Re: crypto in gs crept in :(

2002-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 02:05:42AM +0100, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
 Could please somebody knowing look at #131973? Ghostscript includes crypto
 and it seems this is subject to those new export rules. Artifex (the
 upstream) seems to have filed the neccessary paperwork but I don't have
 any idea what to do about this in Debian. 
 
 It does not make much sense to remove the crypto stuff and reupload given
 that crypto is now allowed into main, right?

Shouldn't be a problem; everything in main has been notified for.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Preprints/Reprints of Academic Papers in Packages

2002-03-29 Thread Dylan Thurston
On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, C.M. Connelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Many packages contain preprints or reprints of academic papers as
 part of their documentation.  In many cases, there is no
 ``source'' available for these documents -- they are distributed
 as PostScript or PDF files.
  ...
 My feeling is that as ``historical documents'' -- frozen documents
 describing some early state or underlayment of the software, and
 not day-to-day documentation -- we shouldn't worry that much about
 not having the source for these documents.  Others may disagree,
 believing that we need to have source for everything that we
 distribute.

I originally raised this issue wrt the file
/usr/share/doc/texmf/metapost/base/mpman.ps.gz in the tetex-doc package.
This is a preprint distributed by Bell Labs, and so is an academic
preprint, but the abstract explains

   This document serves as an introductory user's manual.

AFAICT, this is the principal reference manual for MetaPost.  If one
wanted to modify the MetaPost language in some way, you would probably
also want to modify this manual.

I think it is definitely in Debian's interest to have the source for this
academic paper.

I'm about to go ask John Hobby if he's willing to release the source,
but in general I think Debian should insist on source, even for academic
papers.

Note that one of the largest archives of academic papers on the web,
http://arxiv.org, insists on TeX source.  From
http://arxiv.org/help/faq/whytex.html:

 Why submit the TeX source?
 
 1. TeX has many advantages that make it ideal as a format for the archives:
 It is plain ASCII, it is compact, it is freely available for all
 platforms, it produces extremely high-quality output, and it retains
 contextual information.
 
 (It is thus more likely to be a good source from which to generate newer
 formats, e.g. MathML [namely HTML, or more specifically XML, which handles
 mathematics correctly -- note that the MathML people plan a LaTeX to MathML
 translator, but dvi/ps/pdf lack the necessary document structuring concepts].
 Possession of the source thus provides many additional options for future
 document migrations (none of us really expect dvi, ps, pdf, etc., to be the
 final word).

These are good reasons for wanting source in general, independent of any need
for modification.

Best,
Dylan Thurston


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