Re: New plasma-widgets
Hello, On 2009 m. March 29 d., Sunday 00:43:05 Manolete, ese artista... wrote: In KDE4 applets are added to the panel in a similar way than 3.5; the problem is that Kweather doesn't appear among the available applets (yes I have installed it, hehe). It seems no to work at all. Maybe for 4.3? Only gods know, hehe. kweather in KDE 4 is not a widget. I'm not sure what it is (command line tool to query weather data probably). -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: New plasma-widgets
Hello, On 2009 m. March 28 d., Saturday 01:13:33 Manolete, ese artista... wrote: like brused gold, :-/ I hope these plasmoids will add the more weather services to choose in future versions. Plasmoids themselves should not retrieve weather forecast data. This is done by weather dataengines (plasma_engine_weather.so) which are in plasma- dataengines-workspace package. This way all plasmoids can use the same sources. Those custom plasmoids will be never be official KDE ones if they reinvent the wheel and retrieve data from custom sources themselves. The goal is to integrate a new better source weather dataengine hence all weather plasmoids can use them. I have to agree though that the current selection of datasources is really poor. On the other hand, kweather (KDE 3) was almost perfect (expect it didn't provide forecast data). -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: New plasma-widgets
Hi Well, then plasma_engine_weather.so is to blame. As I said before I hope future versions will include more meteorological services. I know it would be absurd to include every national meteorological service on earth but at least to have 4 or 5 by default and let the users to add the ones they prefer by hand. Kweather intrigues me a lot. According to its name we can suppose whta's its utility, but I haven't been able even to launch it by any means :-/. Does it really work? I guess the programmers and the packagers of every distro did test it before publishing, no? But even in the KDE forum nobody could give an answer, everybody suggested weather plasmoids as alternatives but it seems nobody knows what's the deal with Kweather for KDE4. Dark misteries of computing... El Sábado 28 Marzo 2009 08:38:01 Modestas Vainius escribió: This is done by weather dataengines (plasma_engine_weather.so) which are in plasma- dataengines-workspace package. This way all plasmoids can use the same sources. Those custom plasmoids will be never be official KDE ones if they reinvent the wheel and retrieve data from custom sources themselves. The goal is to integrate a new better source weather dataengine hence all weather plasmoids can use them. I have to agree though that the current selection of datasources is really poor. On the other hand, kweather (KDE 3) was almost perfect (expect it didn't provide forecast data). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New plasma-widgets
Manolete, ese artista... wrote, on 2009-03-29 02:48: Kweather intrigues me a lot. According to its name we can suppose whta's its utility, but I haven't been able even to launch it by any means :-/. Does it really work? I guess the programmers and the packagers of every distro did test it before publishing, no? But even in the KDE forum nobody could give an answer, everybody suggested weather plasmoids as alternatives but it seems nobody knows what's the deal with Kweather for KDE4. Dark misteries of computing... I installed kweather in kde 3.5.x by apt-get / aptitude then in the panel menu, select add applet to panel, and kweather appeared as an option then I added Adelaide to get the weather. I have no idea how it is supposed to be launched in kde 4.x. Arthur. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New plasma-widgets
In KDE4 applets are added to the panel in a similar way than 3.5; the problem is that Kweather doesn't appear among the available applets (yes I have installed it, hehe). It seems no to work at all. Maybe for 4.3? Only gods know, hehe. Thanks for your help anyway, :) El Sábado 28 Marzo 2009 20:50:26 Arthur Marsh escribió: I installed kweather in kde 3.5.x by apt-get / aptitude then in the panel menu, select add applet to panel, and kweather appeared as an option then I added Adelaide to get the weather. I have no idea how it is supposed to be launched in kde 4.x. Arthur. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New plasma-widgets
Hello, On 2009 m. March 27 d., Friday 13:48:21 Valerio Passini wrote: I'm happy to have finally found plasma-widget-networkmanagement/weather widgets in experimental but I have some problems with them. The weather applet is very similar to the other one bundled at the moment with KDE4.2 that allows only to choice weather services among a subset of countries belonging to the Commonwealth. Since I live outside these Countries (actually in Italy) this renders useless such applets to me like to many other people. I have compiled by myself and tried another of this applets from kde-look it's called yAWP licensed under GPL: Select source BBC Weather, enter the city below and press Search. It should not be a big problem to get forecast for Europe countries from that source. However, current situation wrt weather plasmoids is ridiculous though. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+(Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid )?content=94106 It has a nice way to configure and it's able to be set just entering the name of my really small city. May I propose this weather applet for future packaging instead of the two or at least as a real alternative to the old one? A standard procedure is to file RFP. About the networkmanagement applet, I'm completely unable to make it work. It an not connect to hidden AP, like mine, and even if I change the AP options to broadcast the ESSID, since I have a WEP128 passphrase encoded network I can't still connect. What happens is that the applet changes the passphrase from the original 128bit to 40bit. Why? I have tried to put directly the hexadecimal translated password in the proper configuration field but unsuccessfully. Does anyone know if it's actually possible to use this applet on WEP128 encrypted networks and give me hints? Thank you Don't expect it to work perfectly. It is really buggy at the moment (either works for you or not). And there have not been much movement forward upstream in the last month so... -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: New plasma-widgets
Alle venerdì 27 marzo 2009, Modestas Vainius ha scritto: Select source BBC Weather, enter the city below and press Search. It should not be a big problem to get forecast for Europe countries from that source. However, current situation wrt weather plasmoids is ridiculous though. Thank you, I have just discovered that if you put Roma in the search field, they give you Roma in Queensland, while if you ask for Rome, then they give you Rome, Italy... Anyhow I don't live in Rome/Roma but in a smaller centre and to find a working city name, considering this mess between English names and Italian names, near enough is not that easy using this Weather Applet. The other I mentioned is straight forward at least for me. A standard procedure is to file RFP. I'm going to use this standard procedure, my intention was just asking it in an informal way before any other step. Cheers
Re: New plasma-widgets
On Friday 27 March 2009 22:48:21 Valerio Passini wrote: only to choice weather services among a subset of countries belonging to the Commonwealth Valerio, I find that the BBC weather service isn't that great either for Commonwealth countries. I'm in Australia and it is sometimes quite off the current conditions outside. Not really surprising given that the BBC are on the other side of the world. I guess some more localised plugins for local weather would be a sensible way forward. Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: New plasma-widgets
It's not a matter of distance, that weather service is just bad. I'm in Madrid, Spain, not too far from Britain, and rather often it says it's cloudy here when outside the sky is completely clean and the sun shines like brused gold, :-/ I hope these plasmoids will add the more weather services to choose in future versions. Regards El Viernes 27 Marzo 2009 23:42:39 Mark Purcell escribió: I find that the BBC weather service isn't that great either for Commonwealth countries. I'm in Australia and it is sometimes quite off the current conditions outside. Not really surprising given that the BBC are on the other side of the world. I guess some more localised plugins for local weather would be a sensible way forward. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New plasma-widgets
Alle venerdì 27 marzo 2009, Mark Purcell ha scritto: I guess some more localised plugins for local weather would be a sensible way forward. Following the suggestion from Modestas, I have filed an RFP to Debian BTS, but I have decided to promote the packaging of a different plasmoid for weather forecast that can use much more weather services than those already packaged and the one proposed by me at the beginning: its name is CWP and his already one of the preferred plasmoids among kde-look users. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Customizable+Weather+Plasmoid+(CWP)?content=98925 As usual, there is a trade off between simplicity and possibility to configure application: this one is a bit more complicated than yaWP. I don't know if there is a way to push for packaging an application on Debian, in particular this plasmoid is not at all a priority, anyhow if you like it and want to follow its packaging, here there is the link to the bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=521464 For those who can't wait, it's simple to compile it following the instructions inside the tarball.
