Re: alsa-firmware in firmware-linux-non-free package

2011-02-04 Thread Jaromír Mikeš
From: David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com

 Actually, a closer look shows that this in fact did not make it into Maverick 
 (10.10), 
 but the actual work has been done and it seems like it will show up in Natty 
 (11.04).
 Sorry for the confusion.

Hello there,

I just noticed that Natty (11.04) Alpha 2 was released and that remind me this 
issue.
I've checked linux-firmware_1.46_all.deb from Natty repo and it still not 
contain missing firmware from alsa-firmware package.

Is anything new with this in Ubuntu/Debian?

Kind regards

mira



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Re: alsa-firmware in firmware-linux-non-free package

2010-10-19 Thread David Henningsson

On 2010-10-19 00:37, Ben Hutchings wrote:

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 23:43 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:

Sorry for double posting I forgot CC pkg-alsa-devel mailing list

Hi,

I recently started discussion on pkg-alsa-devel mailing list that it would be
nice have alsa-firmware package in Debian like other distro have (Ubuntu,
64Studio, Fedora, Arch linux).

ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/firmware/alsa-firmware-1.0.23.tar.bz2

This package bringing bunch of firmware for professional sound cards like RME's
multiface and digiface
and many others. (emu, digigram, echoaudio etc.)
These firmwares are loaded by programs like hdsploader, vxloader and others
which are part of alsa-firmware-loaders package, which is already in debian.
In discussion was noted that the upcoming Ubuntu 10.10 has merged alsa-firmware
into linux-firmware.
The question is, Should be alsa-firmware shipped in same way in Debian?

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=cndougla/linux-firmware.git;a=log;h=maverick


Actually, a closer look shows that this in fact did not make it into 
Maverick (10.10), but the actual work has been done and it seems like it 
will show up in Natty (11.04). Sorry for the confusion.




Thank you for your comments/suggestions


Debian's firmware-linux-nonfree is specifically for firmware images that
used to be embedded in drivers in our kernel image packages.  We
generate a number of other binary packages from its source package,
firmware-nonfree, and could add one or more containing the sound card
firmware.

However I think these firmware images should be added to the
linux-firmware.git repository first, as that is the 'upstream' used as a
base for most distributions that provide firmware packages.


Definitely. And so I offer the same assistance to David Woodhouse as I 
do to you in Debian - willingness to answer questions etc, to make this 
happen. You are welcome to help me remind him to actually pick these 
things up.


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Re: alsa-firmware in firmware-linux-non-free package

2010-10-19 Thread Jaromír Mikeš
 Od: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk
 On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 23:43 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:

  The question is, Should be alsa-firmware shipped in same way in Debian?

 Debian's firmware-linux-nonfree is specifically for firmware images that
 used to be embedded in drivers in our kernel image packages.  We
 generate a number of other binary packages from its source package,
 firmware-nonfree, and could add one or more containing the sound card
 firmware.

 However I think these firmware images should be added to the
 linux-firmware.git repository first, as that is the 'upstream' used as a
 base for most distributions that provide firmware packages.

Hi Ben,

thank you for your answer. Can I take it as it is on your TODO list now?
Or is there something more what should be done?
Please let me know I am ready to get involved if needed.

best regards

mira


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Re: alsa-firmware in firmware-linux-non-free package

2010-10-19 Thread David Henningsson

On 2010-10-19 12:31, David Woodhouse wrote:

On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 10:10 +0100, David Henningsson wrote:

However I think these firmware images should be added to the
linux-firmware.git repository first, as that is the 'upstream' used as a
base for most distributions that provide firmware packages.


Definitely. And so I offer the same assistance to David Woodhouse as I
do to you in Debian - willingness to answer questions etc, to make this
happen. You are welcome to help me remind him to actually pick these
things up.


Where do I pick them up from? The git tree referenced above seems to add
to a 'WHENCE.ubuntu' file instead of the main WHENCE file.


Oh. The idea was to keep the firmwares you haven't picked up in 
WHENCE.ubuntu, in order to make merging easier for us during that 
transition period. Just making a commit that puts all information that 
is now in WHENCE.ubuntu into WHENCE is not hard, so let me know if you 
need help with that.



I'm also thinking of moving to something based on
http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat and adding extra
metadata about the earliest/latest kernels for which any given firmware
file is relevant, as well as a simple 'build' system.


Okay. I don't have much opinion on that matter, but if you decide to do 
so, I'm certain that we will follow your conventions for future 
additions and contributions to linux-firmware.


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Re: alsa-firmware in firmware-linux-non-free package

2010-10-19 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 10:10 +0100, David Henningsson wrote:
  However I think these firmware images should be added to the
  linux-firmware.git repository first, as that is the 'upstream' used as a
  base for most distributions that provide firmware packages.
 
 Definitely. And so I offer the same assistance to David Woodhouse as I 
 do to you in Debian - willingness to answer questions etc, to make this 
 happen. You are welcome to help me remind him to actually pick these 
 things up.

Where do I pick them up from? The git tree referenced above seems to add
to a 'WHENCE.ubuntu' file instead of the main WHENCE file.

I'm also thinking of moving to something based on
http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat and adding extra
metadata about the earliest/latest kernels for which any given firmware
file is relevant, as well as a simple 'build' system.

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Re: alsa-firmware in firmware-linux-non-free package

2010-10-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 23:43 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
 Sorry for double posting I forgot CC pkg-alsa-devel mailing list
 
 Hi,
  
 I recently started discussion on pkg-alsa-devel mailing list that it would be
 nice have alsa-firmware package in Debian like other distro have (Ubuntu,
 64Studio, Fedora, Arch linux).
  
 ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/firmware/alsa-firmware-1.0.23.tar.bz2
  
 This package bringing bunch of firmware for professional sound cards like 
 RME's
 multiface and digiface
 and many others. (emu, digigram, echoaudio etc.)
 These firmwares are loaded by programs like hdsploader, vxloader and others
 which are part of alsa-firmware-loaders package, which is already in debian.
 In discussion was noted that the upcoming Ubuntu 10.10 has merged 
 alsa-firmware
 into linux-firmware.
 The question is, Should be alsa-firmware shipped in same way in Debian?
  
 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=cndougla/linux-firmware.git;a=log;h=maverick
  
 Thank you for your comments/suggestions

Debian's firmware-linux-nonfree is specifically for firmware images that
used to be embedded in drivers in our kernel image packages.  We
generate a number of other binary packages from its source package,
firmware-nonfree, and could add one or more containing the sound card
firmware.

However I think these firmware images should be added to the
linux-firmware.git repository first, as that is the 'upstream' used as a
base for most distributions that provide firmware packages.

Ben.

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