what I had just installed - guess it wasn't a sanitary idea. Dselect is again downloading all the packages to RE-install. I don't understand how I am supposed to snag the toys/games for 2.1 - or is this what you are saying - they are not going to work on 2.1? tnx and sorry for the abusive ignorance On Tuesday 09 January 2001 17:54, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: The only drawback is I must have my games back. Didn't find them in dselect, perhaps I'm too blind to see the oblivious? Or is there a painless apt-get file I can snag and return my games? so..the drawback.. :) they are there. I just did not put them in the task-kde package...I probably should add them to the suggests line. My rational for this: As maintainer of these packages I have the role of presenting someone else's work. In this case it's the KDE. Well, when I cleaned up the task packages I decided that the contents of kdegames and kdetoys are not a part of that environment. Actually I would not consider most of the kde* programs part of the KDE. Most of them are *for* the KDE. So..I built the task-kde package to reflect a set of KDE based applications that would enhance that environment...this includes all the admin, network, and utilitiy packages. I dropped audio apps into the Suggests section along with any apps that are more system dependent (kppp, klpq, klaptopdaemon) and packages out of my control (quanta). (oh..and -crypto packages). Games and Toys are the least important of all the packages. ***warning*** This is my opinion. :) ***end warning*** I chose not to include them in the task package at the time. (I'll probably add them to the suggests) The individual packages are still there and can be installed like any other game. Ivan -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074 http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: kicq available
Ivan, Was/is kicq the official icq client for kde? I am sure I had seen this published at one time. I really liked the original version but licq really rocks too. Tnx and best regards On Thursday 04 January 2001 01:31, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: ok...I finally got some time and patience to take a proper look at kicq...and I have .deb's. I found a way around the problems with gcc and the way in which kicq handles it's build and have produced both potato and unstable packages for kicq. They are up on kde.tdyc.com. now...someone was working on this...(the reason why I got involved even was due to this person having the problems I mentioned above)...would whoever it was let me know whether this was for a official package or not...I didn't see any ITP's for kicq...I'll upload it if there is no other intention to do so as I'll use it. :) It looks quite nice so far. Anyways...the unstable deb is almost done uploading to kde.tdyc.com and the potato one is building. Ivan -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-268-4074268-4074//www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
keystone - Silly but whatzit?
Hello, Keystone was just update - didn't know I had it - but it runs and has absolutely no docs - man pages etc. what is keystone? -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: Brain dead question!
Bart, Or anyone for that matter - can you suggest a site for reading up on what kdm/xdm does. Why one would load this. what it does, what it's for etc. I have never had a firm understanding of any of it and I would like to learn much more about it, but never found any place to learn about it. The books I have don't talk about them at all. Thank you. On Sunday 17 December 2000 09:41, Bart Oldeman wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: if you use kdm just log in using kde2 ..dont' use default. (this is just a tip: I'm sure Ivan already knows this ...) unless you want to have your ~/.xsession executed: then you _have_ to use default; important if you want to have some environment variables set up at startup. kdm's shutdown button works properly now by the way. And what's that? kdm's configuration panel suddenly has some convenience settings: Enable automatic login, truly automatic login, enable password-less logins, show previous user. Hmm. Reminds me of something else ;-) I'll still have to check out kdm's chooser: it seems to be quite broken at this time: chooser BROADCAST works for xdm's chooser, but for kdm's chooser it says: chooser: Unexpected argument 'BROADCAST'. chooser: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. and the --help does not help: gives generic qt and kde options. Is there a way to avoid this, or should I just drop in xdm's chooser. I might just do a bug report for kdm at kde. I could have sworn I had explained this several times already. Yes you have. Bart -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: vote
Ivan, I think we have been test dummies for kde as it is now - so I guess I would vote for option 1 as long as it doesn't complete wipe out kmail - :) Thank you On Thursday 14 December 2000 22:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: ok... Potato users be heard (woody users are stuck with what I give you) :) option 1: upgrade potato .deb's to 2.1-beta1+ (ie..move from stable to cvs snapshots as I am doing with woody) option 2: create a seperate repository on kde.tdyc.com for kde 2.1 potato .deb's. option 3: wait for 2.1's release to do potato debs (note...when I start making 2.1 debs for potato I will no longer be able to make 2.0.1 debs) Due to my network snafu I ended up being a day behind in uploads for woody.. which actually ends up being a good thing. :) (at least IMO)...in the 24hrs to follow beta1 a bunch of bug fixes have been made including one very annoying one with email configuration. (plus 24hrs more of me cleaning things up) so..your choice. Ivan -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
taskbar quirk
From the kde help: However you can change this behavior. Right click the Taskbar handle and choose Preferences. You can check the Show all windows checkbox if you want to see all windows no matter what virtual desktop they reside on. Check the Run outside of panel checkbox to separate Taskbar from the Kicker panel; you --- can also specify the position where the separate Taskbar appears.' This is interesting. my system does NOT have this check box. I have a SHOW ALL WINDOWS check box and then below that I have location unfortunately, I can not alter it since it is 'greyed' out. So, really, how does one remove the taskbar from the launch bar? Loved old kde for it :) -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
apt err
Hello, Just looked over all the updates on the list. I have the line: 'deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crytpo' in my source list but I'm getting this error on apt-get update;apt-get upgrade: Hit http://kde.tdyc.com potato/main Release Err http://kde.tdyc.com potato/crytpo Packages 404 Not Found Ign http://kde.tdyc.com potato/crytpo Release Fetched 22.7kB in 5s (3917B/s) Failed to fetch http://kde.tdyc.com/dists/potato/crytpo/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found Reading Package Lists... Done Did I mess up my source line? tia -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
update/upgrade
Hello, I wonder if I need to change my source for kde2? I'm getting an error for kde and it looks like the server is up. BTW, I wonder if I am missing any important sources? Failed to fetch ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/dists/potato/kde2/binary-i386/Packages Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/kde/dists/potato/kde2/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory. ' My current source.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 Tia -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
