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2005-05-01 Thread Dominique Benton
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Re: modification of zlib/libpng license, is this legally usable?

2005-05-01 Thread Anders Bergh
Right, thanks alot. Would this apply to usage within eg. RHEL? What I
don't want is eg. someone to get it, implement it in their program, and
then sell it without permission.

On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 19:47 +0800, Wei Mingzhi wrote:
 This is okay as long as you don't call the result as
 ZLib/libpng License, but always note that any
 restrictions like the 4th clause will render the
 program non-free!
 
 --- Anders Bergh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hi
  
  I've modified the zlib/libpng license to be a bit
  more restrictive for commercial usage.. I would like
  to get some feedback, and I also wonder if it's
  legally usable.
  
  LICENSE
  
  Copyright (c) year copyright holders
  
  This software is provided 'as-is', without any
  express or implied warranty.
  In no event will the authors be held liable for any
  damages arising from the
  use of this software.
  
  Permission is granted to anyone to use this software
  for any non-commercial
  purpose, and to alter it and redistribute it freely,
  subject to the following
  restrictions:
  
  1. The origin of this software must not be
  misrepresented; you must not
 claim that you wrote the original software.
  If you use this software in a
 product, an acknowledgment in the product
  documentation would be
 appreciated but is not required.
  
  2. Altered source versions must be plainly
  marked as such, and must not be
 misrepresented as being the original
  software.
  
  3. This notice may not be removed or altered
  from any source distribution.
  
  For commercial usage these restrictions applies
  aswell:
  
  4. You must have written permission by the
  respective copyright holders
 for using this software.
  
  5. The usage of this software must be
  acknowledged somewhere easily
 accessible for the end user, such as the
  about box or product
 documentation.
  
  /LICENSE
  
  Anders
  
  
 
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Re: (DRAFT) FAQ on documentation licensing

2005-05-01 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Evan Prodromou wrote (nice essay, by the way):
We haven't yet seen the package that was so absolutely indispensable
that we had to give up our principles to include it in Debian.

Well, to nitpick, the GPL license text might qualify as that absolutely 
indispensible case.  License texts are a *very* special case, though, for 
many reasons which have been discussed before (license proliferation is 
actually bad; even if it's modifiable we have to ship it unmodified in order 
to ship the things licensed under it; if the law didn't make it necessary we 
wouldn't ship license texts at all; it's easy to tell a license text apart 
from the rest of Debian because it's always 
in /usr/share/doc/package/copyright; have I missed any?)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure nobody is going to come up with anything other than 
another license text which is as essential as the text of the GPL (or which 
has as little negative impact if allowed in) so your points still stand.

Oh.  I contribute this message to the public domain, or if that is not legally 
possible, I grant everyone a perpetual irrevocable license to treat it as if 
it is in the public domain.


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Illegal code distribution from http://people.debian.org/~cowboy/debian/x3270/

2005-05-01 Thread Andrew Saunders
On Mon, 11 April 2005, Richard A Nelson wrote:

 It seem to me the the situation can be cleared by sending few emails
 and instead the pacage was removed.

 You've only read about the most recent issue... This has been battled
 for *many* years and the DFSG crew is growing more vigilant - at the
 expense of the pragmatists amongs us :(

The need for a suitable permission statement from the rights holder(s)
for Debian to distribute any given copyrighted work is a legal
requirement, and has nothing at all to do with the DFSG.

 I still need and use x3270, in fact I've just put the newest version up at:
 http://people.debian.org/~cowboy/debian/x3270/dists/unstable/

As stated in the follow-ups to the bug report, the package was removed
from the FTP archive in order to reduce the Project's potential
liability for copyright infringement. Now, thanks to you, the Project
is *still* hosting and distributing copyrighted code from within its
infrastructure without the permissions required to legally do so.

I'm assuming that the only reason DSA haven't already moved to enforce
the Machine Usage Policy[1] is that they're not yet aware of this most
blatant and deliberate breach on your part. CC to -admin added in
order to bring it to their attention.

[1] http://www.debian.org/devel/dmup



Re: Illegal code distribution from http://people.debian.org/~cowboy/debian/x3270/

2005-05-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
(-admin dropped; nothing in this reply needs to go there)

On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 01:34:32AM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
 On Mon, 11 April 2005, Richard A Nelson wrote:
 
  It seem to me the the situation can be cleared by sending few emails
  and instead the pacage was removed.
 
  You've only read about the most recent issue... This has been battled
  for *many* years and the DFSG crew is growing more vigilant - at the
  expense of the pragmatists amongs us :(

If pragmatism is I don't care whether a work is Free or not, you're
in the wrong project.  (No, really.  Debian is about Free Software, and
if that's so low a priority for you that you'll label is an expense,
you're really in the wrong place.)

But if pragmatism is I don't care whether I might get myself or the project
sued by distributing something, you might be more at home with a warez
group.  :)

That said, I see a license at http://x3270.bgp.nu/license.html.  I don't
know if there's any indication that some source files in the distribution
are not, in fact, available under that license, but I wouldn't consider
simply lacking a notice on a source file to be an indication of much of
anything, as that license seems to claim to apply to the x3270 package
as a whole.  On the other hand, I can't find any licensing information at
all in the tarball itself, which at the very least isn't a good sign of
the upstream author's licensing diligence.

(Sorry for not spending the time to review #248853 in full, but the derisive,
knee-jerk dismissal of legal issues at its start--a year ago, to be fair--puts
me in little mood to read the thread much further.  :)

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