Re: debian lenny (current): refusing to install kde

2009-07-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 10 July 2009 06:45:57 Wim de Vries wrote:
> Anyhow. Re-installed with Gnome. Its is a system with a 4 Gig SSD 'hard
> disk'. So, before installing kde, I had to remove a lot of apps to make
> space for Kde downloads. After that, instructed apt to remove gnome and
> install kde in one go.
> Now finally I have Kde back, but I have a slight feeling that's not the
> standard way to install Debian-Kde ;-).

I used a non-standard way last time I installed KDE, that was slightly less 
long-winded:

Install without a desktop.  Then edit sources.list and:

aptitude install KDE

Go and do something else for a bit.

Check that everything mission-critical is there.  If not install.

In my case:

aptitude install cups k3b

Lisi


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Re: How to keep KDE at 3.5 in Sid installations.

2009-05-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 20 May 2009 16:22:34 Mike Bird wrote:
> We can no longer run Testing anywhere.  Eventually I expect we'll run
> into video driver problems on new hardware but thus far we've been OK
> with Lenny.

Hopefully by then XFCE will be fully usable.  It is well on the way.  Nowhere 
near as nice as KDE3.5, of course, but it has a huge head start on KDE4.

Lisi


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Lenny with KDE 3.5.10 on 256MB memory

2009-05-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
This is, I know, below the recommended amount of RAM (512MB), but comfortably 
above the minimum.

Has anyone any experience of how well or badly this actually runs?

TIA
Lisi


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Re: KDE 4 simply broken

2009-05-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 14 May 2009 22:02:45 Mike Bird wrote:
> An ENORMOUS thank you to the KDE team for leaving KDE 3.5 in Lenny.

I fully echo that.

Lisi


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Re: KDE 4 simply broken

2009-05-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 14 May 2009 17:05:16 jedd wrote:
>  I simply can't believe that every other unstable user, now using
>  KDE 4, can be having the same types of experiences that I am
>  and not talking (complaining) about them here.

Another whinge, I'm afraid.  From, where I am sitting, you count as one of the 
lucky ones.  Since I installed Sid on my testbed box several weeks ago, I 
have had KDE4 working at all for a total of about 2 or 3 days.  (This last 
update has restored it after another hiatus.)

Fortunately, although a desire to find out for myself if KDE4 was as awful as 
it sounded was my main motivation, I also wanted to have a good look at XFCE4 
and one or two WMs as possible replacements.  I have therefore been able to 
have that good look at XFCE, which I suspect is going to be what I use next, 
anyhow for those I support.  Not that I shall abandon KDE 3.x.x until I am 
dragged off it kicking and screaming.

I found getting rid of the awful new menu was very easy.  (I find moving, 
wobbly, transparent, jumping thinga not only unpleasant but at times actually 
painful.)  And it would appear that I have avoided the worst of the bling, 
tho' that may be false impression due it the very small amount that I have 
managed to do on it at all.  But it seems to be under the impression that 
bling is all-important and functionality an irrelevancy.  I couldn't do even 
the most basic configuration.

I have also convinced myself that I could not possibly manage with Sid on my 
main workhorse and simultaneously remain sane.  I doff my hat to those of you 
who can cope!!

Lisi


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Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.

2009-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 April 2009 20:20:05 Sthu Deus wrote:
> It is Lenny, KDE 3.5.9

Surely it is 3.9.10 in Lenny?  At least, it is here. 

Lisi


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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 April 2009 16:45:55 Dietz Pröpper wrote:
> Lisi Reisz:
> > On Sunday 12 April 2009 01:32:10 George Bodley wrote:
> > > KDE 4.2 is a huge mistake.  I installed it on Sidux and need to look
> > > for a different distro or Desktop.  It really is bad.  You need or
> > > Debian or Sidux needs to give us back our old KDE 3.5
> >
> > Lenny?  Or do you actually need cutting edge?
>
> Isn't it called "bleeding edge" ;-)

Probably my age showing. ;-)

Lisi


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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 April 2009 01:32:10 George Bodley wrote:
> KDE 4.2 is a huge mistake.  I installed it on Sidux and need to look for a
> different distro or Desktop.  It really is bad.  You need or Debian or
> Sidux needs to give us back our old KDE 3.5

Lenny?  Or do you actually need cutting edge?

Lisi


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Re: Lenny setup for grandma

2009-04-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 11 April 2009 17:29:59 Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am setting up a KDE Lenny system for a non-cmd-line user (not really
> grandma though).
>
> Can anybody recommend a
> - graphical package manager? Kubuntu uses adept, but that is not included
> in lenny, KDE ships kpackage, how well is that adapted to Debian? Should I
> go with Synaptic?

I find that Synaptic seems to be easily usable by a non-CLI but not nervous 
user.  I personally much prefer it to Adept.

> - update notifier. update-notifier wants to install a lot of GNOME stuff.
> Is there a KDE alternative?

Is an update notifier really necessary?  A periodic check via Synaptic is very 
easy, and either the user could be asked to do it periodically or you could 
do it when you visit.  (You don't say how much access you will have to the 
computer once it is with its owner/user.)

Avoid having any non-necessary Gnome stuff on in the first place, then 
hopefully it will not get updated!

HTH
Lisi


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Re: [ANN] KDE 4.2 moving to unstable *this* week

2009-04-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 06 April 2009 15:22:02 Manolete, ese artista... wrote:
> Well, paraphrasing Socrates I'd say that in the "fair medium" (or whatever
> it is in English) is the virtue. I think most users ask only because many
> times those info omissions don't seem to do any good at all, but involve
> this packaging process into an "obscure" atmosphere where no one but
> packagers know what is happening and what fate has in store for us, mortal
> users.

For goodness sake!  I would expect a two year old to show more patience when 
waiting for a sweetie.  You were told that 4.2.2 would make it to Sid soon - 
I think that this week was mentioned.  That should be enough.

If you want timed releases, switch to Ubuntu.  I think Ubuntu tells you not 
only the date but also the time of day.  The developers here (unlike some of 
those at Ubuntu) are voluteers and are not paid.  They develop for the love 
of it.  They are not our servants to be driven by slave drivers.  I _like_ 
the Debian development model.  I like the choice of old stable, stable, 
testing, Sid and experimental.  I am grateful for the marvellous job done by 
the developers.

The developers have better things to do with their time than answer 
endless "Are we there yet?"s from the rest of us.

If you can't stop yourself fidgetting, get some worry beads.

My 2p.
Lisi


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Re: Debian 5 with kde 3.5 (basic install)

2009-03-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 09 March 2009 16:25:35 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > Debian 5 is released with KDE3.5 but seems without support any more
>
> a
>
> > pity, but ce la vie :-)
>
> I don't believe this to be the case.  Upstream may not be supporting
> KDE 3.5 anymore, but by including it in stable/main, Debian has
> committed to the standard level of support for KDE 3.5 throughout the
> lifetime of Lenny.

I am using Debian 5 with KDE 3.5.10.  Rock solid still, with the exception of 
a couple of new, minor, but occasionally irritating, glitches in KMail.  

But I can't speak as to the vagaries of numlock because I don't use it much.  
It is currently off, or rather, the light is, but I have no idea what happens 
when I boot up.  I'll try to remember to look next time I am booting.

Lisi

P.S. I have just checked.  Numlock is indeed off.


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Re: Debian 5 with kde 3.5 (basic install)

2009-03-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 March 2009 23:29:36 Valerio Passini wrote:
> And remember: google is your friend. In other words: even if you are new to
> Linux and/or Debian, search always by yourself a solution at the best of
> your possibilities and only when you have not found one, ask for help.

In her/his original posting requesting help, (s)he said that (s)he 
had "googled a lot", but been unable to find the answer.

Lisi


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Re: Reseting Konqueror Home-Directory Settings

2009-02-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 20 February 2009 17:55:09 Chris wrote:
> I have a Lenny system.  When I use the Home Icon Konqueror opens the
> directory as a list.   I can't get it to open with with icon view anymore. 
> Reseting the view profiles also strangeley does not seem to help.
>
> Does anyon know where this setting is hidden away?

View -> view mode -> 

HTH
Lisi


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Problems with KDE/KMail

2008-12-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
I originally sent this email to the debian-users list, but someone
there said that I ought to move the thread here.

My current set-up:
Debian Lenny
KDE 3.5.10
KMail 1.9.9

KMail has been broken since the upgrade to 3.5.10 from 3.5.9.
Everything works, so far as I can tell, except POP3, but that is a
rather big except. :-(  I can manage with my email on Gmail protem,
but it is becoming a real problem.

I have been waiting patiently for an upgrade to fix this, but in spite of two
occasions when a large number of KDE updates were applied, the situation has
if anything deteriorated.

When Lenny updated OOo to 2.4.1 OOo was broken for about a fortnight.  So
should I just sit tight?

I have attempted to purge and install KMail with the following result (0), but
have so far refused the offer of so extreme a solution as that proposed by
aptitude.  Particularly as, if the break is at present in Lenny rather than
localised here, I would simply get back where I am until the problem is
fixed.

What does the list advise that I should do?  I could obviously switch
to a different email client, I would rather revert to Etch than do
without KMail.


TIA
Lisi

(0)
localhost:/home/user# aptitude purge KMail && aptitude install kmail
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
 kdepim kmailcvt
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 kmail{p}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 8270kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kdepim: Depends: kmail (>= 4:3.5.9-5) but it is not installable
 kmailcvt: Depends: kmail (>= 4:3.5.9-5) but it is not installable
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
kde
kdepim
kmailcvt

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
kontact recommends kmail
Score is -663

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Writing extended state information... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done

localhost:/home/user#


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