Re: Versions mismatch and upload methodology for KDE applications

2022-11-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Luigi Toscano - 04.11.22, 21:58:58 CET:
> Shmerl ha scritto:
> > I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
> > all over the place. Examples:
> > 
> > kmail: 22.08.2
> > konsole: 22.08.1
> > okular: 22.04.3
> > and etc.
> > 
> > So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.
> > 
> > Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
> > applications at once for all of them to have the same version?
> 
> I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those
> programs are part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software
> which is released together, but it doesn't automatically imply a
> dependency between the various applications. There may be some (for
> example, all bits which mades KDE PIM) but that's not the general
> rule, so they can be updated separately.

Additionally the version numbers of all apps are updated on each KDE 
Gear release, no matter whether there have been changes to them.

That written for Okular for example I expect changes on every major KDE 
Gear release.

Also it can happen that for some reason a package needs to go through 
NEW again and approved by ftpmasters.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin




Re: Versions mismatch and upload methodology for KDE applications

2022-11-10 Thread Patrick Franz
Hej,

Am Freitag, 4. November 2022, 20:47:41 CET schrieb Shmerl:
> I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
> all over the place. Examples:
> 
> kmail: 22.08.2
> konsole: 22.08.1
> okular: 22.04.3
> and etc.
> 
> So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.
> 
> Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
> applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

In short, lack of manpower.

We've automated the packaging of the Frameworks, Plasma and PIM for the 
most part, but Gear isn't quite there yet for various reasons.

If you're interested in getting everything up-to-date, feel free to join 
the effort.


-- 
Med vänliga hälsningar

Patrick Franz




Re: Versions mismatch and upload methodology for KDE applications

2022-11-04 Thread Shmerl
Yeah, I get that they don't always depend on each other,
but it's more about keeping them up to date in the repos.

I thought it might be easier to upload them all at once,
that's why I was asking about methodology of updating
them in Debian.

Shmerl.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:59 PM Luigi Toscano 
wrote:

> I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those programs
> are
> part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released
> together, but it doesn't automatically imply a dependency between the
> various
> applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM)
> but that's not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.
>


Re: Versions mismatch and upload methodology for KDE applications

2022-11-04 Thread Luigi Toscano
Shmerl ha scritto:
> I noticed that versions of KDE applications in Debian repos are
> all over the place. Examples:
> 
> kmail: 22.08.2
> konsole: 22.08.1
> okular: 22.04.3
> and etc.
> 
> So method of uploading them seems random or ad hoc.
> 
> Why aren't KDE maintainers uploading the whole suite of
> applications at once for all of them to have the same version?

I can't speak for the maintainers, but please consider that those programs are
part of KDE Gear, which is just a collection of software which is released
together, but it doesn't automatically imply a dependency between the various
applications. There may be some (for example, all bits which mades KDE PIM)
but that's not the general rule, so they can be updated separately.

-- 
Luigi