Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-09-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 28.08.17, 18:36:
> Hello.
> 
> Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be
> almost done.

Maxy now started uploading KF 5.37 to unstable.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-30 Thread Libor Klepáč
Hi,
kwin 5.10 is here, it was going thru NEW (new libraries abi).

Today, i had problem with frozen plasma after wake from suspend to RAM, but it 
was probably related to yesterdays udisks2 upgrade.

Even after launching from konsole, i got this:
Trying to use rootObject before initialization is completed, whilst using 
setInitializationDelayed. Forcing completion
Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut" 
 "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out 
(service_start_timeout=25000ms)"
Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut" 
 "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out 
(service_start_timeout=25000ms)"
Failed enumerating UDisks2 objects: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut" 
 "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2': timed out 
(service_start_timeout=25000ms)"

After downgrading udisks back, everything works.

Plasma still forgets wallpapers on secondary monitors, like in 5.8, i wasn't 
investigating why.

I will have to test window placement with new KWIN, because at work, i have 
notebook in dock and I have primary monitor in middle, with another on left 
and my notebook screen on right.
All windows are placed on the left one, not the middle one (primary) after 
putting notebook to dock and resuming from suspend.



Libor

On pondělí 28. srpna 2017 18:36:55 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be 
> almost done.
> 
> This is still for build and other testing… but I bet it won´t take all that 
> long anymore… and our Sid systems should be pretty up-to-date again.
> 
> Aim of Qt/KDE debian/ubuntu team is to remove Qt4 dependency til next 
release 
> (buster). Its a challenging task however.
> 
> Thanks,
> 



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 09:00:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet :).
> 
> There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> 
> martin@merkaba:~> rmadison kwin-x11 | cut -c1-49
> kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.6-1 | stable | amd64, 
> kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-1 | testing| amd64, 
> kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-2 | unstable   | amd64,

Updated kwin is available. So with that the Plasma update is complete.

I am still very happy. It all works just nicely.

On my work session I had it that baloo was not enabled for a reason although 
it was enabled before the upgrade, but after enabling it it worked again just 
nicely.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-30 Thread Luc Castermans

Op 29-08-17 om 17:48 schreef Martin Steigerwald:

Luc Castermans - 29.08.17, 10:02:

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
packages like plasma-nm.

aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm

yields:

root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64Plasma5
networkmanager library. root@canne:~#

And actually quite some goodness like a revamped System settings module for
connections. :)

I may review the official release videos for new features. Or device to let
myself be surprised whenever I find something.

Thanks,


Thx for hint! So I now upgraded from experimental to below. Luc

luc@canne:~$ dpkg -l | fgrep plasma
ii  kde-plasma-desktop 5:92 amd64    KDE 
Plasma Desktop and minimal set of applications
ii  kdeplasma-addons-data 4:5.10.5-1   all  
locale files for kdeplasma-addons
ii  libkdeclarative5 4:4.14.35-1  amd64    
declarative library for plasma
ii  libkf5plasma5:amd64 5.37.0-1 amd64    
Plasma Runtime components
ii  libkf5plasmaquick5:amd64 5.37.0-1 amd64    
Plasma Runtime components
ii  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 4:5.10.5-1   amd64 
   Plasma Workspace for KF5 library
ii  libplasma3 4:4.14.35-1  amd64    Plasma Library 
for the KDE Platform
ii  plasma-dataengines-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional data engines for Plasma
ii  plasma-desktop 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Tools and 
widgets for the desktop
ii  plasma-desktop-data 4:5.10.5-1   all  Tools 
and widgets for the desktop data files
ii  plasma-discover 5.10.5-1 amd64    Discover 
software management suite
ii  plasma-discover-common 5.10.5-1 all  
Discover software manager suite (common data files)
ii  plasma-framework 5.37.0-1 amd64    Plasma 
Runtime components
ii  plasma-integration 5.10.5-1 amd64    Qt 
Platform Theme integration plugins for KDE Plasma
ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma5 
networkmanager library.
ii  plasma-pa 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma 5 Volume 
controller
ii  plasma-runners-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional runners for Plasma 5 and Krunner
ii  plasma-scriptengine-javascript 4:16.08.3-2  amd64   
 JavaScript script engine for Plasma
ii  plasma-wallpapers-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional wallpaper plugins for Plasma 5
ii  plasma-widgets-addons 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    
additional widgets for Plasma 5
ii  plasma-workspace 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma 
Workspace for KF5
luc@canne:~

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Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Luc Castermans - 29.08.17, 10:02:
> > KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
> > packages like plasma-nm.
> 
> aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm
> 
> yields:
> 
> root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
> ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64Plasma5
> networkmanager library. root@canne:~#

And actually quite some goodness like a revamped System settings module for 
connections. :)

I may review the official release videos for new features. Or device to let 
myself be surprised whenever I find something.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Please do not Cc me. I read the list.

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 12:07:
> On úterý 29. srpna 2017 11:10:01 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 07:26:
> > > On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete
> > > > yet
> > > > 
> > > > :).
> > > > 
> > > > There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> > > Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > First problem:
> > > Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.
> > 
> > Works here. Inside Amarok as well as via new jump list actions and the
> > usual  media controls in system tray.
> 
> Can you please check global shortcuts, if media keys are "owned" by Amarok
> or  Media control component?
> It works after assigning those keys directly to Amarok global shortcuts.
> 
> It also works from new media control buttons on lock screen, great.

You are using keys? I understood you pressed buttons, so that is what I did.

I am not sure I have media keys on my ThinkPad keyboards. Hmmm, I don´t think 
I have despite louder / more silent / mute.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Libor Klepáč
On úterý 29. srpna 2017 11:10:01 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 07:26:
> > On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > > 
> > > Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet
> > > :).
> > > There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> > Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)
> > 
> > 
> > First problem:
> > Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.
> 
> Works here. Inside Amarok as well as via new jump list actions and the usual 
> media controls in system tray.
> 

Can you please check global shortcuts, if media keys are "owned" by Amarok or 
Media control component? 
It works after assigning those keys directly to Amarok global shortcuts.

It also works from new media control buttons on lock screen, great.

> I bet you may missed some upgrade.

Maybe

> 
> > Global shortcut is assigned to component "media control" .
> > I don't know, whether this changed during upgrade.
> > Yes, I realize, that amarok is old and probably will be removed, because 
of
> > QT4 removal.
> 
> I do hope upstream developers manage to finalize a Qt5 versions… but it 
seems 
> they need help.

It's good player, i got back to it after several years of using mpv from 
konsole.



Libor



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 07:26:
> On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > 
> > Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet
> > :).
> > There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)
> 
> 
> First problem:
> Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.

Works here. Inside Amarok as well as via new jump list actions and the usual 
media controls in system tray.

I bet you may missed some upgrade.

> Global shortcut is assigned to component "media control" .
> I don't know, whether this changed during upgrade.
> Yes, I realize, that amarok is old and probably will be removed, because of
> QT4 removal.

I do hope upstream developers manage to finalize a Qt5 versions… but it seems 
they need help.

KDE Applications 17.08… will likely be something Maxy / Qt/KDE debian team 
prepares next. But Amarok is separate from that anyway.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Libor Klepáč
On úterý 29. srpna 2017 9:00:39 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet :).
> 
> There is no newer version available in the archive right now:
> 
Yes of course, it was just info from my upgrade ;)


First problem: 
Amarok stoped to react on play/pause,next,prev buttons.
Global shortcut is assigned to component "media control" .
I don't know, whether this changed during upgrade.
Yes, I realize, that amarok is old and probably will be removed, because of 
QT4 removal.

Libor


Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 10:12:
> Please all of you make sure you have packages in consistent versions before 
> reporting bugs. kwin, kdecoration and some other kwin related packages are
> not yet upgradable.

Preferably first report things regarding experimental packages here on the 
list… and only report bugs after feedback. That saves unnecessary work for the 
Debian Qt/KDE.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Luc Castermans - 29.08.17, 10:02:
> Op 29-08-17 om 09:57 schreef Martin Steigerwald:
> > Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> >> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> >>> just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> >>> upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> >>> 
> >>> Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> >>> Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> >> 
> >> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> >> 
> >> I feel tempted :)
> > 
> > Well… that was easy enough.
> > 
> > So far so good.
> > 
> > KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
> > packages like plasma-nm.
> 
> aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm
> 
> yields:
> 
> root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
> ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64Plasma5
> networkmanager library. root@canne:~#

Yeah, that is just what I wrote.

It won´t be upgraded automatically by either

apt install -t experimental  plasma-nm

or

apt install -t experimental  plasma-desktop plasma-workspace

tough.

Please all of you make sure you have packages in consistent versions before 
reporting bugs. kwin, kdecoration and some other kwin related packages are not 
yet upgradable.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Luc Castermans

Op 29-08-17 om 09:57 schreef Martin Steigerwald:

Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:

just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
upgrade was smooth, no problem.

Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.

I feel tempted :)

Well… that was easy enough.

So far so good.

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
packages like plasma-nm.

aptitude install -t experimental  plasma-nm

yields:

root@canne:~# dpkg -l | fgrep plasma-nm
ii  plasma-nm 4:5.10.5-1   amd64    Plasma5 
networkmanager library.
root@canne:~#



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Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 09:50:
> Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> > Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > > 
> > > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> > 
> > Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> > 
> > I feel tempted :)
> 
> Well… that was easy enough.

Sorry for doube posting. KMail/Akonadi didn´t feel like updating the folder 
contents.

> So far so good.
> 
> KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6"
> packages like plasma-nm.

This is a happy, happy day for me:

One of the most annoying krunner bugs of all times fixed. I just verified it 
after I noticed the comment about the fix in the bug report some time ago 
already:

krunner won´t run the entry under the mouse pointer anymore if you use it with 
keyboard. Whoa! Thats so nice.

Kudos to upstream developers, kudos to Debian Qt/KDE team!

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > 
> > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> 
> I feel tempted :)

Well… that was easy enough.

So far so good.

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6" 
packages like plasma-nm.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 29.08.17, 08:55:
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > 
> > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> 
> I feel tempted :)

Well… that was easy enough.

So far so good.

KF 5.37 + Plasma 5.10.5. For plasma also watch out for "5.8.5" and "5.8.6" 
packages like plasma-nm.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Libor Klepáč
I couldn't wait anymore ;)

Font rendering is little different again, but it was somehow different for me 
since new fontconfig and libfreetype hit unstable.

Now looking forward for refreshed kde-pim (I'm using kontact+self compiled 
akonadi-ews)

Libor


On úterý 29. srpna 2017 8:55:40 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi Libor.
> 
> Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> > just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> > upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> > 
> > Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> > Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version
> 
> Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.
> 
> I feel tempted :)
> 
> Maybe I wait a day or two whether you encounter a show stopper.
> 
> Thanks,
> 




Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Luc Castermans

Op 29-08-17 om 08:55 schreef Martin Steigerwald:

Hi Libor.

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:

just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
upgrade was smooth, no problem.

Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.

I feel tempted :)

Maybe I wait a day or two whether you encounter a show stopper.

Thanks,


I could not resist: aptitude install plasma-framework  -t experimental

All looks OK for me

Many thanks to the team !!!


Luc Castermans

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Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Well, I didn´t write that the Plasma 5.10 upload of Maxy is complete yet :).

There is no newer version available in the archive right now:

martin@merkaba:~> rmadison kwin-x11 | cut -c1-49
kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.6-1 | stable | amd64, 
kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-1 | testing| amd64, 
kwin-x11   | 4:5.8.7-2 | unstable   | amd64,

(apt update + apt-cache policy tells you the same for your mirror. rmadison is 
in package devscripts)

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Libor.

Libor Klepáč - 29.08.17, 08:39:
> just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
> upgrade was smooth, no problem.
> 
> Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
> Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Lol, thanks for feedback, Libor.

I feel tempted :)

Maybe I wait a day or two whether you encounter a show stopper.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-29 Thread Libor Klepáč
Hi,
just upgrade to qt5.9, frameworks 5.37 and plasma 5.10,
upgrade was smooth, no problem.

Logged in again, everything seem to be ok so far.
Kde window manager is still in 5.8.7 version

Thanks for packages,
Libor




On pondělí 28. srpna 2017 18:36:55 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be 
> almost done.
> 
> This is still for build and other testing… but I bet it won´t take all that 
> long anymore… and our Sid systems should be pretty up-to-date again.
> 
> Aim of Qt/KDE debian/ubuntu team is to remove Qt4 dependency til next 
release 
> (buster). Its a challenging task however.
> 
> Thanks,
> 




Plasma 5.10 and KF 5.37

2017-08-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello.

Maxy started uploading Plasma 5.10 to experimental. KF 5.37 appears to be 
almost done.

This is still for build and other testing… but I bet it won´t take all that 
long anymore… and our Sid systems should be pretty up-to-date again.

Aim of Qt/KDE debian/ubuntu team is to remove Qt4 dependency til next release 
(buster). Its a challenging task however.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin