Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 07:24, Steve Langasek wrote: So is updating linux-2.6 in testing *before* updating grub-installer sufficient? Yes, that is how I understand it from Otavio. Therefore, no objections from d-i POV. pgp8o7FSKfkSn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:40:59AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 23 August 2006 07:24, Steve Langasek wrote: So is updating linux-2.6 in testing *before* updating grub-installer sufficient? Yes, that is how I understand it from Otavio. Therefore, no objections from d-i POV. And therefore none from me. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:58:20PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:12:43 -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - grub-installer would have a change to don't use full paths in kernel-img.conf entries _but_ this one need to migrate to etch together with linux-2.6 2.6.17-6 OR new installations will be broken. Could you please expand on this last point? What does together mean -- both at the same time, or one before the other (which one?)? Why does a kernel-img.conf without a full path break older kernels? Because older kernels checked to see if the postinst_hook script was executable -- and did not do a path search. So is updating linux-2.6 in testing *before* updating grub-installer sufficient? Yes. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:40:59AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 23 August 2006 07:24, Steve Langasek wrote: So is updating linux-2.6 in testing *before* updating grub-installer sufficient? Yes, that is how I understand it from Otavio. Therefore, no objections from d-i POV. And therefore none from me. Ok, will do that ASAP. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:12:43 -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - grub-installer would have a change to don't use full paths in kernel-img.conf entries _but_ this one need to migrate to etch together with linux-2.6 2.6.17-6 OR new installations will be broken. Could you please expand on this last point? What does together mean -- both at the same time, or one before the other (which one?)? Why does a kernel-img.conf without a full path break older kernels? Because older kernels checked to see if the postinst_hook script was executable -- and did not do a path search. Other than this, the plan sounds ok. manoj -- Seen on a button at an SF Convention: Veteran of the Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force. 1990-1951. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:58:20PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:12:43 -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - grub-installer would have a change to don't use full paths in kernel-img.conf entries _but_ this one need to migrate to etch together with linux-2.6 2.6.17-6 OR new installations will be broken. Could you please expand on this last point? What does together mean -- both at the same time, or one before the other (which one?)? Why does a kernel-img.conf without a full path break older kernels? Because older kernels checked to see if the postinst_hook script was executable -- and did not do a path search. So is updating linux-2.6 in testing *before* updating grub-installer sufficient? Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
Hi Otavio, On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 06:10:15PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: For this to happen, my transition plan is described bellow: - A new grub package would be uploaded to unstable having a group of wrappers that will call /usr/sbin utilities but warn the user to edit his/her /etc/kernel-img.conf. That keeps backward compatibility with previous kernels and will be in place until Etch is released, - A NEWS.Debian entry describing the change in grub would be add too, - grub-installer would have a change to don't use full paths in kernel-img.conf entries _but_ this one need to migrate to etch together with linux-2.6 2.6.17-6 OR new installations will be broken. Could you please expand on this last point? What does together mean -- both at the same time, or one before the other (which one?)? Why does a kernel-img.conf without a full path break older kernels? Other than this, the plan sounds ok. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You don't need grub-install to install grub Not according to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345931;msg=60. But I do think that lib/grub, sbin/grub-install and so on should move to /usr, or update-grub should be rewritten to function without /usr being mounted. This is a different issue. grub shell currently doesn't check if image files are of same version of grub itself so the user need to know that if he upgraded the grub and wish to use the shell to install it he needs to copy the new images by himself. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 06:10:15PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: Hello, I plan to upload a group of changes to grub and grub-installer to move update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin/. For this to happen, my transition plan is described bellow: - A new grub package would be uploaded to unstable having a group of wrappers that will call /usr/sbin utilities but warn the user to edit his/her /etc/kernel-img.conf. That keeps backward compatibility with previous kernels and will be in place until Etch is released, - A NEWS.Debian entry describing the change in grub would be add too, - grub-installer would have a change to don't use full paths in kernel-img.conf entries _but_ this one need to migrate to etch together with linux-2.6 2.6.17-6 OR new installations will be broken. RM team, is ok to me go forward with it? I think the above misses the _why_ The announce only mentions the new, the proposed, location. I'm happy with the removal of the full paths, but not happy with /usr/sbin Please allow to grub install _without_ the filesystem _/usr mounted_. So either move it to /bin or /sbin, both are mounted when in single user mode (as mostly used for recovery) Cheers Geert Stappers signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RM team, is ok to me go forward with it? I think the above misses the _why_ The announce only mentions the new, the proposed, location. I'm happy with the removal of the full paths, but not happy with /usr/sbin Please allow to grub install _without_ the filesystem _/usr mounted_. So either move it to /bin or /sbin, both are mounted when in single user mode (as mostly used for recovery) You don't need grub-install to install grub and usually, when something gets wrong, you use the grub console to workaround the problem. grub-install and update-grub uses binaries provided by /usr/bin and won't work anyway. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Move of update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin
Hello, I plan to upload a group of changes to grub and grub-installer to move update-grub and grub-install to /usr/sbin/. For this to happen, my transition plan is described bellow: - A new grub package would be uploaded to unstable having a group of wrappers that will call /usr/sbin utilities but warn the user to edit his/her /etc/kernel-img.conf. That keeps backward compatibility with previous kernels and will be in place until Etch is released, - A NEWS.Debian entry describing the change in grub would be add too, - grub-installer would have a change to don't use full paths in kernel-img.conf entries _but_ this one need to migrate to etch together with linux-2.6 2.6.17-6 OR new installations will be broken. RM team, is ok to me go forward with it? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
