Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
Hi everyone, thanks Patrick for the important and correct message. Just to make one thing clear: this is solely my fault due to an oversight that a certain package needs NEW processing. I am sorry for the confusion and we a trying to mitigate it. Thanks Norbert On Fri, 15 Oct 2021, Patrick Franz wrote: > please do not upgrade Plasma to 5.23 for the time being. -- PREINING Norbert https://www.preining.info Fujitsu Research + IFMGA Guide + TU Wien + TeX Live + Debian Dev GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
Andrey Rahmatullin - 15.10.21, 12:36:10 CEST: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:31:55PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: > > > IME it's *rarely* needed. > > > Normally aptitude safe-upgrade installs and removes packages as > > > needed.> > > I beg to disagree. Here you speak about *aptitude* which is a tool > > that is not the plain apt tool itself. You could also say things > > for dselect, synaptic, discover... > > > > With apt-get, you have to use dist-upgrade quite often because as > > other have pointed out, you cannot add or remove packages without > > dist-upgrade. > > > > Clearly to install libkdecorations2-5v5, you will need apt-get > > dist-upgrade. And the libkdecorations2-5v5 that was wrongly put in > > experimental does break the unstable version... > > apt upgrade, as opposed to apt-get upgrade, can install new packages. Interesting information. I was not aware of that. Thanks, -- Martin
Re: Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 12:31:55PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote: > > IME it's *rarely* needed. > > Normally aptitude safe-upgrade installs and removes packages as needed. > > I beg to disagree. Here you speak about *aptitude* which is a tool that is > not the plain apt tool itself. You could also say things for dselect, > synaptic, discover... > > With apt-get, you have to use dist-upgrade quite often because as other have > pointed out, you cannot add or remove packages without dist-upgrade. > > Clearly to install libkdecorations2-5v5, you will need apt-get dist-upgrade. > And the libkdecorations2-5v5 that was wrongly put in experimental does break > the unstable version... apt upgrade, as opposed to apt-get upgrade, can install new packages. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
IME it's *rarely* needed. Normally aptitude safe-upgrade installs and removes packages as needed. I beg to disagree. Here you speak about *aptitude* which is a tool that is not the plain apt tool itself. You could also say things for dselect, synaptic, discover... With apt-get, you have to use dist-upgrade quite often because as other have pointed out, you cannot add or remove packages without dist-upgrade. Clearly to install libkdecorations2-5v5, you will need apt-get dist-upgrade. And the libkdecorations2-5v5 that was wrongly put in experimental does break the unstable version... -- eric
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
On Friday, 15 October 2021 05:37:18 CEST Patrick Franz wrote: > Unfortunately, the upload is not complete and upgrading only half of the > packages can leave Plasma in an unusable state. Yep ;-P After installing (also) the updates from the 08:00 (CEST) repo update round, it worked again *for me* (afaict). But as Martin said, it's called Unstable for a reason ;) Cheers, Diederik signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
Dear Patrick. Patrick Franz - 15.10.21, 05:37:18 CEST: > please do not upgrade Plasma to 5.23 for the time being. > > Unfortunately, the upload is not complete and upgrading only half of > the packages can leave Plasma in an unusable state. > If you already have upgraded some packages, please downgrade them to > the version in testing (5.21.5) or whatever version you were using > before. > > We are sorry for this. Thank you for notifying. No problem for me. Its called Debian unstable and things like that can happen. Thank you very much for your work! Best, -- Martin
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
Hi all, please do not upgrade Plasma to 5.23 for the time being. Unfortunately, the upload is not complete and upgrading only half of the packages can leave Plasma in an unusable state. If you already have upgraded some packages, please downgrade them to the version in testing (5.21.5) or whatever version you were using before. We are sorry for this. -- Med vänliga hälsningar Patrick Franz
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
On Thursday, 14 October 2021 19:16:46 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > The best way to do that is not using *dist*-upgrade but the > > normal/safe- upgrade method ... > > Sometimes dist upgrade might be necessary as new packages are introduced > or old ones are removed. Trying dist upgrade also often gives a good > indication whether the builds are complete. IME it's *rarely* needed. Normally aptitude safe-upgrade installs and removes packages as needed. There is a common (?) misconception that it doesn't do that. What it does not, is remove packages that are marked as *manually* installed because that indicates that you (apparently) had a reason to explicitly install it. If "aptitude search '~i!~M'" returns (many) packages that you don't think should be marked as manually installed, that indicates that the 'state' of those packages are probably wrong. With "aptitude markauto " or "apt-mark auto " you can change that. HTH, Diederik signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
Diederik de Haas - 14.10.21, 17:55:26 CEST: > On Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:15:00 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > As usually take care with "apt dist-upgrade". Wait until the builds > > are complete. > > The best way to do that is not using *dist*-upgrade but the > normal/safe- upgrade method ... Sometimes dist upgrade might be necessary as new packages are introduced or old ones are removed. Trying dist upgrade also often gives a good indication whether the builds are complete. On the other hand the dependencies of the packages should make sure they are all in a consistent version, I think. Best, -- Martin
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
On Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:15:00 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote: > As usually take care with "apt dist-upgrade". Wait until the builds are > complete. The best way to do that is not using *dist*-upgrade but the normal/safe- upgrade method ... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
Great & Thanks! Op do 14 okt. 2021 17:15 schreef Martin Steigerwald : > Hi! > > Just that. Norbert uploaded it to unstable. > > As I learned in #debian-qt-kde IRC channel, KDecoration went to > experimental, instead of unstable, so you may need to get it from there > until Norbert or someone else uploads it to unstable. > > As usually take care with "apt dist-upgrade". Wait until the builds are > complete. > > Best, > -- > Martin > > >
Plasma 5.23 25th Annivery Release coming to unstable
Hi! Just that. Norbert uploaded it to unstable. As I learned in #debian-qt-kde IRC channel, KDecoration went to experimental, instead of unstable, so you may need to get it from there until Norbert or someone else uploads it to unstable. As usually take care with "apt dist-upgrade". Wait until the builds are complete. Best, -- Martin
