Re: DFSG#10 [was: Re: Draft Debian-legal summary of the LGPL]
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 02:17:39PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 01:31:11PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > "cause the modified files to carry prominent notices"; it doesn't say "the > > modified files or loosely associated metadata". > > Nit: "carry" and "contain" are not the same word. > > Furthermore, "carry" has literally dozens of definitions -- none of > which are specific to "files" but many of which have some relevance > through analogy or metaphor. Hmm, I would have objected to your position, but then I thought of some of the usages of "carry", such as: * I am carrying some parasites. * He is carrying a virus. Given the metaphorical uses of "parasite" and "virus" we've seen in the Free Software community, this should be ample fodder for further flamewars. :) But more seriously, you do raise an interesting point. -- G. Branden Robinson|Religion is regarded by the common Debian GNU/Linux |people as true, by the wise as [EMAIL PROTECTED] |false, and by the rulers as useful. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Lucius Annaeus Seneca signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:56:09AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > I'm just curious, because it is legal in Poland, but only for > > > > compatibility reasons, and I guess this situation fits this. > > > > > > That's because Poland is part of the EU now, where it is legal. > > > > No. It was legal also before access to EU. > > Of course it was; Poland wouldn't have been allowed in the EU if they > didn't implement that in their laws first. Since when has this been > legal in Poland? Seems it is legal since 1994. At least that's the time when new copyright law was introduced. However I suppose it was legal also before. Just consider what situation was in Poland (and other communist countries in general) before ~1990. Then reverse-engineering was the only way to figure out how it is done in this bad-capitalistic part of the world ;) regards fEnIo -- _ Bartosz Fenski | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 | IRC:fEnIo _|_|_ 32-050 Skawina - Glowackiego 3/15 - w. malopolskie - Polska (0 0) phone:+48602383548 | Slackware - the weakest link ooO--(_)--Ooo http://skawina.eu.org | JID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | RLU:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:41:09AM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:20:47AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > May I ask you in which country reverse-engineering for compatibility is > > > forbidden? > > > > > > I'm just curious, because it is legal in Poland, but only for > > > compatibility reasons, and I guess this situation fits this. > > > > That's because Poland is part of the EU now, where it is legal. > > No. It was legal also before access to EU. Of course it was; Poland wouldn't have been allowed in the EU if they didn't implement that in their laws first. Since when has this been legal in Poland? However... > > This is good, but it's not true anywhere else; so if the reverse > > engineering has been done outside the EU, there's a problem. ... I seem to have been wrong here. Can't say I don't like it, though :-) -- EARTH smog | bricks AIR -- mud -- FIRE soda water | tequila WATER -- with thanks to fortune
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Re: Bug#247802: ITP: libfasttrack-gift -- giFT plugin for the fastrack network
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wouter Verhelst writes: >> This is good, but it's not true anywhere else; so if the reverse >> engineering has been done outside the EU, there's a problem. > > Reverse-engineering is legal in the USA. And in Norway. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED]
