Re: New packages changes

2003-01-23 Thread Brre Gaup
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duorastat, oajagemnu 23. b. 2003 01.39, Marc Schiffbauer don llet:
 * Frank Mehnert schrieb am 22.01.03 um 17:46 Uhr:
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 But it does not work for me :-(
 It seems to me that the .xsession file is not being used here...

 -Marc
I have been bitten by this one, too. (My .xsession file wasn't used).
I seem to remember I had to choose default session in kdm, the other ones  
(kde3, blackbox, etc) uses the system Xsession.

Brre Gaup, Kiruna, Sweden
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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
  BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change
 
  /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers
 
  add lines like these:
  # Examples for multiple local X displays:
  # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16
  # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8
 
  :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7
  :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8
  :
  :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9
  :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10

^
 it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;)

Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with 1 
session :-)


  the reserve is the point :-)
 
  You could also use /etc/X11/X though,

 hmm, is this really the suggested way of invoking an x server?
 this is a helper link of the debian config system, which i thought
 is not supposed to be used directly. time to read the policy, i guess

s -l /etc/X11/X
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   20 Dec  7 21:44 /etc/X11/X - 
/usr/bin/X11/XFree86

mind that I use XFree 4.2.1 on my laptop, I hope this is working reliable 
then, ossi - don't you think we could add those lines per default into the 
debian Xservers file for KDM and comment them out with hashes ?

Ralf
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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:53, Achim Bohnet wrote:
  add lines like these:
  # Examples for multiple local X displays:
  # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16
  # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8
 
  :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7
  :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8
  :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9
  :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10

  ^ should be :1 :2 :3
 not :1 :1 :1

 Maybe a note would not bad that multiple X servers need N times the
 graphic memory (something like N * 4 * Xres * Yres * (32bpp / 8) bytes
 with dri AFAIR)  Depending on the screen size 64 MB are nothing ;)

That means, if you have an AGP aperture size of 32 mb it will take another 32 
mb also  for AGP cards ? Or is that only limited to this calculation ?


 Just another topic for your README file is  how to start  ssh-askpass-gnome
 on session login.   AFAIR I've lost this when I purge 2.2.2 for 3.0 update.
 Maybe someone has a good idea how to integrate this into kdm the debian
 way.
I never used 2.2.2 on woody so I don't know what's the specifics there and 
what ssh-askpass-gnome is. Could you come up with more details and an 
explanation what ssh-askpass-gnome is ?

Ralf

 Achim

  the reserve is the point :-) You could also use /etc/X11/X though, I just
  did a copy paste from somewhere else :-)
 
  Ralf
 
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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:12, Tom Badran wrote:
 On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 11:33 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
  As a side notice: gpg-agent doesn't exit when you leave your X session.
  To kill it, place a script chmod 755 into ~/.kde/shutdown (I should make
  a note to that trick, too on my README).

 I was just using:

 killall gpg-agent
 eval `gpg-agent --daemon`

 .. to start gpg-agent and make sure its 'fresh' ;). I couldnt get my
 .xsession to do anything so i just put that in /usr/bin/startkde after the
 ksplash line.

On the matter of ~/.xsession - If you have a look into 

cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start

does it say:

exec $REALSTARTUP

or

exec $REALSTARTUP

? The latter is wrong but appeared in some versions of XFree shipped with 
debian AFAIK, but I only have the first one which should work (which is XFree 
4.2.1). If that works for you to change this, I'd add that to the README too.

Ralf

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:43 Uhr:
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 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
   BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change
  
   /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers
  
   add lines like these:
   # Examples for multiple local X displays:
   # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16
   # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8
  
   :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7
   :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8
   :
   :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9
   :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10
 
 ^
  it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;)
 
 Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with 1 
 session :-)
 

Hi Ralf,

I added those line to the file. But how can I test it? What is the
difference now?
And waht exactly does the reserve do?


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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:49, Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
 * Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:43 Uhr:
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  On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
   On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change
   
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers
   
add lines like these:
# Examples for multiple local X displays:
# :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16
# :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8
   
:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7
:1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8
:
:2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9
:3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10
  
  ^
   it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;)
  
  Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with 1 
  session :-)
  
 
 Hi Ralf,
 
 I added those line to the file. But how can I test it? What is the
 difference now?
 And waht exactly does the reserve do?

I can only report what I've seen:  Without reserve all the X server
would be started when kdm starts.   With reserve they are started on request
when you use in the K-menu  'Start New Session' (above 'logout user' and 
'lock
screen').   It also looks like that the additional xserver is kill after some
timeout when no one is logging in or when one logs out from these additional
screens.

Achim
 
 
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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 10:49, Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
 * Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:43 Uhr:
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  On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:28, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
   On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X,
change
   
/etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers
   
add lines like these:
# Examples for multiple local X displays:
# :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16
# :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8
   
:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7
:1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8
:
:2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9
:3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10
  
  ^
   it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;)
 
  Thanks, I only did it the quick and dirty way :-) and just testet it with
  1 session :-)

 Hi Ralf,

 I added those line to the file. But how can I test it? What is the
 difference now?
 And waht exactly does the reserve do?
It sets a display on reserve without opening it, i.e. it opens it on demand. 
To use the feature, you need to lock your screen. Then you will see a new 
button right from the password input to unlock the screen which says Start 
new session. Click on that button and it will open a new KDM login on the 
first reserved vt, i.e. on vt8. You can then log in as a different user 
(which is extremely useful in families if you don't want to close your 
session just because your wife bugs you because she wants to play kpat or 
check her mail, also for your kids). To switch between the screens use 
Alt+Ctrl+F7 / F8 / F9 etc.

Ralf



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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Ralf Nolden schrieb am 22.01.03 um 07:51 Uhr:
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 On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:12, Tom Badran wrote:
  On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 11:33 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
   As a side notice: gpg-agent doesn't exit when you leave your X session.
   To kill it, place a script chmod 755 into ~/.kde/shutdown (I should make
   a note to that trick, too on my README).
 
  I was just using:
 
  killall gpg-agent
  eval `gpg-agent --daemon`
 
  .. to start gpg-agent and make sure its 'fresh' ;). I couldnt get my
  .xsession to do anything so i just put that in /usr/bin/startkde after the
  ksplash line.
 
 On the matter of ~/.xsession - If you have a look into 
 
 cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start
 
 does it say:
 
 exec $REALSTARTUP
 
 or
 
 exec $REALSTARTUP
 
 ? The latter is wrong but appeared in some versions of XFree shipped with 
 debian AFAIK, but I only have the first one which should work (which is XFree 
 4.2.1). If that works for you to change this, I'd add that to the README too.
 


This is correct here (exec $REALSTARTUP). I'm trying to make
gpg-agent start on login but this seems more difficult than I
thought.

Putting an

eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)

into my ~/.xsession does not help. gpg-agent is not running after
login. .xsession is executable.

Then I tried to put a small Script into ~/.kde/Autostart. Now
gpg-agent is running after login, but KDE knows nothing about the
GPG_AGENT_INFO variable (tested with Alt-F2 -- env  /tmp/env.log)

Any hints on how to make that work?

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 13:28, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 22 January 2003 07:48, Ralf Nolden wrote:
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  On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 01:53, Achim Bohnet wrote:
add lines like these:
# Examples for multiple local X displays:
# :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16
# :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8
   
:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X :0 vt7
:1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8
:2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9
:3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10
  
^ should be :1 :2 :3
   not :1 :1 :1
  
   Maybe a note would not bad that multiple X servers need N times the
   graphic memory (something like N * 4 * Xres * Yres * (32bpp / 8) bytes
   with dri AFAIR)  Depending on the screen size 64 MB are nothing ;)
  
  That means, if you have an AGP aperture size of 32 mb it will take another 
  32 
  mb also  for AGP cards ? Or is that only limited to this calculation ?
 
 Sorry I don't understand what you mean. Here's my case maybe this help.
 worked on :0 and with DIR enabled.   I once setup a second display :1 on the
 same Radeon APG card to login into an test account.  I wondered why it
 was much slower.  Checking /var/log/Xfree.1.log told me not enough memory
 for DRI.
 
  
   Just another topic for your README file is  how to start  
   ssh-askpass-gnome
   on session login.   AFAIR I've lost this when I purge 2.2.2 for 3.0 
   update.
   Maybe someone has a good idea how to integrate this into kdm the debian
   way.
  I never used 2.2.2 on woody so I don't know what's the specifics there and 
  what ssh-askpass-gnome is. Could you come up with more details and an 
  explanation what ssh-askpass-gnome is ?
 
 From the manpages:
 
 NAME
  ssh-add - adds RSA or DSA identities to the authentication agent
 [...]
 ENVIRONMENT
  DISPLAY and SSH_ASKPASS
  If ssh-add needs a passphrase, it will read the passphrase from
  the current terminal if it was run from a terminal.  If ssh-add
  does not have a terminal associated with it but DISPLAY and
  SSH_ASKPASS are set, it will execute the program specified by
  SSH_ASKPASS and open an X11 window to read the passphrase.  This
  is particularly useful when calling ssh-add from a .Xsession or
  related script.  (Note that on some machines it may be necessary
  to redirect the input from /dev/null to make this work.)
 
 [...]
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ apt-cache search ssh-askpass
ssh-askpass-gnome - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add
ssh-askpass - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add

 gnome-ssh-askpass just ask for a the ssh passphrase and on 'okay'
 writes it to stdout + \n.  On cancel nothing is writen.
 
 So setting SSH_ASPASS after ssh-agent is running and before (or at the top)
 /usr/bin/kde3 run ssh-add.   This way keybased assccess with sftp,   ssh 
 session
 in rest

Maybe a

$  cat  kde-ssh-askpass
#!/bin/sh
exec kdialog --password 'give me the mantra'
^D

as another (/etc/)alternative for ssh-askpass  would also.

There's only a suble difference:  On cancel gnome version
return '' + retcode 0, kdialog returns \n and retcode 1.

Achim
  
  Ralf
  
   Achim
  
the reserve is the point :-) You could also use /etc/X11/X though, I 
just
did a copy paste from somewhere else :-)
   
Ralf
   
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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Benoit Mortier
Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 22:24, Ralf Nolden a écrit :

 Hi,

hello,

first thanks for all that work..
 
 NB: if you have any other Qt/KDE 3 package that isn't included in
 i386/applications yet which you think is useful and would like to have a
 package for, please notify me.

cdbakeoven
qtinsane (scanner interface for sane, beautiful and full of options)
kio-fish
kjewel

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 15:49, Benoit Mortier wrote:
 Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 22:24, Ralf Nolden a écrit :
  Hi,

 hello,

 first thanks for all that work..

  NB: if you have any other Qt/KDE 3 package that isn't included in
  i386/applications yet which you think is useful and would like to have a
  package for, please notify me.

 cdbakeoven
should be there

 qtinsane (scanner interface for sane, beautiful and full of options)
have to have a look at that.

 kio-fish
included in KDE now, see kioslaves etc. packages.

 kjewel
Have to have a look at that, too.

Please be so kind and provide download URL's :-)

Ralf


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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Frank Mehnert
 This is correct here (exec $REALSTARTUP). I'm trying to make
 gpg-agent start on login but this seems more difficult than I
 thought.

 Putting an

 eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)

 into my ~/.xsession does not help. gpg-agent is not running after
 login. .xsession is executable.

1. add

  allow-user-xsession in /etc/X11/Xsession.options

2. modify your .xsession in the following manner:

  #!/bin/sh
  killall gpg-agent
  eval `/usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon`
  exec /usr/bin/kde3

This should do the job.

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 07:43:47AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
   You could also use /etc/X11/X though,
 
  hmm, is this really the suggested way of invoking an x server?
  this is a helper link of the debian config system, which i thought
  is not supposed to be used directly. time to read the policy, i guess
 
 s -l /etc/X11/X
 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   20 Dec  7 21:44 /etc/X11/X - 
 /usr/bin/X11/XFree86
 
i know. i have the same. ;)
anyway, that does not mean anything. afaik, /usr/bin/X11/X is the
offcial entry point. this wrapper program then uses (or does not use)
the symlink depending on the way it was configured with debconf.

 don't you think we could add those lines per default into the 
 debian Xservers file for KDM and comment them out with hashes ?
 
feel free to do so. i didn't make the feature official yet, as it is not
really ready (joe user does not like alt-ctrl-Fx ...).

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 15:38, Achim Bohnet wrote:
  From the manpages:
 
  NAME
   ssh-add - adds RSA or DSA identities to the authentication agent
  [...]
  ENVIRONMENT
   DISPLAY and SSH_ASKPASS
   If ssh-add needs a passphrase, it will read the passphrase
  from the current terminal if it was run from a terminal.  If ssh-add does
  not have a terminal associated with it but DISPLAY and SSH_ASKPASS are
  set, it will execute the program specified by SSH_ASKPASS and open an X11
  window to read the passphrase.  This is particularly useful when calling
  ssh-add from a .Xsession or related script.  (Note that on some machines
  it may be necessary to redirect the input from /dev/null to make this
  work.)
 
  [...]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ apt-cache search ssh-askpass
 ssh-askpass-gnome - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add
 ssh-askpass - under X, asks user for a passphrase for ssh-add

  gnome-ssh-askpass just ask for a the ssh passphrase and on 'okay'
  writes it to stdout + \n.  On cancel nothing is writen.
 
  So setting SSH_ASPASS after ssh-agent is running and before (or at the
  top) /usr/bin/kde3 run ssh-add.   This way keybased assccess with sftp,  
  ssh session in rest

 Maybe a

 $  cat  kde-ssh-askpass
 #!/bin/sh
 exec kdialog --password 'give me the mantra'
 ^D

 as another (/etc/)alternative for ssh-askpass  would also.

 There's only a suble difference:  On cancel gnome version
 return '' + retcode 0, kdialog returns \n and retcode 1.


Chris,

can you add this and fix your conflicts in arts, kdebase, kdegraphics, 
kdemultimedia please ?

Thanks,

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2003 20:14, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 07:43:47AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:

  don't you think we could add those lines per default into the
  debian Xservers file for KDM and comment them out with hashes ?

 feel free to do so. i didn't make the feature official yet, as it is not
 really ready (joe user does not like alt-ctrl-Fx ...).

Ah, that's why SuSE uses it by default on 8.1 with KDE 3.0.x ? *grin*

Ralf


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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread David Bishop
 me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts support, 
 not alsa support - if you like it different for performance reasons, please 
 speak up :-)

Consider this me speaking up :-)  Alsa is highly discouraged by the
rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues.
I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill
artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to
make it worth it.

Thanks!

D.A.Bishop




Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Frank Mehnert schrieb am 22.01.03 um 17:46 Uhr:
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  This is correct here (exec $REALSTARTUP). I'm trying to make
  gpg-agent start on login but this seems more difficult than I
  thought.
 
  Putting an
 
  eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)
 
  into my ~/.xsession does not help. gpg-agent is not running after
  login. .xsession is executable.
 

Hi Frank!

 1. add
 
   allow-user-xsession in /etc/X11/Xsession.options
 

Ok. This has already been in there.


 2. modify your .xsession in the following manner:
 
   #!/bin/sh
   killall gpg-agent
   eval `/usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon`
   exec /usr/bin/kde3
 

I created exactly the same file (chmod 755)


 This should do the job.


But it does not work for me :-(
It seems to me that the .xsession file is not being used here...

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003 01:09, David Bishop wrote:
  me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts
  support, not alsa support - if you like it different for performance
  reasons, please speak up :-)

 Consider this me speaking up :-)  Alsa is highly discouraged by the
 rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues.
 I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill
 artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to
 make it worth it.

What now ? Alsa or arts preferred ? I didn't get it because of your typos :-)

Ralf

 Thanks!

 D.A.Bishop

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread David Bishop
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 On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003 01:09, David Bishop wrote:
   me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts
   support, not alsa support - if you like it different for performance
   reasons, please speak up :-)
 
  Consider this me speaking up :-)  Alsa is highly discouraged by the
  rosegarden devs, both for performance reasons and sound quality issues.
  I would *definetly* like to have alsa up to par, as it's a pita to kill
  artsd before launching rosegarden, but the difference is big enough to
  make it worth it.
 
 What now ? Alsa or arts preferred ? I didn't get it because of your typos :-)
 
 Ralf

Damn.  Alsa preferred, arts not.  Sorry, just got back from the hospital
after having my fourth child.  Well, *I* didn't have him, my wife did,
but whatever.  My brain has yet to re-engage :-)

D.A.Bishop




Re: New packages changes

2003-01-22 Thread Mario J. Barchéin Molina
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 Damn.  Alsa preferred, arts not.  Sorry, just got back from the
 hospital after having my fourth child.  Well, *I* didn't have him, my
 wife did, but whatever.  My brain has yet to re-engage :-)

Congratulations!

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New packages changes

2003-01-21 Thread Ralf Nolden
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Hi,

I've uploaded a new set of kde-i18n packages, new kdelibs package and some 
other utilities this week like guarddog and kbear, today someone on IRC asked 
me for rosegarden so I added that too (though it's build with arts support, 
not alsa support - if you like it different for performance reasons, please 
speak up :-)

There's three things that I changed in addition:

1. pinentry updated - pinentry-qt had a problem with setting the DISPLAY 
variable, Steffen Hansen sent us a patch that I merged in. The .orig.tar.gz 
from the sources is the same, the diff.gz contains the patch as a separate 
diff file and has, after retrieving and applying the diff.gz with apt-get 
source, the patch applied. Please test pinentry-qt if that works now for you.

2. I also added a ChangeLog lately that I try to keep up-to-date with what I 
add, so you can look for yourself if you see something interesting.

3. The last addition is a file md5sum.txt in kde/woody which has the md5sums 
of my i386 and source directories on my build machines. This may help to 
verify if your packages are the same ones as they are on my machine to ensure 
that you're on the safe side with the sources and the packages that you 
retrieve, especially regarding security issues and the aegypten 
crypto-packages.

NB: if you have any other Qt/KDE 3 package that isn't included in 
i386/applications yet which you think is useful and would like to have a 
package for, please notify me.

Thanks for listening,

Ralf
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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-21 Thread Tom Badran
On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 9:24 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 1. pinentry updated - pinentry-qt had a problem with setting the DISPLAY
 variable, Steffen Hansen sent us a patch that I merged in. The .orig.tar.gz
 from the sources is the same, the diff.gz contains the patch as a separate
 diff file and has, after retrieving and applying the diff.gz with apt-get
 source, the patch applied. Please test pinentry-qt if that works now for
 you.

Just moved from pinentry-gtk to pinenty-qt, and assuming this mail comes 
though like my others to this list all is working fine.

Tom

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Re: New packages changes

2003-01-21 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:33:28AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 BTW: if you want to use an XP-like multi-session feature for X, change 
 
 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers
 
 add lines like these:
 # Examples for multiple local X displays:
 # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16
 # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8
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 :1 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8

 :2 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt9
 :3 local reserve /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt10
 
   ^
it would be advisable to use 2 and 3, though. ;)

 the reserve is the point :-)

 You could also use /etc/X11/X though,
 
hmm, is this really the suggested way of invoking an x server?
this is a helper link of the debian config system, which i thought
is not supposed to be used directly. time to read the policy, i guess
...

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