Re: Plasma 5.10 in Testing?

[Luc Castermans]

Dear

Today I got rid of the glitches in the screen by selecting
Xrender as Compositor (Systemsettings -> Screen and Monitor) instead of OpenGL 
x.

Does that give a clue to what is wrong?

thx

Luc


Op 12-10-17 om 13:26 schreef Libor Klepáč:

Hi,
I see those sometimes, starting few minutes after resume.
It's fixable by `kquitapp plasmashell` & run it again from krunner.

I don't know when it started, i have to candidates:
1) after upgrading to Plasma 5.10
2) after enabling GPU accel in firefox

My GPU is
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 0b)

BTW: is it safe to upgrade to latest MESA, pulling in libegl1? Last time i
tried, it broke GPU acceleration and also video acceleration. There are still
some bug reports opened againts MESA.

Libor



Dear,

On " ...experiencing graphic glitches in Testing"since a while I see
irregular glitches on my screen indeed. I already suspected by GPU or
graphic driver, but is it a KDE component?








2017-10-12 12:31 GMT+02:00 devfra <devfra_...@inventati.org[1]>:


Hi!

Can someone give us some update about the migration of Plasma 5.10 in
TestingIt started about a month ago but there are components still blocked
in Sid,such as kwin [1] and plasma-workspace [2].

Thank you!

PS: Anyone experiencing graphic glitches in Testing since this
migrationstarted? I have to restart X at least once a day and it is
becoming annoying.

[1] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html[2]
https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html[3]



Luc Castermansmailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com[4]




[1] mailto:devfra_...@inventati.org
[2] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html
[3] https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html
[4] mailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com



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Re: Plasma 5.10 in Testing?

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 10/12/2017 04:26 AM, Libor Klepáč wrote:

Hi,
I see those sometimes, starting few minutes after resume.
It's fixable by `kquitapp plasmashell` & run it again from krunner.

I don't know when it started, i have to candidates:
1) after upgrading to Plasma 5.10
2) after enabling GPU accel in firefox

My GPU is
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 0b)

BTW: is it safe to upgrade to latest MESA, pulling in libegl1? Last time i
tried, it broke GPU acceleration and also video acceleration. There are still
some bug reports opened againts MESA.


I have two Buster systems on my Haswell fully upgraded, I did have a 
update problem with dpkg not over writing package desktop-profiles so I 
purged desktop-profiles, completed the update and then reinstalled 
desktop-profiles.  After reboot I could not start plasma with Error (All 
shell packages missing.), I could not repair the problem and then got 
the idea that maybe re-purging desktop-profiles may fix the problem and 
it did, so now I have two buster systems completely updated working 
fine. So I do have the latest mesa in buster and all is well, but I 
never have had a problem with this Haswell.


Good luck,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Buster - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda7
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Plasma 5.10 in Testing?

[Luc Castermans]

Dear Libor

After below I see little improvement, but issue is not solved fully.
I never enabled GPU accel in Firefox.

My GPU:
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
Richland [Radeon HD 8670D]


Luc

Op 12-10-17 om 13:26 schreef Libor Klepáč:

Hi,
I see those sometimes, starting few minutes after resume.
It's fixable by `kquitapp plasmashell` & run it again from krunner.

I don't know when it started, i have to candidates:
1) after upgrading to Plasma 5.10
2) after enabling GPU accel in firefox

My GPU is
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 0b)

BTW: is it safe to upgrade to latest MESA, pulling in libegl1? Last time i
tried, it broke GPU acceleration and also video acceleration. There are still
some bug reports opened againts MESA.

Libor



Dear,

On " ...experiencing graphic glitches in Testing"since a while I see
irregular glitches on my screen indeed. I already suspected by GPU or
graphic driver, but is it a KDE component?








2017-10-12 12:31 GMT+02:00 devfra <devfra_...@inventati.org[1]>:


Hi!

Can someone give us some update about the migration of Plasma 5.10 in
TestingIt started about a month ago but there are components still blocked
in Sid,such as kwin [1] and plasma-workspace [2].

Thank you!

PS: Anyone experiencing graphic glitches in Testing since this
migrationstarted? I have to restart X at least once a day and it is
becoming annoying.

[1] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html[2]
https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html[3]



Luc Castermansmailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com[4]




[1] mailto:devfra_...@inventati.org
[2] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html
[3] https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html
[4] mailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com



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Re: Plasma 5.10 in Testing?

[Libor Klepáč]

Hi,
I see those sometimes, starting few minutes after resume.
It's fixable by `kquitapp plasmashell` & run it again from krunner.

I don't know when it started, i have to candidates:
1) after upgrading to Plasma 5.10
2) after enabling GPU accel in firefox

My GPU is
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics 
Controller (rev 0b)

BTW: is it safe to upgrade to latest MESA, pulling in libegl1? Last time i 
tried, it broke GPU acceleration and also video acceleration. There are still 
some bug reports opened againts MESA.

Libor


> Dear,
> 
> On " ...experiencing graphic glitches in Testing"since a while I see
> irregular glitches on my screen indeed. I already suspected by GPU or
> graphic driver, but is it a KDE component?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-10-12 12:31 GMT+02:00 devfra <devfra_...@inventati.org[1]>:
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Can someone give us some update about the migration of Plasma 5.10 in
> TestingIt started about a month ago but there are components still blocked
> in Sid,such as kwin [1] and plasma-workspace [2].
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> PS: Anyone experiencing graphic glitches in Testing since this
> migrationstarted? I have to restart X at least once a day and it is
> becoming annoying.
> 
> [1] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html[2]
> https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html[3]
> 
> 
> 
> Luc Castermansmailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com[4]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [1] mailto:devfra_...@inventati.org
> [2] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html
> [3] https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html
> [4] mailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com

Re: Plasma 5.10 in Testing?

[Luc Castermans]

Dear,

On " ...experiencing graphic glitches in Testing"
since a while I see irregular glitches on my screen indeed. I already
suspected by GPU or graphic driver,
but is it a KDE component?

Regards, Luc


2017-10-12 12:31 GMT+02:00 devfra <devfra_...@inventati.org>:

> Hi!
>
> Can someone give us some update about the migration of Plasma 5.10 in
> Testing
> It started about a month ago but there are components still blocked in Sid,
> such as kwin [1] and plasma-workspace [2].
>
> Thank you!
>
> PS: Anyone experiencing graphic glitches in Testing since this migration
> started? I have to restart X at least once a day and it is becoming
> annoying.
>
> [1] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html
> [2] https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html
>
>


-- 
Luc Castermans
mailto:luc.casterm...@gmail.com

Plasma 5.10 in Testing?

[devfra]

Hi!

Can someone give us some update about the migration of Plasma 5.10 in Testing 
It started about a month ago but there are components still blocked in Sid, 
such as kwin [1] and plasma-workspace [2].

Thank you!

PS: Anyone experiencing graphic glitches in Testing since this migration
started? I have to restart X at least once a day and it is becoming annoying.

[1] https://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kwin.html
[2] https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/plasma-workspace.html

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Martin Steigerwald - 28.08.17, 18:36:
> Hello.
> 
> Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be
> almost done.

Maxy now started uploading KF 5.37 to unstable.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10

[Luc Castermans]

Dear,

After but also before upgrading to Plasma 5.10 I mostly need to login 2 twice as after the first login I get windows without 
decorations. I think KWin is not running then ?

Anyway after 2nd login it is always ok.

I find below in my .xsession-errors file, does this reveal any issue, in which 
other log to look for
the root cause ?

Luc

===

luc@canne:~$ tail .xsession-errors
networkmanager-qt: virtual void NetworkManager::DevicePrivate::propertyChanged(const QString&, const QVariant&) Unhandled property 
"S390Subchannels"

modemmanager-qt: Failed enumerating MM objects: 
"org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown"
 "The name org.freedesktop.ModemManager1 was not provided by any .service files"
kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried 
("/home/luc/.local/share", "/usr/share", "/usr/local/share")
kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried 
("/home/luc/.local/share", "/usr/share", "/usr/local/share")
kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried 
("/home/luc/.local/share", "/usr/share", "/usr/local/share")
kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried 
("/home/luc/.local/share", "/usr/share", "/usr/local/share")

trying to show an empty dialog
file:///usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/views/Desktop.qml:147:19: QML Loader: Binding loop detected for 
property "height"
file:///usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/views/Desktop.qml:147:19: QML Loader: Binding loop detected for 
property "height"

luc@canne:~$ ls -l --si .xsession-errors
-rw--- 1 luc users 17G sep  2 15:40 .xsession-errors
luc@canne:~$
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Re: Plasma 5.10

[Facundo Aguilera]

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:15 PM Hillel Lubman  wrote:
>...
>Though the horrendously slow startup time (after log-in) is still >here. I
was holding off filing bugs, since
>I thought it could be fixed in newer Plasma, but apparently it's >not.
I'll file a KDE bug about it,
>
>Hillel.


I have the same problem in several computers. After each update I thought
it could be fixed finally, but no, it's slower...
I have the slow login problem for a year or two. The slowness only appears
on the first login. I'll wait for your bug report...


Facu

Re: Plasma 5.10

[Hillel Lubman]

I just installed in Debian testing it and it's working well! The most awaited 
thing for me was support for
openconnect VPN in the network manager UI. With all the freezes and delays it 
took forever, but it works!

Though the horrendously slow startup time (after log-in) is still here. I was 
holding off filing bugs, since
I thought it could be fixed in newer Plasma, but apparently it's not. I'll file 
a KDE bug about it,

Hillel.

Re: Plasma 5.10

[Martin Steigerwald]

Hillel Lubman - 01.09.17, 13:00:
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:46:30 +0200, newbeewan wrote:
> > I just update my laptop to plasma 5.10 in experimental.
> > As far I test it, everything is working very well, Thank you for all the
> > work !
> What is the good way to install it from experimental to Debian testing? Is
> there some meta package which will pull in all needed dependencies? Or you
> install it all manually piece by piece? I know that to do it in general for
> testing, I need to enable both unstable and experimental sources (otherwise
> some mismatch can creep in). But without meta package it looks rather
> complicated.

The way I did it I described in the other thread "Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37" 
that I started a while ago.

-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10

[Hillel Lubman]

On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:46:30 +0200, newbeewan wrote:

> I just update my laptop to plasma 5.10 in experimental.
> As far I test it, everything is working very well, Thank you for all the work 
> !

What is the good way to install it from experimental to Debian testing? Is 
there some meta package which will pull in all needed
dependencies? Or you install it all manually piece by piece? I know that to do 
it in general for testing, I need to enable both unstable
and experimental sources (otherwise some mismatch can creep in). But without 
meta package it looks rather complicated.

Same question can be applied to unstable really, without the extra complicating 
testing part. I.e. what's the recommended meta
package for installing plasma update with all needed frameworks and etc.?

Thanks,
Hillel.

Plasma 5.10

[newbeewan]

Hi,

I just update my laptop to plasma 5.10 in experimental.

As far I test it, everything is working very well, Thank you for all the work !

Best regards

Mourad

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Libor Klepáč]

Hi,
kwin 5.10 is here, it was going thru NEW (new libraries abi).

Today, i had problem with frozen plasma after wake from suspend to RAM, but it 
was probably related to yesterdays udisks2 upgrade.

Even after launching from konsole, i got this:
Trying to use rootObject before initialization is completed, whilst using 
setInitializationDelayed. Forcing completion
Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut" 
 "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out 
(service_start_timeout=25000ms)"
Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut" 
 "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out 
(service_start_timeout=25000ms)"
Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut" 
 "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out 
(service_start_timeout=25000ms)"

After downgrading udisks back, everything works.

Plasma still forgets wallpapers on secondary monitors, like in 5.8, i wasn't 
investigating why.

I will have to test window placement with new KWIN, because at work, i have 
notebook in dock and I have primary monitor in middle, with another on left 
and my notebook screen on right.
All windows are placed on the left one, not the middle one (primary) after 
putting notebook to dock and resuming from suspend.



Libor

On pondělí 28. srpna 2017 18:36:55 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be 
> almost done.
> 
> This is still for build and other testing… but I bet it won´t take all that 
> long anymore… and our Sid systems should be pretty up-to-date again.
> 
> Aim of Qt/KDE debian/ubuntu team is to remove Qt4 dependency til next 
release 
> (buster). Its a challenging task however.
> 
> Thanks,
> 

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 09:00:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet :).
> 
> There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> 
> martin@merkaba:~> rmadison kwin-x11 | cut -c1-49
> kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.6-1 | stable | amd64, 
> kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-1 | testing| amd64, 
> kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-2 | unstable   | amd64,

Updated kwin is available. So with that the Plasma update is complete.

I am still very happy. It all works just nicely.

On my work session I had it that baloo was not enabled for a reason although 
it was enabled before the upgrade, but after enabling it it worked again just 
nicely.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Luc Castermans]

Op 29-08-17 om 17:48 schreef Martin Steigerwald:

Luc Castermans - 29.08.17, 10:02:

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
packages like plasma-nm.

aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm

yields:

root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64Plasma5
networkmanager library. root@canne:~#

And actually quite some goodness like a revamped System settings module for
connections. :)

I may review the official release videos for new features. Or device to let
myself be surprised whenever I find something.

Thanks,


Thx for hint! So I now upgraded from experimental to below. Luc

luc@canne:~$ dpkg -l | fgrep plasma
ii  kde-plasma-desktop 5:92 amd64    KDE 
Plasma Desktop and minimal set of applications
ii  kdeplasma-addons-data 4:5.10.5-1   all  
locale files for kdeplasma-addons
ii  libkdeclarative5 4:4.14.35-1  amd64    
declarative library for plasma
ii  libkf5plasma5:amd64 5.37.0-1 amd64    
Plasma Runtime components
ii  libkf5plasmaquick5:amd64 5.37.0-1 amd64    
Plasma Runtime components
ii  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 4:5.10.5-1   amd64 
   Plasma Workspace for KF5 library
ii  libplasma3 4:4.14.35-1  amd64    Plasma Library 
for the KDE Platform
ii  plasma-dataengines-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional data engines for Plasma
ii  plasma-desktop 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Tools and 
widgets for the desktop
ii  plasma-desktop-data 4:5.10.5-1   all  Tools 
and widgets for the desktop data files
ii  plasma-discover 5.10.5-1 amd64    Discover 
software management suite
ii  plasma-discover-common 5.10.5-1 all  
Discover software manager suite (common data files)
ii  plasma-framework 5.37.0-1 amd64    Plasma 
Runtime components
ii  plasma-integration 5.10.5-1 amd64    Qt 
Platform Theme integration plugins for KDE Plasma
ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma5 
networkmanager library.
ii  plasma-pa 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma 5 Volume 
controller
ii  plasma-runners-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional runners for Plasma 5 and Krunner
ii  plasma-scriptengine-javascript 4:16.08.3-2  amd64   
 JavaScript script engine for Plasma
ii  plasma-wallpapers-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional wallpaper plugins for Plasma 5
ii  plasma-widgets-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional widgets for Plasma 5
ii  plasma-workspace 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma 
Workspace for KF5
luc@canne:~

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Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Luc Castermans - 29.08.17, 10:02:
> > KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
> > packages like plasma-nm.
> 
> aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm
> 
> yields:
> 
> root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
> ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64Plasma5
> networkmanager library. root@canne:~#

And actually quite some goodness like a revamped System settings module for 
connections. :)

I may review the official release videos for new features. Or device to let 
myself be surprised whenever I find something.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Please do not Cc me. I read the list.

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 12:07:
> On úterý 29. srpna 2017 11:10:01 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 07:26:
> > > On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete
> > > > yet
> > > > 
> > > > :).
> > > > 
> > > > There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> > > Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > First problem:
> > > Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.
> > 
> > Works here. Inside Amarok as well as via new jump list actions and the
> > usual  media controls in system tray.
> 
> Can you please check global shortcuts, if media keys are "owned" by Amarok
> or  Media control component?
> It works after assigning those keys directly to Amarok global shortcuts.
> 
> It also works from new media control buttons on lock screen, great.

You are using keys? I understood you pressed buttons, so that is what I did.

I am not sure I have media keys on my ThinkPad keyboards. Hmmm, I don´t think 
I have despite louder / more silent / mute.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Libor Klepáč]

On úterý 29. srpna 2017 11:10:01 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 07:26:
> > On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > > 
> > > Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet
> > > :).
> > > There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> > Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)
> > 
> > 
> > First problem:
> > Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.
> 
> Works here. Inside Amarok as well as via new jump list actions and the usual 
> media controls in system tray.
> 

Can you please check global shortcuts, if media keys are "owned" by Amarok or 
Media control component? 
It works after assigning those keys directly to Amarok global shortcuts.

It also works from new media control buttons on lock screen, great.

> I bet you may missed some upgrade.

Maybe

> 
> > Global shortcut is assigned to component "media control" .
> > I don't know, whether this changed during upgrade.
> > Yes, I realize, that amarok is old and probably will be removed, because 
of
> > QT4 removal.
> 
> I do hope upstream developers manage to finalize a Qt5 versions… but it 
seems 
> they need help.

It's good player, i got back to it after several years of using mpv from 
konsole.



Libor

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 07:26:
> On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > 
> > Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet
> > :).
> > There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)
> 
> 
> First problem:
> Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.

Works here. Inside Amarok as well as via new jump list actions and the usual 
media controls in system tray.

I bet you may missed some upgrade.

> Global shortcut is assigned to component "media control" .
> I don't know, whether this changed during upgrade.
> Yes, I realize, that amarok is old and probably will be removed, because of
> QT4 removal.

I do hope upstream developers manage to finalize a Qt5 versions… but it seems 
they need help.

KDE Applications 17.08… will likely be something Maxy / Qt/KDE debian team 
prepares next. But Amarok is separate from that anyway.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Libor Klepáč]

On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet :).
> 
> There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> 
Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)


First problem: 
Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.
Global shortcut is assigned to component "media control" .
I don't know, whether this changed during upgrade.
Yes, I realize, that amarok is old and probably will be removed, because of 
QT4 removal.

Libor

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 10:12:
> Please all of you make sure you have packages in consistent versions before 
> reporting bugs. kwin, kdecoration and some other kwin related packages are
> not yet upgradable.

Preferably first report things regarding experimental packages here on the 
list… and only report bugs after feedback. That saves unnecessary work for the 
Debian Qt/KDE.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Luc Castermans - 29.08.17, 10:02:
> Op 29-08-17 om 09:57 schreef Martin Steigerwald:
> > Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> >> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> >>> just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> >>> upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> >>> 
> >>> Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> >>> Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> >> 
> >> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> >> 
> >> I feel tempted :)
> > 
> > Well… that was easy enough.
> > 
> > So far so good.
> > 
> > KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
> > packages like plasma-nm.
> 
> aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm
> 
> yields:
> 
> root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
> ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64Plasma5
> networkmanager library. root@canne:~#

Yeah, that is just what I wrote.

It won´t be upgraded automatically by either

apt install -t experimental  plasma-nm

or

apt install -t experimental  plasma-desktop plasma-workspace

tough.

Please all of you make sure you have packages in consistent versions before 
reporting bugs. kwin, kdecoration and some other kwin related packages are not 
yet upgradable.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Luc Castermans]

Op 29-08-17 om 09:57 schreef Martin Steigerwald:

Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:

just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
upgrade was smooth, no problem.

Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.

I feel tempted :)

Well… that was easy enough.

So far so good.

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
packages like plasma-nm.

aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm

yields:

root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma5 
networkmanager library.
root@canne:~#



<>

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 09:50:
> Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > > 
> > > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > 
> > Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> > 
> > I feel tempted :)
> 
> Well… that was easy enough.

Sorry for doube posting. KMail/Akonadi didn´t feel like updating the folder 
contents.

> So far so good.
> 
> KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
> packages like plasma-nm.

This is a happy, happy day for me:

One of the most annoying krunner bugs of all times fixed. I just verified it 
after I noticed the comment about the fix in the bug report some time ago 
already:

krunner won´t run the entry under the mouse pointer anymore if you use it with 
keyboard. Whoa! Thats so nice.

Kudos to upstream developers, kudos to Debian Qt/KDE team!

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > 
> > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> 
> I feel tempted :)

Well… that was easy enough.

So far so good.

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6" 
packages like plasma-nm.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > 
> > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> 
> I feel tempted :)

Well… that was easy enough.

So far so good.

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6" 
packages like plasma-nm.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Libor Klepáč]

I couldn't wait anymore ;)

Font rendering is little different again, but it was somehow different for me 
since new fontconfig and libfreetype hit unstable.

Now looking forward for refreshed kde-pim (I'm using kontact+self compiled 
akonadi-ews)

Libor


On úterý 29. srpna 2017 8:55:40 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi Libor.
> 
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > 
> > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> 
> I feel tempted :)
> 
> Maybe I wait a day or two whether you encounter a show stopper.
> 
> Thanks,
> 

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Luc Castermans]

Op 29-08-17 om 08:55 schreef Martin Steigerwald:

Hi Libor.

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:

just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
upgrade was smooth, no problem.

Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.

I feel tempted :)

Maybe I wait a day or two whether you encounter a show stopper.

Thanks,


I could not resist: aptitude install plasma-framework  -t experimental

All looks OK for me

Many thanks to the team !!!


Luc Castermans

<>

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet :).

There is no newer version available in the archive right now:

martin@merkaba:~> rmadison kwin-x11 | cut -c1-49
kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.6-1 | stable | amd64, 
kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-1 | testing| amd64, 
kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-2 | unstable   | amd64,

(apt update + apt-cache policy tells you the same for your mirror. rmadison is 
in package devscripts)

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Hi Libor.

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> 
> Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.

I feel tempted :)

Maybe I wait a day or two whether you encounter a show stopper.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Libor Klepáč]

Hi,
just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
upgrade was smooth, no problem.

Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Thanks for packages,
Libor




On pondělí 28. srpna 2017 18:36:55 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be 
> almost done.
> 
> This is still for build and other testing… but I bet it won´t take all that 
> long anymore… and our Sid systems should be pretty up-to-date again.
> 
> Aim of Qt/KDE debian/ubuntu team is to remove Qt4 dependency til next 
release 
> (buster). Its a challenging task however.
> 
> Thanks,
> 

Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

[Martin Steigerwald]

Hello.

Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be 
almost done.

This is still for build and other testing… but I bet it won´t take all that 
long anymore… and our Sid systems should be pretty up-to-date again.

Aim of Qt/KDE debian/ubuntu team is to remove Qt4 dependency til next release 
(buster). Its a challenging task however.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 in experimental ?

[Libor Klepáč]

Thanks for new packages,

looking forward to break my desktop ;)

Libor



On pondělí 10. července 2017 11:11:14 CEST Maximiliano Curia wrote:

> ¡Hola Martin!

>

> El 2017-07-10 a las 09:47 +0200, Martin Steigerwald escribió:

> > Martin Steigerwald - 27.06.17, 11:29:

> >> newbee...@nativobject.net - 27.06.17, 10:44:

> >>> Is there any imports of Plasma 5.10 and/or KDE application 17.04 on some

> >>> experimental mirrors ?

> >>>

> >> From what I gathered from #debian-qt-kde channel on IRC there is no ETA for

> >> updated packages currently. Also from what I read there the team is working

> >> on updated Qt packages first. My current bet is that updated KF5 and Plasma

> >> packages will follow after Qt upgrade is done.

> >>

> >> What I have seen is upgraded Plasma LTS 5.8 and KF 5.28 packages in 
> >> Unstable

> >> to fix bugs and requests to include them in Debian Stretch as well. I am

> >> not sure how that will continue, once Plasma / KF packages of newer

> >> versions are in unstable.

> >

> > A short update:

>

> > After the team prepared Qt 5.9.1 in experimental, Maxy is now uploading KF

> > 5.36 to experimental as well. After that latest Plasma is a likely 
> > candidate.

>

> I've just uploaded most framework packages to experimental, they are not

> really for public consumption but to have them go through NEW, probably get

> some symbols updates, and reveal some problems with experimental.

>

> Happy hacking,

>

Re: Plasma 5.10 in experimental ?

[Martin Steigerwald]

Hola Maxy, hola,

Maximiliano Curia - 10.07.17, 11:11:
> El 2017-07-10 a las 09:47 +0200, Martin Steigerwald escribió:
> > Martin Steigerwald - 27.06.17, 11:29:
> >> newbee...@nativobject.net - 27.06.17, 10:44:
> >>> Is there any imports of Plasma 5.10 and/or KDE application 17.04 on some
> >>> experimental mirrors ?
> >> 
> >> From what I gathered from #debian-qt-kde channel on IRC there is no ETA
[…]
> > A short update:
> > 
> > After the team prepared Qt 5.9.1 in experimental, Maxy is now uploading KF
> > 5.36 to experimental as well. After that latest Plasma is a likely
> > candidate.
> I've just uploaded most framework packages to experimental, they are not
> really for public consumption but to have them go through NEW, probably get
> some symbols updates, and reveal some problems with experimental.

Maxy, you know us: There will be users here, who will install updates packages 
from experimental. :) But yes, thanks for the warning.

For anyone with an interest in a stable desktop: It makes sense to wait at 
least for the second iteration of these :). I think I will wait as I hold a 
training next week and don´t want to mess my desktop up before of that. But 
lets see.

Anyway, at least there is not nasty GCC/G++ transition going on at the same 
time. At least none I am aware of.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 in experimental ?

[Maximiliano Curia]

¡Hola Martin!

El 2017-07-10 a las 09:47 +0200, Martin Steigerwald escribió:

Martin Steigerwald - 27.06.17, 11:29:

newbee...@nativobject.net - 27.06.17, 10:44:
Is there any imports of Plasma 5.10 and/or KDE application 17.04 on some 
experimental mirrors ?


From what I gathered from #debian-qt-kde channel on IRC there is no ETA for 
updated packages currently. Also from what I read there the team is working 
on updated Qt packages first. My current bet is that updated KF5 and Plasma 
packages will follow after Qt upgrade is done.


What I have seen is upgraded Plasma LTS 5.8 and KF 5.28 packages in Unstable 
to fix bugs and requests to include them in Debian Stretch as well. I am 
not sure how that will continue, once Plasma / KF  packages of newer 
versions are in unstable.


A short update:


After the team prepared Qt 5.9.1 in experimental, Maxy is now uploading KF 
5.36 to experimental as well. After that latest Plasma is a likely candidate.


I've just uploaded most framework packages to experimental, they are not 
really for public consumption but to have them go through NEW, probably get 
some symbols updates, and reveal some problems with experimental.


Happy hacking,
--
"If I ask another professor what he teaches in the introductory programming
course, whether he answers proudly "Pascal" or diffidently "FORTRAN," I know
that he is teaching a grammar, a set of semantic rules, and some finished
algorithms, leaving the students to discover, on their own, some process of
design."
-- Robert W. Floyd
Saludos /\/\ /\ >< `/


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Re: Plasma 5.10 in experimental ?

[Martin Steigerwald]

Martin Steigerwald - 27.06.17, 11:29:
> newbee...@nativobject.net - 27.06.17, 10:44:
> > Is there any imports of Plasma 5.10 and/or KDE application 17.04 on some
> > experimental mirrors ?
> >
> From what I gathered from #debian-qt-kde channel on IRC there is no ETA for
> updated packages currently. Also from what I read there the team is working
> on updated Qt packages first. My current bet is that updated KF5 and Plasma
> packages will follow after Qt upgrade is done.
> 
> What I have seen is upgraded Plasma LTS 5.8 and KF 5.28 packages in Unstable
> to fix bugs and requests to include them in Debian Stretch as well. I am
> not sure how that will continue, once Plasma / KF  packages of newer
> versions are in unstable.

A short update:

After the team prepared Qt 5.9.1 in experimental, Maxy is now uploading KF 
5.36 to experimental as well. After that latest Plasma is a likely candidate.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

Re: Plasma 5.10 in experimental ?

[Martin Steigerwald]

newbee...@nativobject.net - 27.06.17, 10:44:
> Is there any imports of Plasma 5.10 and/or KDE application 17.04 on some
> experimental mirrors ?

>From what I gathered from #debian-qt-kde channel on IRC there is no ETA for 
updated packages currently. Also from what I read there the team is working on 
updated Qt packages first. My current bet is that updated KF5 and Plasma 
packages will follow after Qt upgrade is done.

What I have seen is upgraded Plasma LTS 5.8 and KF 5.28 packages in Unstable 
to fix bugs and requests to include them in Debian Stretch as well. I am not 
sure how that will continue, once Plasma / KF  packages of newer versions are 
in unstable.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin