Re: how to detect a debian kernel from `uname -r`

2006-01-08 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 08:31:50AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 You are not interested in recordying the debian abi number, or the flavour as
 a subset of the architecture used ? This seems like interesting info.

KLive wasn't originally designed to track distro packages, but mainline
or/and self-built kernels. So at the moment there's simply no place to
store this debian info in the db. I store the uname -m which provides
some interesting info too. I could of course add abi and flavour, but
I'd prefer to try to add stuff that can work for other distro too, so it
needs more thoughts. Right now your /proc/version allows to reliably
identify the branch (i.e. Debian) and the package version, so it's
already very useful (and I already fixed the server code to parse it
correctly ;).


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Bug#346345: linux-source-2.6.15: radeonfb has inverted frequencies for core/memory?

2006-01-08 Thread obi
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 08:25:46AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 05:43:47PM -0800, obi wrote:
  radeonfb: Retreived PLL infos from BIOS
  radeonfb: Reference=27.00 MHz (RefDiv=12) Memory=252.00 Mhz, System=200.00 
  MHz
  
  and this is what rovclock -i ells 
  
  Reference clock from BIOS: 27.0 MHz
  XTAL: 27.0 MHz, RefDiv: 6
  
  Core: 252.0 MHz, Mem: 200.25 MHz
 
 Sounds like a rovclock bug, since radeonfb has it right ?

Well, the ati command (what was that atitool?) when I tested fglrx
reported the same as rovclock. And Xorg repors

(II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=2 max=35000;
xclk=2

but I'm not sure how to parse them ...  

If those are indeed the right values, that would definetely explain why I
didn't have any problems so far :).

thanks,
graziano

 
 Friendly,
 
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Re: how to detect a debian kernel from `uname -r`

2006-01-08 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 08:48:20AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 You could simply add the two distro-specific information, the full package
 name (2.6.14-2-amd64-k8) and the distro version number (2.6.14-7). I guess
 in additional often-intrusive patches, and will probably use a meaningful
 name. it will be embedded in the uname -r name too, probably as
 version-abi-subarch-flavour.

I already store the 'uname -r' as `kernel_release` and the debian package
version is now stored as `kernel_group`, and 'Debian' string is the
`branch`.

I simply don't yet split the info in the kernel_release into
abi/flavour, but thinking about it I can make it visible in the local
column (still not splitted but that's ok). The place where to put it was
more a problem in the visualization than in the storage (since I store
/proc/version so no useful info can get lost ;).  The local column is
what I use to show the git tag for example with mainline.


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non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi,

at least I lost track a bit, so this mail is basically a question to
bring me up to speed.

In 2004, there was a GR that decided to put everything in main under the
DFSG. We had some discussions, but in the end, the result was that all
the non-free firmware bits have to be removed from main before we can
release etch.

Now, my question is: Is there still work open? If so, what? Or is the
current removal of firmware enough, and we can relax on this topic?

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Bug#346345: linux-source-2.6.15: radeonfb has inverted frequencies for core/memory?

2006-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 12:15:45AM -0800, obi wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 08:25:46AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 05:43:47PM -0800, obi wrote:
   radeonfb: Retreived PLL infos from BIOS
   radeonfb: Reference=27.00 MHz (RefDiv=12) Memory=252.00 Mhz, 
   System=200.00 MHz
   
   and this is what rovclock -i ells 
   
   Reference clock from BIOS: 27.0 MHz
   XTAL: 27.0 MHz, RefDiv: 6
   
   Core: 252.0 MHz, Mem: 200.25 MHz
  
  Sounds like a rovclock bug, since radeonfb has it right ?
 
 Well, the ati command (what was that atitool?) when I tested fglrx
 reported the same as rovclock. And Xorg repors
 
 (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=2 max=35000;
 xclk=2

These are probably the output parameters, for the screen or something.

 but I'm not sure how to parse them ...  

Can you check what the real values are, maybe by using some windows tool on
the box, or by hunting the specs of your model on the manufacturer's site or
on various review sites ?

 If those are indeed the right values, that would definetely explain why I
 didn't have any problems so far :).

Well, the other possibility is that the kernel gets it right, but fails to
export it correctly to userland, thus confusing rovclock.

The 200Mhz core clock and 252Mhz ram clock sounds fine and logical.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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Bug#346345: linux-source-2.6.15: radeonfb has inverted frequencies for core/memory?

2006-01-08 Thread obi
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:12:12AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 12:15:45AM -0800, obi wrote:
  On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 08:25:46AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
   On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 05:43:47PM -0800, obi wrote:
radeonfb: Retreived PLL infos from BIOS
radeonfb: Reference=27.00 MHz (RefDiv=12) Memory=252.00 Mhz, 
System=200.00 MHz

and this is what rovclock -i ells 

Reference clock from BIOS: 27.0 MHz
XTAL: 27.0 MHz, RefDiv: 6

Core: 252.0 MHz, Mem: 200.25 MHz
   
   Sounds like a rovclock bug, since radeonfb has it right ?
  
  Well, the ati command (what was that atitool?) when I tested fglrx
  reported the same as rovclock. And Xorg repors
  
  (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=2 max=35000;
  xclk=2
 
 These are probably the output parameters, for the screen or something.
 
  but I'm not sure how to parse them ...  
 
 Can you check what the real values are, maybe by using some windows tool on
 the box, or by hunting the specs of your model on the manufacturer's site or
 on various review sites ?

I don't have windows installed, but I was searching on line these
information. I found an article on
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=1692p=7 where they claim
that M9 (mobility radeon 9000) will have maximum core clock of 250 and
maximum memory speed of 230 (that will be effectively doubled been DDR).
And these number are somewhat in line with the normal Radeon 900 that
comes with a core speed of 250 and memory 200. And the article states
that it's likely that on-chip memory will be clocked at 200. 

  If those are indeed the right values, that would definetely explain why I
  didn't have any problems so far :).
 
 Well, the other possibility is that the kernel gets it right, but fails to
 export it correctly to userland, thus confusing rovclock.

I'm not sure how things works there. Does rovclock rely on the kernel, or
does it read directly from the video card? I'm not quite sure. If I can
help in any way, please let me know. 

 The 200Mhz core clock and 252Mhz ram clock sounds fine and logical.

Indeed, the values are so close after all, that I could read them both
either way. I guess that's why it took me so long to notice this
discrepancy.

thanks
graziano


 
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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
 Hi,
 
 at least I lost track a bit, so this mail is basically a question to
 bring me up to speed.
 
 In 2004, there was a GR that decided to put everything in main under the
 DFSG. We had some discussions, but in the end, the result was that all
 the non-free firmware bits have to be removed from main before we can
 release etch.
 
 Now, my question is: Is there still work open? If so, what? Or is the
 current removal of firmware enough, and we can relax on this topic?

There where two fully independent issues here :

  1) some (many) of those firmware using modules had a sloppy licencing
  situation, which meant the compiled kernels where indeed non-distributable.

  2) those firmware blurbs come without source, and are thus non-free.

We where working to solve 1), since without that, it was not even possible to
distribute these non-free firmwares from even non-free. I think once this is
solved the plan was to :

  1) either make those drivers be able to load the firmware from an external
  file, which we could then include in the initramfs from a non-free source.

  2) remove those drivers entirely from the main linux-2.6, and have them
  distributed from the linux-nonfree-2.6 package from our non-free section.

Currently neither is done, and we have just reincorporated those modules, in
part because our external-module framework and linux-nonfree-2.6 packages
where not yet technically ready to handle this, and we chose to concentrate on
the other steps first, leaving this aside for later, when the infrastructure
would be ready.

Now, there is a current of thinking who doesn't agree that those modules
require sources and that we should not worry about this, this could be in part
true (it is said that some of those firmwares where written directly with an
hex-editor, but i believe not all are done such), but it is rather unlikely we
will be able to determine that or not. In any case, there are always those,
like with the GFDL situation, who would not want to worry about this and let
it slip in silently, or hope for another derogation, or simply believe it is
not an issue.

So, basically, we have postponed the issue until later, when our
infrastructure is up to handling this, knowing that the removal of modules and
the build of non-free modules in non-free will probably not be such a
time-consuming issue that it will be causing major problems.

I suppose the right way to solve this (doing 1) is another matter and more of
the area of upstream work than debian work, it is the better solution though,
not sure if it would be ready for the etch timeframe though.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060108 11:12]:
 There where two fully independent issues here :
 
   1) some (many) of those firmware using modules had a sloppy licencing
   situation, which meant the compiled kernels where indeed non-distributable.
 
   2) those firmware blurbs come without source, and are thus non-free.
 
 We where working to solve 1), since without that, it was not even possible to
 distribute these non-free firmwares from even non-free. I think once this is
 solved the plan was to :
 
   1) either make those drivers be able to load the firmware from an external
   file, which we could then include in the initramfs from a non-free source.
 
   2) remove those drivers entirely from the main linux-2.6, and have them
   distributed from the linux-nonfree-2.6 package from our non-free section.

This matches with what I remember.


 Currently neither is done, and we have just reincorporated those modules, in

With neither, you mean: neither the sloppy licensed modules nor the
non-free firmware?

 part because our external-module framework and linux-nonfree-2.6 packages
 where not yet technically ready to handle this, and we chose to concentrate on
 the other steps first, leaving this aside for later, when the infrastructure
 would be ready.

What needs to be done to get the infrastructure ready? Do you think it
might make sense to try to get it done e.g. at a BSP?


 Now, there is a current of thinking who doesn't agree that those modules
 require sources and that we should not worry about this, this could be in part
 true (it is said that some of those firmwares where written directly with an
 hex-editor, but i believe not all are done such), but it is rather unlikely we
 will be able to determine that or not.

Well, there might be cases where the binary blob is enough, but I think
we agree that
a) this is probably the exception and not the rule, and
b) this requires a case-per-case-inspection.


 In any case, there are always those,
 like with the GFDL situation, who would not want to worry about this and let
 it slip in silently, or hope for another derogation, or simply believe it is
 not an issue.

Well, we as release managers have the task to make sure it doesn't slip
away (that's one of the reasons there are cheat lis^W^Wtracking lists).
If people think it's a non-issues, they can try to change the DFSG - for
the release team, the current valid DFSG is part of the RC check list.


 I suppose the right way to solve this (doing 1) is another matter and more of
 the area of upstream work than debian work, it is the better solution though,
 not sure if it would be ready for the etch timeframe though.

The question of sloppy licenses is indeed an upstream issue - however,
that doesn't mean we can shut our eyes when we come over such an issue.
The DFSG-freeness is our own issue.


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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
 * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060108 11:12]:
  There where two fully independent issues here :
  
1) some (many) of those firmware using modules had a sloppy licencing
situation, which meant the compiled kernels where indeed 
  non-distributable.
  
2) those firmware blurbs come without source, and are thus non-free.
  
  We where working to solve 1), since without that, it was not even possible 
  to
  distribute these non-free firmwares from even non-free. I think once this is
  solved the plan was to :
  
1) either make those drivers be able to load the firmware from an external
file, which we could then include in the initramfs from a non-free source.
  
2) remove those drivers entirely from the main linux-2.6, and have them
distributed from the linux-nonfree-2.6 package from our non-free section.
 
 This matches with what I remember.
 
 
  Currently neither is done, and we have just reincorporated those modules, in
 
 With neither, you mean: neither the sloppy licensed modules nor the
 non-free firmware?

Nope, the sloppy licencing is being solved, but none of the solution to 2).

  part because our external-module framework and linux-nonfree-2.6 packages
  where not yet technically ready to handle this, and we chose to concentrate 
  on
  the other steps first, leaving this aside for later, when the infrastructure
  would be ready.
 
 What needs to be done to get the infrastructure ready? Do you think it
 might make sense to try to get it done e.g. at a BSP?

waldi is working on it, and it is on our todo list, i am not sure it is
something which can be fixed in a BSP, altough maybe some brainstorm session
would be of benefit. Still i think there are other issues of bigger priority
right now, and my focus is on the .udeb integration in linux-2.6, as well as
some automated config file checking and a better split-config implementation.
Once the .udeb integration is done, the next step on my TODO list is indeed
the out-of-tree module thingy, which once finalized, would make the
linux-non-free-2.6 package easier. We would need to re-remove those drivers
though.

  Now, there is a current of thinking who doesn't agree that those modules
  require sources and that we should not worry about this, this could be in 
  part
  true (it is said that some of those firmwares where written directly with an
  hex-editor, but i believe not all are done such), but it is rather unlikely 
  we
  will be able to determine that or not.
 
 Well, there might be cases where the binary blob is enough, but I think
 we agree that
 a) this is probably the exception and not the rule, and
 b) this requires a case-per-case-inspection.

And how exactly can you guarantee this is the case without being the guy who
wrote the code, and even so, how could we be sure to thrust such a guy
claiming that it is the ultimate source code ?

  In any case, there are always those,
  like with the GFDL situation, who would not want to worry about this and let
  it slip in silently, or hope for another derogation, or simply believe it is
  not an issue.
 
 Well, we as release managers have the task to make sure it doesn't slip
 away (that's one of the reasons there are cheat lis^W^Wtracking lists).
 If people think it's a non-issues, they can try to change the DFSG - for
 the release team, the current valid DFSG is part of the RC check list.

But as you said, it is highly unlikely that you will be removing the kernel
package, so you need to work with the kernel maintainers :)

The main problem is one of ressources, and we need a single person who can
devote time and effort to follow up on all those drivers, and see if the
firmware can be removed from them or not. Right now everyone is focused
on other stuff.

  I suppose the right way to solve this (doing 1) is another matter and more 
  of
  the area of upstream work than debian work, it is the better solution 
  though,
  not sure if it would be ready for the etch timeframe though.
 
 The question of sloppy licenses is indeed an upstream issue - however,
 that doesn't mean we can shut our eyes when we come over such an issue.
 The DFSG-freeness is our own issue.

Nope, upstream didn't care about sloppy licence, the upstream issue is to have
the firmware removed from the driver and provide infrastructure to load it
from initramfs.

But the real problem is we are all volunteers, and if nobody has the will to
work on this, what can you do ? And if those more likely to work on this are
not convinced by the non-freeness or do not care ...

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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module packages and linux-nonfree-2.6 infrastructure

2006-01-08 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks

I implemented an infrastructure for module packages (including
linux-nonfree-2.6). It is similar to the gencontrol[1] mechanism used in
linux-2.6, in fact it reuses most of the code.

It provides currently the following (in the linux-headers-2.6.15
package):
- A copy of debian/arch, e.g. the kernel and package config.
- A copy of debian/lib.
The missing parts are:
- A script which does the module package specific tasks.
- A makefile snippet.

Most of the how to use it-code is already in
/people/waldi/linux-nonfree-2.6.

Bastian

[1] gencontrol builds two files, debian/control and debian/rules.gen.
debian/rules.gen is a large makefile, which calls debian/rules.real
for any target with a bunch pregenerated data.

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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi,

* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060108 14:00]:
 On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
  What needs to be done to get the infrastructure ready? Do you think it
  might make sense to try to get it done e.g. at a BSP?

 waldi is working on it, and it is on our todo list, i am not sure it is
 something which can be fixed in a BSP, altough maybe some brainstorm session
 would be of benefit.

Well, if there is anything I can do to help you (including writing mails
to d-d-a :), please tell me.


  Well, there might be cases where the binary blob is enough, but I think
  we agree that
  a) this is probably the exception and not the rule, and
  b) this requires a case-per-case-inspection.

 And how exactly can you guarantee this is the case without being the guy who
 wrote the code, and even so, how could we be sure to thrust such a guy
 claiming that it is the ultimate source code ?

Well, in most cases, we cannot make ultimate guarantees. But for
example, if you package any software for inclusion in Debian, you
normally read through the accompying files. Usually, you can of course
take it for granted what is written therein - however, if you notice
they look like some GPLed-software, and is now something with an
GPL-incompatible license, some more checks are required. The same is
true here: One can usually make pretty much progress with some basic
common sanity and with looking a bit around. Of course, some corner
cases will stay to continue.

What we as release team really need is some statement from the
maintainers team like we have done some thorough search through the
sources, and are sure that the reminder is now DFSG-free (according to
the changed DFSG). We usually trust the maintainers about correctly
summarizing issues, and also about judging correct whether some software
is DFSG-free or not. Of course, we all (and that includes of course also
me) sometimes make mistakes, that is just human.



  Well, we as release managers have the task to make sure it doesn't slip
  away (that's one of the reasons there are cheat lis^W^Wtracking lists).
  If people think it's a non-issues, they can try to change the DFSG - for
  the release team, the current valid DFSG is part of the RC check list.
 
 But as you said, it is highly unlikely that you will be removing the kernel
 package, so you need to work with the kernel maintainers :)
 
 The main problem is one of ressources, and we need a single person who can
 devote time and effort to follow up on all those drivers, and see if the
 firmware can be removed from them or not. Right now everyone is focused
 on other stuff.

Hm. I have some mean ideas, but let's wait if someone comes up on his
own.



Thanks for this frank status update for me.


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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:04:33PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
 What we as release team really need is some statement from the
 maintainers team like we have done some thorough search through the
 sources, and are sure that the reminder is now DFSG-free (according to
 the changed DFSG). We usually trust the maintainers about correctly
 summarizing issues, and also about judging correct whether some software
 is DFSG-free or not. Of course, we all (and that includes of course also
 me) sometimes make mistakes, that is just human.

Sure, i can make you a statement that there still are non-DFSG free firmware
in the current debian kernel package, and i don't know when we will be able to
solve the issues, and i heard statement of a few members of the kernel team
stating that those binary-only blurbs are the source of themselves, and thus
not an issue.

So, now, what are you going to do about it, remove the kernel from main and
into non-free :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#346511: ext3 online resizing doesn't work

2006-01-08 Thread Tore Anderson

Package: linux-2.6
Version: 2.6.15-1

  I can't get online resizing of ext3 to work.  The kernel spits out

EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option resize=1572864 or missing value

  when I try to remount the filesystem, supplying the resize option.
 Documentation/filesystems/ext3.txt says it should be there, and from
 what I can understand of fs/ext3/super.c and its parse_options() the
 resize option is supposed to be understood by the kernel.  Am I doing
 something wrong?  I have created the file system using mkfs -E resize.
 Resizing JFS (using the exact same procedure) works just fine.

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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060108 17:00]:
 So, now, what are you going to do about it, remove the kernel from main and
 into non-free :)

As this is a release blocker, not release until this is fixed? (And try
to search for someone who can work on this issue, perhaps also say
something in the next release update.)

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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 05:14:02PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
 * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060108 17:00]:
  So, now, what are you going to do about it, remove the kernel from main and
  into non-free :)
 
 As this is a release blocker, not release until this is fixed? (And try
 to search for someone who can work on this issue, perhaps also say
 something in the next release update.)

I believe in 2 month or so it will be the right moment to tackle this. I feel
that, as i said on d-r, the work needing done on the packaging infrastructure
goes like this :

  - prepare the kernel so it builds the module .udeb in a way satisfying to
the d-i people.

  - get the out-of-tree module policy up, and make sure each such package
respect it. This include triggering a binNMU on the buildds for a new
ABI version for those module package, and having them build binary modules
for each kernel flavour.

  - get the third-party patches situation solved neatly

I believe we can tackle the non-free modules just after the out-of-tree
situation is solved neatly, but i am working on the .udeb situation right now,
or more exactly on a newer better split-config handling which will make .udeb
generation easier.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#340752: linux-source-2.6.14: switches networkdevices unpredictable

2006-01-08 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
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Hi,

I got the same error with 2.6.14. The kernel was assigning network
devices randomly on boot despite hard coding them in /etc/modutils/local
with:
alias eth0 via-rhine
alias eth1 8139too

Upgrading to 2.6.15 fixed the error, however I also upgraded several
other system components, so I am not sure what exactly fixed the bug.
But it works now for me.


Regards,
  Bastian
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Bug#346511: ext3 online resizing doesn't work

2006-01-08 Thread Tore Anderson
* Tore Anderson

   I can't get online resizing of ext3 to work.

  After some more debugging it seems that the resize option isn't
 correctly parsed by fs/ext3/super.c.  Patch attached.  However, I'm not
 too sure if it is correct, right now my mount process is hanging in
 blocking I/O state, and there's almost no disk activity.  I started it
 two and a half hour ago...  The only thing the kernel had to say about
 it was:

EXT3-fs warning (device dm-3): ext3_group_extend: will only finish group 
(4194305 blocks, 1 new)

  I suspect ext2online(8) is the only supported way of doing online
 resizing, and that the resize= mount option is intentionally broken
 because of that.  Perhaps it's a relic from the early days of the code
 in question...  But I don't know.

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Fix parsing of the resize=nblocks ext3 (re)mount option.

Signed-off-by: Tore Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

diff --git a/fs/ext3/super.c b/fs/ext3/super.c
index 4e67306..1eb16f5 100644
--- a/fs/ext3/super.c
+++ b/fs/ext3/super.c
@@ -681,8 +681,8 @@ static match_table_t tokens = {
{Opt_quota, quota},
{Opt_usrquota, usrquota},
{Opt_barrier, barrier=%u},
+   {Opt_resize, resize=%u},
{Opt_err, NULL},
-   {Opt_resize, resize},
 };
 
 static unsigned long get_sb_block(void **data)


Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hallo,

On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:10:46AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
  Now, my question is: Is there still work open? If so, what? Or is the
  current removal of firmware enough, and we can relax on this topic? 

From my point of view, the situation currently looks like this:

1. tg3 and qla2xxx driver status has been solved: upstream has
relicensed the drivers - the sourcecode is licensed under the GPL, the 
firmware data is freely distributable as an aggregate work. 

2. Some other drivers permit free distribution, but the license is too 
restrictive for Debian main. Among these drivers we find acenic, dgrs, 
smctr and keyspan. These are currently waiting for an updated license
or will not likely be relicensed at all (like the acenic driver), thus
they are put together in the linux-nonfree-2.6 package. 

3. Some drivers still need to be checked, a somewhat outdated status is
to be found here:

http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing

So there might still be some drivers we have to relocate from the main
package to the non-free one, and possibly some drivers we might not 
distribute at all. 


 Now, there is a current of thinking who doesn't agree that those modules
 require sources and that we should not worry about this, this could be in part
 true (it is said that some of those firmwares where written directly with an
 hex-editor, but i believe not all are done such), but it is rather unlikely we
 will be able to determine that or not. In any case, there are always those,
 like with the GFDL situation, who would not want to worry about this and let
 it slip in silently, or hope for another derogation, or simply believe it is
 not an issue.

I think the firmware is a data part of the driver, and the driver _as a
whole_ is - in the social contract terms - the component we have to look 
at. If the driver source is available and the license is DFSG-free, it 
can be distributed in main. 

What we call firmware is a hexdump of data not executed on the host CPU
but uploaded to the hardware during initialization, thus plain simple
data from the CPU point of view, and a hexdump is the preferred format
of redistribution of this part of the source.


In the end, trying to solve this issue, we might find an agreement on
the following question:

Is the firmware the component which source has to be available in a
different format, or is the driver as a whole - including the FW - the 
component, which we already have the sources from?


Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Preparing 2.5.15-2

2006-01-08 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

I would like to propose a schedule for the next upload of
linux-2.6 version 2.6.15-2: 

I would like to make the dinstall run on tuesday, so everything should
be committed and tested until tuesday noontime UTC.

Looking at the changelog, there are quiet a few bugs this upload will
close, and some changes are pretty important - take alone 
initramfs-tools becoming the default dependency among initrd tools.

If someone needs more time to implement changes which must go into -2,
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Re: Preparing 2.5.15-2

2006-01-08 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:03:17PM +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 If someone needs more time to implement changes which must go into -2,
 please reply accordingly.


I have a few changes I need to make for parisc configs (DISCONTIGMEM
didn't get enabled on the 64-bit configs for some reason). I'll try to
have this done either tonight, or by midnight EST Monday.

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Bug#346511: ext3 online resizing doesn't work

2006-01-08 Thread Tore Anderson
* Bastian Blank

 Stock linux does not support online resizing of ext3.

  It does (since 2.6.10).  I've successfully extended mounted ext3 file
 systems using ext2online from ext2resize 1.1.19-3 on an unmodified
 2.6.15-1-k7.  

  However the more I've looked into it, the more certain I've become
 that it is Documentation/filesystems/ext3.txt that is incorrect - the
 resize=nblocks mount option is probably disabled due to the fact that
 it's not working properly;  using ext2online(8) is currently the only
 way to do it.  Or so it seems to me.

  I just submitted a patch upstream that corrects the documentation, so
 it's probably going to be fixed in the next upstream release, but it's
 fine by me to close the bug already now anyway.

Kind regards
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Version: 2.6.15-1

  I can't get online resizing of ext3 to work.  The kernel spits out

EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option resize=1572864 or missing value

  when I try to remount the filesystem, supplying the resize option.
 Documentation/filesystems/ext3.txt says it should be there, and from
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On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:56:17PM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote:
   I can't get online resizing of ext3 to work.  The kernel spits out

Stock linux does not support online resizing of ext3.

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Re: Preparing 2.5.15-2

2006-01-08 Thread Maximilian Attems
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:03:17PM +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 
 I would like to make the dinstall run on tuesday, so everything should
 be committed and tested until tuesday noontime UTC.
 

will fix the buslogic patch till then.

and expect an klibc upload tommorrow.

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Re: Preparing 2.5.15-2

2006-01-08 Thread David Goodenough
On Sunday 08 January 2006 21:03, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to propose a schedule for the next upload of
 linux-2.6 version 2.6.15-2:

 I would like to make the dinstall run on tuesday, so everything should
 be committed and tested until tuesday noontime UTC.

 Looking at the changelog, there are quiet a few bugs this upload will
 close, and some changes are pretty important - take alone
 initramfs-tools becoming the default dependency among initrd tools.

 If someone needs more time to implement changes which must go into -2,
 please reply accordingly.


 Best regards
 Frederik Schueler
Could you put in the change that was in the hostap-source since
2003 and is not in the in kernel version of hostap.  Line 31 (a #define)
is commented in hostap_config.h.  If it is uncommented then hostap will be
able to flash new firmware.  Please see my earlier post on the subject.

Ta

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Re: Preparing 2.5.15-2

2006-01-08 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hallo,

On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:23:54PM +, David Goodenough wrote:
 Could you put in the change that was in the hostap-source since
 2003 and is not in the in kernel version of hostap.  Line 31 (a #define)
 is commented in hostap_config.h.  If it is uncommented then hostap will be
 able to flash new firmware.  Please see my earlier post on the subject.

Can you please file a bug against linux-2.6 on this and possibly add a 
patch for 2.6.15?

Is this change likely to be included upstream, or was it already
rejected? 

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Re: non-free firmware

2006-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:50:47PM +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote:
 Hallo,
 
 On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:10:46AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
   Now, my question is: Is there still work open? If so, what? Or is the
   current removal of firmware enough, and we can relax on this topic? 
 
 From my point of view, the situation currently looks like this:
 
 1. tg3 and qla2xxx driver status has been solved: upstream has
 relicensed the drivers - the sourcecode is licensed under the GPL, the 
 firmware data is freely distributable as an aggregate work. 

The firmware is still source-less, and it is not data, as it represents
microcode destined to be run on the controller it is uploaded to.

They are now distributable at least though, which means we can stick them in
non-free.

 I think the firmware is a data part of the driver, and the driver _as a
 whole_ is - in the social contract terms - the component we have to look 
 at. If the driver source is available and the license is DFSG-free, it 
 can be distributed in main. 

Even though i would like it if you were right, and it would make our task
easier, this is clearly contrary to what was voted in the last GR, which
considered all manner of things as software, and thus needing source,
documentation, fonts and naturally firmware.

 What we call firmware is a hexdump of data not executed on the host CPU
 but uploaded to the hardware during initialization, thus plain simple
 data from the CPU point of view, and a hexdump is the preferred format
 of redistribution of this part of the source.

You are trying to ignore the real point though, what we consider code or
source or whatever is fully independent of if it runs on the main CPU or on a
secondary controller like it is here. It remains code, and it remains
binary-only, and thus non-DFSG-free. There is no amount of playing with words
which will allow us to ignore that fact, and i am sure that deep inside
yourself you also understand this.

And no, the hexdump is not the prefered way of modifying this one, at least
they run it through a bin2c kind of program, and they have at least some kind
of assembler transforming some keywords and such into this binary.

 In the end, trying to solve this issue, we might find an agreement on
 the following question:
 
 Is the firmware the component which source has to be available in a
 different format, or is the driver as a whole - including the FW - the 
 component, which we already have the sources from?

Each part has to be free on its own, naturally. Imagine if i distributed a
non-free binary, which i bin2c'ed into a hexdump, and then i wrote a free
program to load it, or even better, which loaded it onto a remote system and
executed it there. Would then providing the source code for the loader program
mean my binary-only executable becomes free all of a sudden ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#268583: marked as done (hotplug failure with shpchp and pciehp)

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Package: hotplug
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On startup hotplug spews error messages for shpchp and pciehp modules.

This is from /var/log/boot:

 modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting shpchp \
   (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/shpchp.ko): \
   Operation not permitted
 shpchp: can't be loaded
 missing kernel or user mode driver shpchp

Same with pciehp.

These are my PCI devices in case it matters:

$ lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge 
(rev 03)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge 
(rev 03)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 12)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 12)
:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 12)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 12)
:00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 12)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio 
(rev 12)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra 
TF
:02:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

I'm on Debian 3.1 with kernel-image-2.6.7-1-68 (PIII) and module-init-tools 
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Package: hotplug
Version: 0.0.20040329-14
Severity: normal

During boot time, hotplug gives me the following errors:

Sep  1 16:52:58 ebbjw isapnp.rc[6340]:  parport_pc: loaded sucessfully
Sep  1 16:52:59 ebbjw pci.agent[6431]:  intel-agp: already loaded
Sep  1 16:53:01 ebbjw pci.agent[6459]:  pciehp: can't be loaded
Sep  1 16:53:01 ebbjw pci.agent[6459]: missing kernel or user mode driver 
pciehp 
Sep  1 16:53:01 ebbjw pci.agent[6459]:  shpchp: can't be loaded
Sep  1 16:53:01 ebbjw pci.agent[6459]: missing kernel or user mode driver 
shpchp 

I do not know how serious is that.  I did not observe any adverse effects
in my system.  The corresponding modules cannot be loaded manually:

ebbjw:/home/january# modprobe pciehp
FATAL: Error inserting pciehp 
(/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/pciehp.ko): Operation not 
permitted
ebbjw:/home/january# modprobe shpchp
FATAL: Error inserting shpchp 
(/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/shpchp.ko): Operation not 
permitted

I have a Thinkpad X20 laptop.

Could it be somehow related to the fact that hotplug does not load all
necessary modules to have a working PS/2 mouse?  I need to put psmouse in
/etc/modules, otherwise it is not loaded correctly (see bug 247126).

Regards,
January


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Debian Release: 3.1
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  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-1-386
Locale: LANG=pl_PL, LC_CTYPE=pl_PL

Versions of packages hotplug depends on:
ii  debconf  1.4.30  Debian configuration management sy
ii  grep 2.5.1.ds1-3 GNU grep, egrep and fgrep
ii  module-init-tools3.1-pre5-6  tools for managing Linux kernel mo
ii  modutils 2.4.26-1Linux module utilities
ii  procps   1:3.2.1-2   The /proc file system utilities

-- debconf information:
  hotplug/ignore_pci_class_display: true
  hotplug/net_agent_policy: hotplug
* hotplug/usb_keyboard:
  hotplug/static_module_list:
  hotplug/x11_usbmice_hack: false


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Re: Bug#346281: linux-image-2.6.15-1-686: debconf question about /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686 even if no kernel is installed

2006-01-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
reassign 346281 linux-image-2.6.15-1-686
thanks

Hi

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:23:33 +0100, Ludovic Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 

 Package: linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 Version: 2.6.15-1 Severity: normal

 I installed linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686 and then
 linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 and I get the debconf question about You
 are attempting to install a kernel image (version
 2.6.15-1-686). However, the directory /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686
 still exists.

 The directory /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686 exists but only contains
 (because linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686 is already installed): $ ls -al
 /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686 total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096
 2006-01-06 19:04 .  drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2006-01-06 19:04 ..
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2006-01-06 19:04 build -
 /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686

Why is the kernel headers package still installing a build
 link?  The  Wiki article at
   http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModulesPackaging 
 states that we shall use /usr/src/linux-headers-foo as KSRC, and when
 you install a kernel headers _and a kernel image (in any order), the
 build link shall be correctly set.

Still shipping a build link in the headers package is a bug,
 and is not supported. kernel-package by itself does not ship a link
 in the headers package, but handles the link in the postinsts, so
 that the image and header packages do not have to conflict.

manoj
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Processed: err, send to right address

2006-01-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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 reassign 346281 linux-image-2.6.15-1-686
Bug#346281: linux-image-2.6.15-1-686: debconf question about 
/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686 even if no kernel is installed
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Bug#346604: kernel errors after reboot

2006-01-08 Thread Сергей Ниваров
Package: linux-image-2.6.14-2-686
Version: 2.6.14-7

I have ALC880. When turn on machine it works fine. kern.log:
Jan  9 03:20:07 newarrow kernel: hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC880, trying 
auto-probe from BIOS...
Jan  9 03:20:07 newarrow kernel: hda_codec: Cannot set up configuration from 
BIOS.  Using 3-stack mode...

After reboot i have no sound. kern.log:
Jan  9 03:04:36 newarrow kernel: hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC880, trying 
auto-probe from BIOS...
Jan  9 03:04:36 newarrow kernel: hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0x8
Jan  9 03:04:36 newarrow last message repeated 3 times
Jan  9 03:04:36 newarrow kernel: hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0xb
Jan  9 03:04:36 newarrow last message repeated 19 times

If i reboot again, i have same probs. this happens untill i halt machine. Then, 
it works fine again till next reboot.

I am using Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 with few upgrades from testing: alsa-base 
1.0.10-3, libc6 2.3.5-6 (and its dependences) and linux-image-2.6.14-2-686 from 
unstable.

Sergey Nivarov



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Bug#345864: I've experienced this bug.

2006-01-08 Thread Itai Seggev
IJYTS that I've expereinced this bug and that it corrupted my root
file system. However, it only happened under some very unique
circumstances. 

I reinstalled from sarge DVD's, then upgraded to etch pacakges. I then
restored my original /etc (which I backed up to a separate partition)
and rebooted, which recorrupted my root FS. (This was mid December,
right around the 15th). However, if I just went forward with the new
udev configuration and restored my hdparm paramters, the problem did
not resurface. So I'm not sure if the problem was with one specific
version of udev, or perhaps local modifications of the config files,
but it was not pleasant. :( This happened with by 2.6.12 and 2.6.13
(and maybe 2.6.8?), so I don't think it's a problem with a specific
kernel version but (at least for) a problem with a specific version of
udev. 

I believe I still have my ole /etc and can supply you with lspci
output or other information if you feel it would be useful. 

--
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Bug#347147: kernel-headers-2.6: asm/param.h includes linux/autoconf.h

2006-01-08 Thread Petr Baudis
Package: kernel-headers-2.6
Severity: minor

With this package installed, when you include sys/params.h in your
program, you will get a severe namespace pollution since
linux/autoconf.h indirectly gets included and it #undefs all sort of
CONFIG_ preprocessor macros (e.g. ELinks using CONFIG_IPV6 macro
internally was affected).

This is not a major bug; Gentoo and Debian Woody don't have the problem
(asm/params.h doesn't include anything), but sys/params.h is probably
not standardized anywhere so it's not really specified what exactly
happens when you include it. Still, such a wide collateral damage is
quite unexpected and wastes some time until it gets discovered what went
on...

Possible solution would be to grab CONFIG_HZ information at the package
build time.

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Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
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Room/Apartment

2006-01-08 Thread Harry Goodman
Hello,
  I am interested in room.I am based in UK but temporarily in France on a 
contract job with a MISSIONARY group as a humanitarian.I will be having some 
seminars coming up soon in the canada and My next programme/seminars will be in 
the Canada.I will be needing a room to stay for this and I need to secure a 
room before my arrival to Canada.I am involved in projects that includes 
orphans,orphanage,heart related diseases in children b/w the ages of 4-10yrs.I 
will also like to see pics and to know the move in price.Pls do get back to me 
if this is okay.

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2006-01-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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 reassign 339562 linux-2.6
Bug#339562: Strace is broken for kernels 2.6.13 and newer on sparc
Bug reassigned from package `strace' to `linux-2.6'.

 tags 339562 pending
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Bug#347178: System Hang on Dialup connection

2006-01-08 Thread Alan Baghumian

Package: linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7
Version: 2.6.15-1-k7-1

System hangs on send/revc data with dialup connection. Simply connect  
with a dialup connection (configured with pppconfig, connected with  
pon), open a Firefox browser window and open few tabs. System hangs.  
Sometimes I have the same problem when receiving data in gnome-terminal  
aith apt-get. There is no problem with kernel: 2.6.14-2-k7-6.


Kernel: 2.6.15-1-k7-1
libc6: 2.3.5-11

Same problem with 2 different machines:

PC#1:
AMD athlon thunderbird 1333MHz
Gigabyte 7ZXE M/B
256 MB SD-RAM PC133
Gforce2 MX440 DDR 64MB G/C

PC#2:
AMD athlon thunderbird 1333MHz
Gigabyte 7VM M/B
512 MB DDR 400 RAM
ATI Radeon 7000 64 MB

Regards,
Alan






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Package: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-sparc64
Version: 2.6.11-5
Severity: normal

I have this kernel running OK on a headless system, but it seems to be
non-useful on the console.  This is on a Blade 100 running OBP 4.15.7,
in case that's relevant.

The console output is messed up.  The first column is missing and a
fraction of characters are duplicated/overprinted or replaced by
non-ASCII ones.  It looks rather as though there's an off-by-one error
in assembling bits of a buffer.

When I started X, the mouse didn't work -- no pointer appeared -- but
there wasn't any obvious error in the server log.  I tried unplugging
the mouse with no effect.

All was OK when I reverted to the stable kernel.

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Architecture: sparc (sparc64)
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Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Versions of packages kernel-image-2.6.11-1-sparc64 depends on:
ii  initrd-tools  0.1.81.1   tools to create initrd image for p
ii  module-init-tools 3.2-pre1-2 tools for managing Linux kernel mo

kernel-image-2.6.11-1-sparc64 recommends no packages.

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Version: 2.6.15-1

This was supposed to be closed by the next upload of 2.6.14 which never 
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