Re: Is the GPL free?

1999-10-22 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 09:27:41PM -0200, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
 (from http://www.debian.org/social_contract)
 
 # 3.Derived Works
 #
 #  The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them
 #  to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original
 #  software.

Debian has not required documentation and other text documents to allow
modifiaction to be in main. 

David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Is the GPL free?

1999-10-22 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 06:58:26PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 09:27:41PM -0200, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
  (from http://www.debian.org/social_contract)
  
  # 3.Derived Works
  #
  #  The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow 
  them
  #  to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original
  #  software.
 
 Debian has not required documentation and other text documents to allow
 modifiaction to be in main. 

Then it should be stated clearly in the DFSG.

 David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Is the GPL free?

1999-10-22 Thread William T Wilson
On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:

 # 3.Derived Works
 #
 #  The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them
 #  to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original
 #  software.
 
 Something odd is going on. GPL'ed programs are free (according to the DFSG),
 but the GPL itself is not?

The freeness of the GPL itself is irrelevant.  The FSF does not want
people messing with the GPL and making it broken in some way and calling
it the GPL.  This will confuse licensees and make the FSF look bad.

As the GPL itself is not software it does not need to fall under the DFSG.
In other words, the DFSG only requires that the license allow derived
works of the software it covers.  It doesn't require that the license
allow derived works of itself.

Not that the FSF seems to care, as the Artistic license claims to be a
kindler, gentler version of the GPL, and nobody has objected (presumably
because the Artistic license doesn't claim to *be* the GPL).


Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-10-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 02:38:21AM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
 Just curious, is Corel in a position to buy TT or Qt outright?

If they did that, Qt would become BSDish licensed.  This would make hte
XFree people happy.  ;  It would also SOLVE the license problem.  It
would however destroy the ability to reasonably profit from Qt, something
simply GPLing it wouldn't do.

I wouldn't hold my breath regarding convincing someone at Troll Tech that
they should actually GPL it or even try to make the current license GPL
compatible.

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