Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 07:39:21AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 06:49:32AM +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:46:09PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
   
On Aug 08, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
We Do Not Distribute Non-Free Software No Matter How Much It Helps Our
Users.
   
Now think about why we do not do it.
   
   It does not matter.  Different members of Debian have different
   reasons.  We have all agreed to work together on the basis of the
   Social Contract, which says that We Do Not Distribute Non-Free
   Software No Matter How Much It Helps Our Users.
  
# Our priorities are our users and free software
  
We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software 
  community.
We will place their interests first in our priorities. We will support the
needs of our users for operation in many different kinds of computing
environments. We will not object to non-free works that are intended to be
used on Debian systems, or attempt to charge a fee to people who create or
use such works. We will allow others to create distributions containing 
  both
the Debian system and other works, without any fee from us. In furtherance
of these goals, we will provide an integrated system of high-quality
materials with no legal restrictions that would prevent such uses of the
system.
 
 Where do you read we allow ourselves to distribute non-free software for
 user convenience ?

Well, it reads to me that we won't screw our users without second thought like 
some
here are proposing.

But then, i repeat, everyone is very welcome to participate in solving this
the nice way, and i am highly impatient to see the extensive listings you and
others may produce, and then some plan on how to go forward from there.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#381994: linux-image-2.6.16-17: SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C doesn't work

2006-08-08 Thread Tomi Pievilainen
Package: linux-image-2.6.16-17
Severity: normal

I have a BusLogic BT-946C scsi controller. lspci -v:

:00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30)
[MultiMaster 10] (rev 08)

My system is installed on my scsi harddrives. Testing's and unstable's
newest kernels fail to mount / with messages:

scsi0: BusLogic BT-958 Initialized Succesfully
sd 0:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
sd 0:0:010: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery

The initialization runs multiple times, with the first one having more
information and latter ones with just that one line. Weird thing is,
that Etch netinst cd works just fine. I was able to install the system
with no hitches, only after booting to the system it fails.

I managed to test the newest kernel form unstable by booting Knoppix
(which works...), chrooting and dpkg -i:ng the kernel deb, but it fails
with the same messages ending in busybox. Sarge's 2.6.8 works too.

The install cd's dmesg shows the controller initialization only once,
it's almost like it would constantly turn on/off with the kernels that
won't work.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.16
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

When installing debian-edu-artwork-usplash, the initrd is updated
twice, once in the usplash postinst, and once in the
debian-edu-artwork-usplash postinst.  This seem like a waste of time
to me.  Could it be possible to rewrite initramfs-tools to make sure
the initrd is only generated once, at the end of the install?

One idea is to make two commands, update-initramfs-intent and
update-initramfs-delayed, where the former register the packages
intent to run update-initramfs in their config script, and the last
package to call the latter will do the updating in their postinst
script.

The code of the programs will look something like this:

update-initramfs-intent

  #!/bin/sh
  package=$1
  statefile=/var/lib/initramfs-tools/intendtoupdateinitrd
  echo $package  $statefile

update-initramfs-delayed

  #!/bin/sh
  package=$1
  statefile=/var/lib/initramfs-tools/intendtoupdateinitrd
  grep -v ^$package\$  $statefile  $statefile.new  mv $statefile.new 
$statefile
  if [ -s $state ] ; then # Not empty, more packages left
  :
  else # Last package, run command
  update-initramfs
  fi

When the statefile is empty, all packages who registered their intend
have executed update-initramfs-delayed, and it is time to run
update-initramfs.  I suspect this might speed up the installation
quite a bit if there are several packages adding hooks to initramfs.

The existing packages will continue to work, while packages moving to
this new approach need to add

  update-initramfs-intent packagename

to their config script, and replace update-initramfs with

  update-initramfs-intent packagename

in their postinst script.

Is there any reason why this can't be done?

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Re: Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread maximilian attems
hello Petter,

On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:37:02AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 
 When installing debian-edu-artwork-usplash, the initrd is updated
 twice, once in the usplash postinst, and once in the
 debian-edu-artwork-usplash postinst.  This seem like a waste of time
 to me.  Could it be possible to rewrite initramfs-tools to make sure
 the initrd is only generated once, at the end of the install?

agreed,
but that is an dpkg bug not having a do this last and once hook.
 
 One idea is to make two commands, update-initramfs-intent and
 update-initramfs-delayed, where the former register the packages
 intent to run update-initramfs in their config script, and the last
 package to call the latter will do the updating in their postinst
 script.

NACK,
that seems to fragile, i would really prefer to get that bug fixed
in dpkg than having such a workaround in initramfs-tools.
there are other package, who would benefit from such a hook.

regards

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Re: Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:37:02 +0200 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:


 The existing packages will continue to work, while packages moving to
 this new approach need to add
 
   update-initramfs-intent packagename
 
 to their config script, and replace update-initramfs with
 
   update-initramfs-intent packagename
 
 in their postinst script.

The later should instead be update-initramfs-delayed, right?


 - Jonas

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Re: Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Maximilian Attems]
 agreed,
 but that is an dpkg bug not having a do this last and once hook.

I know there is a long-term request for dpkg to get such support.  But
I've seen no indication that such support is approaching soon, so I
believe it is best to solve this problem for update-initramfs right
now, like the dictionaries-common solution for the dictionary
packages, instead of not doing anything while we hope for some generic
solution in dpkg.

 NACK,
 that seems to fragile, i would really prefer to get that bug fixed
 in dpkg than having such a workaround in initramfs-tools.

How is it fragile?  The only problem I see is if packages run the
-intent script without running the -delayed script.  That should be
easy to detect and fix, perhaps using a lintian check.

Perhaps there is something to learn from the dictionaries-common
package?  I have not checked how they do it, but know the dictionary
packages only ask the user once to select language, after all the
language packages are installed.

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Re: Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 12:37, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Perhaps there is something to learn from the dictionaries-common
 package?  I have not checked how they do it, but know the dictionary
 packages only ask the user once to select language, after all the
 language packages are installed.

Not true.

I'm currently seeing two questions from dictionaries-common for Ispell 
during an English desktop install:
- first time I can select between ibrittish and manual
- second time I can select between iamerican, ibrittish and manual

I'm not sure if this is a bug and, if so, where the bug is, but it does 
kind of support maks' statement that such a structure is fragile.

(Not that I'm particularly happy with the way initramfs initrds are being 
generated currently.)


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Bug#382013: installation: ernel 2.6.15 does not work after installing ttf-alee 
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Bug reassigned from package `installation' to `initramfs-tools'.

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Bug#369517: linux-image-2.6.16-1-alpha-smp: undefined scsi symbols; fails to allocate percpu data

2006-08-08 Thread Andras Horvath
 But you get a shell if you use initramfs-tools where you can check why
 it is not there.

no I don't -- not with the default initramfs (it's called initrd but the
kernel claims it's initramfs) nor with the one I built myself.

But! This one is fine:

ii  linux-image-2.6.17-1-alpha-generic   2.6.17-5  Linux
kernel 2.6.17 image on Alpha machines

but the -smp is still suffering from the same SCSI problems..

Andras


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Bug#381994: linux-image-2.6.16-17: SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C doesn't work

2006-08-08 Thread maximilian attems
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 10:54:11AM +0300, Tomi Pievilainen wrote:
 
 I have a BusLogic BT-946C scsi controller. lspci -v:
 
 :00:10.0 SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30)
 [MultiMaster 10] (rev 08)
 
 My system is installed on my scsi harddrives. Testing's and unstable's
 newest kernels fail to mount / with messages:
 
 scsi0: BusLogic BT-958 Initialized Succesfully
 sd 0:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
 sd 0:0:010: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery

please post full not working dmesg.
 
 The initialization runs multiple times, with the first one having more
 information and latter ones with just that one line. Weird thing is,
 that Etch netinst cd works just fine. I was able to install the system
 with no hitches, only after booting to the system it fails.
 
 I managed to test the newest kernel form unstable by booting Knoppix
 (which works...), chrooting and dpkg -i:ng the kernel deb, but it fails
 with the same messages ending in busybox. Sarge's 2.6.8 works too.
 
 The install cd's dmesg shows the controller initialization only once,
 it's almost like it would constantly turn on/off with the kernels that
 won't work.
 


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Re: Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:04:38 +0200 Frans Pop wrote:

 On Tuesday 08 August 2006 12:37, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  Perhaps there is something to learn from the dictionaries-common
  package?  I have not checked how they do it, but know the dictionary
  packages only ask the user once to select language, after all the
  language packages are installed.
 
 Not true.
 
 I'm currently seeing two questions from dictionaries-common for
 Ispell during an English desktop install:
 - first time I can select between ibrittish and manual
 - second time I can select between iamerican, ibrittish and manual
 
 I'm not sure if this is a bug and, if so, where the bug is, but it
 does kind of support maks' statement that such a structure is fragile.

It is no bug: The logic is to ask again when new possible better
options comes around, or if your choice disappears.

So if you were british, and had choice between american and manual,
you'd probably choose american - but when later the british option is
added it makes sense to ask again.

On the other hand, if american, british and manual is offered, you
choose british, and later the american package is removed, you won't
get asked again. (or please file a bugreport if you do ;-) ).



So back to the original request: Since initramfs-tools currently simply
enable all hooks without asking, the needed logic is actually simpler
than the (deliberate!) one of dictionaries-common.


Hope that makes sense.

 - Jonas


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Re: Bug#382013: installation: ernel 2.6.15 does not work after installing ttf-alee thunderbird-locale-fr bash apt and binutils

2006-08-08 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 382013 initramfs-tools
tags 382013 + moreinfo
thanks

On Tuesday 08 August 2006 12:36, Jean-Michel wrote:
 Yesterday evening, I'have done:
 apt-get install  ttf-alee thunderbird-locale-fr bash apt binutils
 (I had seen they were available with apt-get -s update andapt-get -s
 upgrade).

I doubt your problem has anything to do with the installation of these 
packages

 However, at rebooting the system, this morning, the system doesnot
 boot, with kernel 2.6.15.
 It stops with some panic error, related to a thing about ramfs, at
 early stage of boot.

 However, the system boots correctly with the old 2.6.12 kernel, when
 ADSL internet correction, udev, and X does not work correctly with my
 2.6.12 instalation.

Please provide the exact messages you see on the console at the time the 
installation fails. These are needed to be able to diagnose the problem 
and help you.

Do you get into a shell when the boot fails?
If you do, what is the output of:
- echo $ROOT
- cat /proc/cmdline


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Bug#382013: Bug#382016: installation: kernel 2.6.15 does not work, after upgrading some packages.

2006-08-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 12:59, Jean-Michel wrote:
 This continue the bugreport sent few minutes ago.

Please do *NOT* follow up to an existing bug report by filing a new one!
I'm forwarding this information to your original report and closing this 
new one.

 After bootin on a 2.6.12 kernel, (try to) boot with 2.6.15  makes
 Boot sequence display the following lines:
 (Not this report is approximative, and  mean some texte is not
 reported.)
 
 Net Registred protocol family 1
 Net Registred protocol family 17
 Net Registred protocol family 8
 Net Registred protocol family 20
 Using IPI shortcut mode
 ACPI wake up devices:
 SLPB PCI0 USB0  LPT1
 ACPI (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
 RAMDISK(compressed image found at lock 0
 input AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
 RAMDISK: incomplete write (-28!=32768) 8388608
 RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data
 invalid compressed format (err=1)
 VFS: Cannot open rot devices 307 or unknown block(3,7)
 Please append a correct root= boot option
 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown
 block (3,7)


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Bug#369517: linux-image-2.6.16-1-alpha-smp: undefined scsi symbols; fails to allocate percpu data

2006-08-08 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
tags 369517 +confirmed
thanks

* Andras Horvath wrote:
[...]
 but the -smp is still suffering from the same SCSI problems..

Confirmed, I'll investigate next weekend.

Norbert


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Re: Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 14:18, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 It is no bug: The logic is to ask again when new possible better
 options comes around, or if your choice disappears.

But Petter's claim was that you would not be asked twice during the same 
installation. And my comments were only meant to show that _that_ is not 
true.


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Bug#381994: linux-image-2.6.16-17: SCSI storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C doesn't work

2006-08-08 Thread Tomi Pieviläinen
 please post full not working dmesg.

Sorry about that, haven't done this before so had to check what is
available on busybox. Netcat saves the day from pen and paper.

Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 65536 bytes)
Detected 501.206 MHz processor.
Using tsc for high-res timesource
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Memory: 1031624k/1048576k available (1408k kernel code, 16424k reserved, 528k 
data, 144k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 1003.83 BogoMIPS (lpj=2007679)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff     
 
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff     
 
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff   0040  
 
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 02
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
ExtINT not setup in hardware but reported by MP table
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=0 pin2=0
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 4250k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb81, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20060127
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled
PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xb00f73b0
PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf:0x6a54, dseg 0xf
PnPBIOS: Missing SMALL_TAG_ENDDEP tag
PnPBIOS: Missing SMALL_TAG_ENDDEP tag
PnPBIOS: Missing SMALL_TAG_ENDDEP tag
PnPBIOS: Missing SMALL_TAG_ENDDEP tag
PnPBIOS: 16 nodes reported by PnP BIOS; 16 recorded by driver
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI quirk: region 0400-043f claimed by PIIX4 ACPI
PCI quirk: region 0440-044f claimed by PIIX4 SMB
PIIX4 devres B PIO at 0290-0297
Boot video device is :00:11.0
PCI-APIC IRQ transform: :00:10.0[A] - IRQ 145
PCI-APIC IRQ transform: :00:11.0[A] - IRQ 153
PCI-APIC IRQ transform: :00:13.0[A] - IRQ 161
pnp: 00:08: ioport range 0x4d0-0x4d1 has been reserved
pnp: 00:08: ioport range 0xcf8-0xcff could not be reserved
pnp: 00:09: ioport range 0x290-0x297 has been reserved
PCI: Bridge: :00:01.0
  IO window: d000-dfff
  MEM window: ff90-ff9f
  PREFETCH window: f5a0-f5af
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(1155039041.240:1): initialized
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Initializing Cryptographic API
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered (default)
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug  Play device found
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303,PNP0f13] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a NS16550A
00:0b: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:0c: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a NS16550A
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize
NET: Registered protocol family 2
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
IP route cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 262144 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536)
TCP reno registered
TCP bic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
NET: Registered protocol family 8
NET: Registered protocol family 20
Using IPI Shortcut mode
Freeing unused kernel memory: 144k freed
3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html
:00:13.0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at f081cf80. Vers LK1.1.19
SCSI subsystem initialized
scsi: * BusLogic SCSI Driver Version 2.1.16 of 18 July 2002 *
scsi: Copyright 1995-1998 by Leonard N. Zubkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
scsi0: Configuring BusLogic Model BT-958 PCI Wide Ultra SCSI Host Adapter
scsi0:   Firmware Version: 5.05R, I/O Address: 0xEFF4, IRQ Channel: 145/Level
scsi0:   PCI Bus: 0, Device: 16, Address: 0xFFAFB000, Host Adapter SCSI 

Bug#382043: Typo in latest kernel package (2.6.17.8)

2006-08-08 Thread Kristina Rothe
package: (kernel-package for 2.6.17.8, i386)
version: 2.6.17.8

Bug: in debian/pkg/image/postinst there is a typo in line 1251

instead of
if ($explicit_do_loader || (! ($postinst_hook  -x '/sbin/grub'))  {

you should have
if ($explicit_do_loader || (! ($postinst_hook  -x '/sbin/grub')))  {

..

cheers,
kristina rothe



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Bug#379209: The problem?

2006-08-08 Thread Matt Behrens
Did a brute-force grep to see what might be the issue here, came up with
this:

torgo:/lib/modules/2.6.16-2-k7# grep evbug modules.alias
alias input:b*v*p*e*-e*k*r*a*m*l*s*f*w* evbug

Commenting this line out solved my evbug problems.  This seems like an
awfully heavy alias line.



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Bug#382013: installation: ernel 2.6.15 does not work after installing ttf-alee thunderbird-locale-fr bash apt and binutils

2006-08-08 Thread Jean-Michel

Hello,

Frans Pop a écrit :

reassign 382013 initramfs-tools
tags 382013 + moreinfo
thanks
  
What additional information is usefull? cpio and initramfs-tools version 
number?:


dpkg -l | grep ramfs\|cpio
ii cpio 2.6-16 GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of
ii cramfsprogs 1.1-6 Tools for CramFs (Compressed ROM File System
ii initramfs-tools 0.69b tools for generating an initramfs
ii libklibc 1.4.8-1.1 minimal libc subset for use with initramfs



On Tuesday 08 August 2006 12:36, Jean-Michel wrote:
  

Yesterday evening, I'have done:
apt-get install  ttf-alee thunderbird-locale-fr bash apt binutils
(I had seen they were available with apt-get -s update andapt-get -s
upgrade).



I doubt your problem has anything to do with the installation of these 
packages
  

I agree with you, but what happened then?

I did not use my computer for 3 days, then
I run my usual kernel/gnome/firefox/thunderbird.

I upgrade some package as explained above.
I did not exactly remember the list, and found it (as I use sudo) in 
file /var/log/auth.log:


Aug 8 01:20:43 €€€ sudo:  : TTY=pts/2 ; PWD=€ ; USER=€ ; 
COMMAND=/usr/bin/apt-get install ttf-alee thunderbird-locale-fr bash apt 
binutils


And one night (about 9 hours) later the usual kernel does not work.
Something happened.
How to have a clue?


However, the system boots correctly with the old 2.6.12 kernel, when
ADSL internet correction, udev, and X does not work correctly with my
2.6.12 instalation.

Please provide the exact messages you see on the console at the time the 
installation fails. These are needed to be able to diagnose the problem 
and help you.
  
As you have correctly understood, I sent it in a separate bug report 
(382016) that you merged with this one (382013).

Do you get into a shell when the boot fails?
  

No, no shell.

Regards



Bug#382053: linux 2.6.16 snd-hda-intel doesn't work

2006-08-08 Thread Simon Josefsson
Package: linux-image-2.6.16-2-686-smp
Version: 2.6.16-17
Tags: patch

I have a Dell Precision M65 laptop with an Intel sound card:

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition 
Audio Controller (rev 01)

As reported on multiple sites on the Internet, e.g.,
http://www.gidnetwork.com/b-106.html :

  Kernel 2.6.16 Note: Interestingly enough, the driver for the Intel
  HD Audio in kernel 2.6.16 is broken. Everything appears to work
  fine, but alas there is absolutely no sound no matter what you do.

I have the same experience.  The driver loads fine, but no sound at
all with 2.6.16.

Upgrading to linux-image-2.6.17-1-686 version 2.6.17-5 in unstable
solves the problem for me.

There is a patch floating around:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/3/17/279

I haven't tested whether that patch by itself fixes the problem.

Thanks,
Simon


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Processed: Re: Bug#382043: Typo in latest kernel package (2.6.17.8)

2006-08-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#382043: Typo in latest kernel package (2.6.17.8)
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Warning: Unknown package 'for'
Warning: Unknown package '2.6.17.8'
Warning: Unknown package 'i386'
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Processed: Re: Bug#382013: Bug#382016: installation: kernel 2.6.15 does not work, after upgrading some packages.

2006-08-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#382016: installation: kernel 2.6.15 does not work, after upgrading some 
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Bug#382013: installation: ernel 2.6.15 does not work after installing ttf-alee thunderbird-locale-fr bash apt and binutils

2006-08-08 Thread maximilian attems
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 03:58:44PM +0200, Jean-Michel wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Frans Pop a écrit :
 reassign 382013 initramfs-tools
 tags 382013 + moreinfo
 thanks
   
 What additional information is usefull? cpio and initramfs-tools version 
 number?:

can you please post the full error you are seeing on on working boot?

thanks

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Bug#382013: Bug#382016: installation: kernel 2.6.15 does not work, after upgrading some packages.

2006-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:35:43 +0200 maximilian attems wrote:

 reassign 382016 initrd-tools

 ah there is the requested info sorry for not having connected your
 mails. that is an initrd-tools failure no idea why the initrd.img
 for 2.6.15 was generated with initrd-tools.
 
 yes initrd-tools is known _broken_. you'd better use initramfs-tools

Maximilian:

Are you certain this is the user explicitly choosing to use a broken
ramdisk generator? If not then please do not so hastily reassign -
especially since that tool is expected to die soon, and with it all
bugreports filed against (or reassigned to) it.


Jean-Michel:

Could you please provide the content of /etc/kernel-img.conf - and also
tell us if you've run some custom ramdisk-building scripts yourself, in
addition to the stuff done automatically by the kernel image postinst
routines?

Also, do you have lilo installed? Do you use it, or do you use GRUB or
another bootloader?


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Re: Avoid running update-initramfs more than once during installation

2006-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:02:54 +0200 Frans Pop wrote:

 On Tuesday 08 August 2006 14:18, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
  It is no bug: The logic is to ask again when new possible better
  options comes around, or if your choice disappears.
 
 But Petter's claim was that you would not be asked twice during the
 same installation. And my comments were only meant to show that
 _that_ is not true.

Point taken!


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Re: Patch for 2.6.17 kernel

2006-08-08 Thread maximilian attems
hello,

On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:20:26AM -0700, Allyn, Mark A wrote:
 Hello:
 
 I have a patch for the 2.6.17 kernel sources that I got from the
 unstable 
 release; this patch is for the Intel e1000 network device driver. 
 The source for this patch is on the upstream source for the e1000 driver
 
 at e1000.sourceforge.net. 
 
 This is a patch of about 15000 lines. 

merge it upstream,
Debian uses mostly vanilla kernel beside arch or build fixes.
- http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines

of course fixes through the stable tree propagate too.
 
 What is the best way for me to send this? Do I send it as an attachment?
 
 Or can I simply point to the new source at e1000.sourceforge.net?
 
 Thank you
 
 Mark Allyn

we will most probably release with 2.6.18 so if you have merged your
patches there, everything is fine. please take care to feed upstream
in time so that your fixes lands.

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initramfs modifications HOWTO?

2006-08-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi,

sorry if I am posting this into wrong NG (or list, if you prefer), please,
kick me in the right direction. I am not a developer, but while tinkering
with suspend2 patch with my home brewn kernel (currently 2.6.18-rc4), after
studying HACKING document, I tried to include into initramfs a tiny script
which would basically just

echo  /proc/suspend2/do_resume

I tried to create two attached scripts and put them
into /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/suspend2
and /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-premount/suspend2 respectively, but
when investigating created inird.img I haven't found any results there (I
would suspect directory scripts is the right place to look for them,
right?).

Can anybody kick me into right direction (either how to do it, or in which
other NG/list I should ask), please?

Thanks in advance,

Matěj
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Re: initramfs modifications HOWTO?

2006-08-08 Thread maximilian attems
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 02:33:46PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 sorry if I am posting this into wrong NG (or list, if you prefer), please,
 kick me in the right direction. I am not a developer, but while tinkering
 with suspend2 patch with my home brewn kernel (currently 2.6.18-rc4), after
 studying HACKING document, I tried to include into initramfs a tiny script
 which would basically just
 
 echo  /proc/suspend2/do_resume
 
 I tried to create two attached scripts and put them
 into /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/suspend2
 and /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-premount/suspend2 respectively, but
 when investigating created inird.img I haven't found any results there (I
 would suspect directory scripts is the right place to look for them,
 right?).
 
 Can anybody kick me into right direction (either how to do it, or in which
 other NG/list I should ask), please?

sure checkout man initramfs-tools. :)
it has examples for hook and boot scripts.
if you have more precise questions feel free to ask.
also don't hesitate to post your scripts
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Mat??j
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Bug#382103: Bad integration with make-kpkg.

2006-08-08 Thread Александр Николаевич Головко
Package: linux-patch-debian-2.6.16
Version: 2.6.16-17

/usr/src/kernel-patches/all/2.6.16/apply/debian script doesn't check
KPKG_SUBARCH variable. When i compile xen3 kernel image i must manually
apply script with -a i386 -s xen flags instead of make-kpkg --arch
i386 --subarch xen ...


make-kpkg output:

% tar xjf linux-2.6.16.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src
% cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.16
% make-kpkg --arch i386 --subarch xen --added-patches debian --config
menuconfig --initrd --append_to_version -1-xen --revision 1
kernel_image exec make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/ruleset/minimal.mk
debian DEBIAN_REVISION=1  APPEND_TO_VERSION=-1-xen  KPKG_ARCH=i386
KPKG_SUBARCH=xen  KPKG_SELECTED_PATCHES=debian  INITRD=YES
Makefile:476: .config: No such file or directory Makefile:476: .config:
No such file or directory Makefile:476: .config: No such file or
directory Makefile:476: .config: No such file or directory
Makefile:476: .config: No such file or directory == making target
minimal_debian [new prereqs: ]== This is kernel package version .
test -d debian || mkdir debian test ! -e stamp-building || rm -f
stamp-building test -f debian/control || sed -e
's/=V/2.6.16-1-xen/g'\ -e 's/=D/1/g' -e 's/=A/i386/g'  \
-e 's/=SA//g'   -e 's/=L/ /g' \
-e 's/=I//g'\
-e 's/=CV/2.6/g'   \
-e 's/=M/Unknown Kernel Package Maintainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/g'
\ -e 's/=ST/linux/g'  -e 's/=B/i386/g'
\ /usr/share/kernel-package/Control  debian/control test -f
debian/changelog ||  sed -e 's/=V/2.6.16-1-xen/g' \ -e
's/=D/1/g'-e 's/=A/i386/g'   \ -e 's/=ST/linux/g' -e
's/=B/i386/g' \ -e 's/=M/Unknown Kernel Package Maintainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/g'
\ /usr/share/kernel-package/changelog  debian/changelog install -p -m
755 /usr/share/kernel-package/rules debian/rules for file in ChangeLog
Control  Control.bin86 config templates.in rules;
do  \ cp
-f  /usr/share/kernel-package/$file ./debian/;
\ done for dir  in Config docs examples ruleset scripts pkg po;
do  \ cp
-af /usr/share/kernel-package/$dir  ./debian/;
\ done test -d ./debian/stamps || mkdir debian/stamps exec
debian/rules  DEBIAN_REVISION=1  APPEND_TO_VERSION=-1-xen
KPKG_ARCH=i386  CONFIG_TARGET=menuconfig  KPKG_SUBARCH=xen
KPKG_SELECTED_PATCHES=debian  INITRD=YES  kernel_image
Makefile:476: .config: No such file or directory Makefile:476: .config:
No such file or directory Makefile:476: .config: No such file or
directory Makefile:476: .config: No such file or directory
Makefile:476: .config: No such file or directory == making
target .config [new prereqs: Makefile]==

test -f .config || test ! -f .config.save || \
cp -pf .config.save .config
test -f .config || test ! -f ./debian/config || \
cp -pf ./debian/config .config
test -f .config || test ! -f ./debian/config || \
cp -pf ./debian/config  .config

== making target CONFIG-common [new prereqs: testdir]==

== making target debian/stamp-conf [new prereqs: ]==
# work around idiocy in recent kernel versions
test ! -e scripts/package/builddeb || \
mv -f scripts/package/builddeb scripts/package/builddeb.dist
test ! -e scripts/package/Makefile || \
(mv -f scripts/package/Makefile
scripts/package/Makefile.dist  \ (echo # Dummy file ; echo help:)
  scripts/package/Makefile) test -d debian || mkdir ./debian
test ! -e stamp-building || rm -f stamp-building
test ! -f ./debian || test -f stamp-debian || test -f debian/official
|| \ (rm -rf ./debian  mkdir ./debian)
test ! -f applied_patches || rm -f applied_patches
for patch in /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/2.6.16/apply/debian ;
do\ if test -x  $patch; then\
  if $patch; then \
  echo Patch $patch processed fine; \
  echo $patch  applied_patches;   \
  else \
   echo Patch $patch  failed.;  \
   echo Hit return to Continue;  \
   read ans;   \
  fi;  \
  fi;  \
done
Warning: No version.Debian file, assuming pristine Linux 2.6.16
Warning: Can't find series file for 2
Warning: Can't find series file for 3
Warning: Can't find series file for 5
Warning: Can't find series file for 11
Warning: Can't find series file for 16
  (+) OKbuslogic-pci-id-table.patch
  (+) OKfbdev-radeon-noaccel.patch
  (+) OKfs-asfs-2.patch
  (+) OKmodular-ide-pnp.patch
  (+) OKversion.patch
  (+) OKia64-irq-affinity-upfix.patch
  (+) OKpowerpc-mkvmlinuz-support.patch
  (+) OK 

Bug#382013: Bug#382016: installation: kernel 2.6.15 does not work, after upgrading some packages.

2006-08-08 Thread Jean-Michel

The problem seams to have disappeared; I did not understand why.

Between the moment when the problem was existing and now.

I have downloaded image and header of kernel 2.6.12 (using apt-get from
kernel 2.6.12).
Modify /etc/lilo.conf and runned lilo, to active kernel 2.6.16.
Patched and compiled internet ADSL eagle-usb module/package for kernel
2.6.16.
Runt thunderbird/firefox, under gnome, on kernel 2.6.16, once internet
ADSL eagle-usb was working.

Kernel 2.6.16 was working, and now I discovered 2.6.15 works again. ;-)
But it does not explain me why it was not working :-(

According to /var/log/auth.log, I did:
Aug 8 12:38:05 €€€ sudo: €€€ : TTY=tty3 ; PWD=€€€ ; USER=€€€ ;
COMMAND=/usr/bin/apt-get install grub
(I do not remember why.)

Aug 8 13:19:54 €€€ sudo: €€€ : TTY=tty2 ; PWD=€€€ ; USER=€€€ ;
COMMAND=/usr/bin/apt-get install linux-image-2.6.16-2-686

It does not appear but I also installed headers, at one time (required
to compile eagle-usb).

Aug 8 13:28:18 €€€ login[2555]: (pam_unix) session opened for user root
by (uid=0)
Aug 8 13:28:19 €€€ login[2586]: ROOT LOGIN on 'tty1'
Aug 8 13:28:32 €€€ sudo: €€€ : TTY=tty1 ; PWD=€€€ ; USER=€€€ ;
COMMAND=/usr/bin/vim /etc/lilo.conf

It does not appear in the log, but I ran lilo, by there.

I also used module-assistant command to compile eagle-usb under 2.6.16
module-assistant prepare
module-assistant get eagle-usb
module-assistant build eagle-usb


And this one was for fun:
Aug 8 16:25:07 €€€ sudo: €€€ : TTY=pts/3 ; PWD=€€€ ; USER=€€€ ;
COMMAND=/usr/bin/apt-get install python.*2.5


Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :

Jean-Michel:
Could you please provide the content of /etc/kernel-img.conf -

do_symlinks = yes
relative_links = yes
do_bootloader = no
do_bootfloppy = no
do_initrd = yes
link_in_boot = no
postinst_hook = /sbin/update-grub
postrm_hook = /sbin/update-grub


 and also
tell us if you've run some custom ramdisk-building scripts yourself, in
addition to the stuff done automatically by the kernel image postinst
routines?
  

I do not know what is a«custom ramdisk-building scripts».
I just know I had had an issue when I switched from 2.6.12 to 2.6.15
some months ago, and I believe to remember that some line related to
*ram* was to be added or modified in some configuration file.

Also, do you have lilo installed? Do you use it, or do you use GRUB or
another bootloader?
  

Yes, I use lilo. Grub is also installed.
When I installed kernel 2.6.16 (today), grub configuration file was
automatically updated, but I had to update (by hand) /etc/lilo.conf, and
then run lilo (as root).
I use lilo, because I know how to add a kernel and modify option in lilo.
I do not use grub, because I do not know grub configuration, and lilo
works fine till now.

dpkg -l |grep lilo\|grub
ii grub 0.97-13 GRand Unified Bootloader
ii lilo 22.6.1-7 LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can loa
ii lilo-doc 22.6.1-7 Documentation for LILO (LInux LOader)


I hope the information I give you can help Debian project.
Regards.





Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   # Our priorities are our users and free software

   We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software community.
   We will place their interests first in our priorities. We will support the
   needs of our users for operation in many different kinds of computing
   environments. We will not object to non-free works that are intended to be
   used on Debian systems, or attempt to charge a fee to people who create or
   use such works. We will allow others to create distributions containing both
   the Debian system and other works, without any fee from us. In furtherance
   of these goals, we will provide an integrated system of high-quality
   materials with no legal restrictions that would prevent such uses of the
   system.

Nothing here says that when we have no way to support a user's task
with free software, we will go ahead and ship nonfree software to do
this.



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Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-08 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well, it reads to me that we won't screw our users without second
 thought like some here are proposing.

In my opinion, we have been screwing our users for years by lying to
them about whether their software was free.  We would even say things
like hardware such-and-such is supportable with free software and
then ship them a non-free driver.

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Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Crilly
On 08/08/06 04:49:33PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Well, it reads to me that we won't screw our users without second
  thought like some here are proposing.
 
 In my opinion, we have been screwing our users for years by lying to
 them about whether their software was free.  We would even say things
 like hardware such-and-such is supportable with free software and
 then ship them a non-free driver.
 

I'm sure this has been suggested/covered before, but what's wrong with just
sticking those drivers in non-free and giving the user a choice during
installation? Sure, it'll screw the users that won't have Internet access
during the installation, but as long as it's possible to make custom
installation discs that'll probably take care of itself.

Jim.


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Bug#380534: Bug resolved

2006-08-08 Thread Chris O'Callaghan
This bug seems to have been resolved in a recent update of this package.

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