Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

2012-07-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (25/06/2012):
  - 1st d-i upload less than 12 hours from now.
  - udeb freeze.

Done.

  - 2nd upload when the kernel is ready, hopefully some time next week.

I have to review a few packages we might want to get into testing soon,
that should happen during this weekend.

As for the kernel, linux can't migrate on its own, packages would become
uninstallable. linux-latest is needed but is missing its s390 build
(hence the poke on IRC and the extra Cc now).

I've checked with force/force-hint that there shouldn't be any other
issues once linux-latest is a candidate.

Once the kernel is in testing and other udebs unblocked, there should be
a new debian-installer upload early next week, which might become beta1.

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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

2012-06-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 05:07:50PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On 26.06.2012 16:35, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (25/06/2012):
  - udeb freeze.
 
 debian-release, please put that back into place. Thanks already!
 
 Done.
 
 As discussed, I've enabled all of the blocks, including those in the
 can be handled by britney category.  If people moan, I'll know
 where to point them. ;-)
 
 Regards,
 
 Adam
 
So presumably there will be no testing migration of linux until after
d-i beta 1?  I'm just wondering whether it's worth uploading right now
to fix the sparc FTBFS or whether this should be left until we have
other substantial changes.

Ben.

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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

2012-06-27 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 17:59 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 05:07:50PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
  On 26.06.2012 16:35, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (25/06/2012):
   - udeb freeze.
  
  debian-release, please put that back into place. Thanks already!
  
  Done.
  
  As discussed, I've enabled all of the blocks, including those in the
  can be handled by britney category.  If people moan, I'll know
  where to point them. ;-)
[...]
 So presumably there will be no testing migration of linux until after
 d-i beta 1?  I'm just wondering whether it's worth uploading right now
 to fix the sparc FTBFS or whether this should be left until we have
 other substantial changes.

[mentioned on IRC, but for the record] The grand plan[tm] for beta1
includes a kernel migration, so having it build everywhere soon would be
appreciated :-)

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

2012-06-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (25/06/2012):
 TL;DR:
  - 1st d-i upload less than 12 hours from now.

debian-installer was uploaded earlier today.

  - udeb freeze.

debian-release, please put that back into place. Thanks already!

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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

2012-06-26 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 26.06.2012 16:35, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (25/06/2012):

 - udeb freeze.


debian-release, please put that back into place. Thanks already!


Done.

As discussed, I've enabled all of the blocks, including those in the 
can be handled by britney category.  If people moan, I'll know where 
to point them. ;-)


Regards,

Adam


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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

2012-06-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 23:54:18 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

 Questions:
  A. if we build a debian-installer package against the old linux kernel
 ABI, and then images with that debian-installer, will the installer
 be able to install a kernel with the old ABI to begin with, *and* a
 kernel with the new ABI in a few days when it reaches testing? Or
 will the images be broken when that happens? (added debian-kernel to
 Cc accordingly).
 
The netboot and businesscard at least will be broken, AIUI, because they
get udebs from the network and those need to match the d-i kernel.  OTOH
they'll probably be broken by non-ABI-changing kernel changes anyway, so
maybe that doesn't matter.  For the other images I don't believe there
should be a problem, as they already include the appropriate module
udebs and install the final kernel through the linux-image-foo
metapackages.

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: Preparation for d-i beta 1

2012-06-25 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org (25/06/2012):
  Questions:
   A. if we build a debian-installer package against the old linux kernel
  ABI, and then images with that debian-installer, will the installer
  be able to install a kernel with the old ABI to begin with, *and* a
  kernel with the new ABI in a few days when it reaches testing? Or
  will the images be broken when that happens? (added debian-kernel to
  Cc accordingly).
  
 The netboot and businesscard at least will be broken, AIUI, because they
 get udebs from the network and those need to match the d-i kernel.  OTOH
 they'll probably be broken by non-ABI-changing kernel changes anyway, so
 maybe that doesn't matter.  For the other images I don't believe there
 should be a problem, as they already include the appropriate module
 udebs and install the final kernel through the linux-image-foo
 metapackages.

Thanks for your feedback.

Here's my current plan:
 - build/upload debian-installer after tonight's britney and following
   dinstall runs.
 - ask the release team to freeze all udeb-producing packages, so that
   we can retain control over what goes in from this point on.
 - check for failures on the buildds, fix them.
 - wait for the kernel to be ready/to migrate to testing.
 - upload a new debian-installer pulling that kernel's udebs.
 - coordinate with debian-cd for images.
 - call for tests.
 - do some steps again if there are big failures.
 - release beta 1 otherwise.

We still need to arrange something about the release announce. Any
takers?

TL;DR:
 - 1st d-i upload less than 12 hours from now.
 - udeb freeze.
 - 2nd upload when the kernel is ready, hopefully some time next week.

Mraw,
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