Re: Files with unclear licenses in non-free
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Robert Wohlrab wrote: > currently some people started to create a package for mupen64plus. There is a > complex license situation, but most files are under a free, osi-approved > license. Only the directory glN64 has files without any license informations > http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/mupen64plus.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/copyright Is there any indication that the glN64 dir is under a different license to the rest of the code? > There is also a rom included with source code, but it is currently not > possible > to crosscompile this rom on a debian build machine. Why is that? Perhaps you could package the compiler for it? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PS documentation file, no sources, author died
In message <4a253aae.4040...@debian.org>, Giacomo A. Catenazzi writes Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message <20090530071729.gh30...@matthew.ath.cx>, Matthew Johnson writes On Sat May 30 00:21, Rafael Laboissiere wrote: I would really like to distribute the documentation file but the upstream author died recently [6] and the chances are small that the sources can be found. Is there any rule that applies to this case, I mean, when an author dies? Copyright (at least in some important jurisdiction) applies for life + 70 years, so it still applies and would now be held by the author's estate. Copyright in pretty much ALL jurisdictions (ie not including, iirc, places like North Korea) lasts for a *minimum* of 50 calendar years after creation. *minimum* ? Not really. Copyrights disappear when there are no copyright holders (failed bankrupts procedure and lack of heirs, when public entities doesn't take the assets). On some countries (like UK, IIRC) there are also "orphaned works". Mmmm ... Then why are so many works disintegrating (I'm thinking of films) because no one knows who the copyright holder is, and no one dares copy them? And I don't know about other countries, but (a) I've never heard of "orphaned works" in the UK, and (b) certainly in the case of lack of heirs, the state takes everything. I don't know what happens for failed bankrupts, but I guess there is some sort of "residual or worthless assets" rules. And basically, Berne says copyright is a minimum of 50 years, and Berne applies in pretty much all jurisdictions. So if you don't know who the copyright holder is, you're stuffed. Anyway these cases doesn't make it GPL compatible. Of course ... Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman - anth...@thewolery.demon.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mono and moonlight distribution method make me worried.
Steve Langasek wrote at 19:58 (EDT) on Sunday: > we don't consider the existence of a software patent claim to be a > sufficient reason to remove software from main. Well said. There are so many USA patents, if you tried to remove every piece of software from main that might be judged to practice the teachings of some patent, you'd do a *lot* of removing. Nevertheless, possible patents on Mono and what Novell/Microsoft's strategy is with regard to releasing this software is something to watch and be concerned about. -- -- bkuhn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PS documentation file, no sources, author died
ha...@volny.cz wrote: I'm not a lawyer, but: 1) It is clear that the author wished his work to be distributed as freely as circumstances allow. Is it really clear? So why did not he distribute the sources? ciao cate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PS documentation file, no sources, author died
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message <20090530071729.gh30...@matthew.ath.cx>, Matthew Johnson writes On Sat May 30 00:21, Rafael Laboissiere wrote: I would really like to distribute the documentation file but the upstream author died recently [6] and the chances are small that the sources can be found. Is there any rule that applies to this case, I mean, when an author dies? Copyright (at least in some important jurisdiction) applies for life + 70 years, so it still applies and would now be held by the author's estate. Copyright in pretty much ALL jurisdictions (ie not including, iirc, places like North Korea) lasts for a *minimum* of 50 calendar years after creation. *minimum* ? Not really. Copyrights disappear when there are no copyright holders (failed bankrupts procedure and lack of heirs, when public entities doesn't take the assets). On some countries (like UK, IIRC) there are also "orphaned works". Anyway these cases doesn't make it GPL compatible. ciao cate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: legal questions regarding machine learning models
On Sun, 31 May 2009 16:52:23 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:42:46PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:37:56 +0200 Steve Langasek wrote: [...] > > > Better yet: he should recognize that the reason he needs to add all these > > > acronyms is because his posts are an inappropriate use of this mailing > > > list > > > and not productive, and stop posting. > > > You're not new to such impolite replies, and I don't think your > > reputation benefits from them. > > I think it has no negative impact on my reputation with anyone whose > opinion I value. > > Which most explicitly does not include you. > > You use this mailing list as your own personal soap box for advancing > positions that have been *rejected* by Debian. No, I participate in the discussions of this mailing list because I care about Free Software and the Debian Project. When an opinion is asked to debian-legal participants about something, I feel to be allowed to provide my *own* opinion, while explicitly saying that it's not necessarily *identical* to the (current) official Debian position. When I disagree with a decision by the Debian Project or by the FTP masters, I think I am allowed to express my disagreement. > That is not acceptable. Says who? The description of this mailing states: "Discussions about legality issues such as copyrights, patents etc. This list is not moderated; posting is allowed by anyone." > The purpose of this list is to help Debian developers and upstreams > understand Debian's policy for the main archive, and as a forum for Debian > as a whole to work on refining that policy. Exactly: how can that policy be refined, if absolutely *no* disagreement with current practice is allowed? > You don't appear to contribute > anything to Debian except the crap you spew on this mailing list. Please search better. I report bugs, I send patches from time to time, I've recently become co-maintainer of a package, ... It's not much, I admit. But the attitude of people like you has been constantly discouraging me from getting more involved in the Project. > You are > therefore *not* part of Debian. "IANADD" disclaimers do *not* excuse you > abusing this list in order to shove your opinions down others' throats, when > you know damn well that the project does not agree with you. > > So shut up already. Again this snob attitude: "you are not part of Debian, so shut up". How open minded... > > > Anyway, if disagreeing with FTP masters and expressing one's own > > opinion (while *explicitly* clarifying that what is expressed is just > > one's own opinion, and not necessarily the official Debian position) is > > an "inappropriate use of this mailing list", then I suggest that the > > list is shut down as soon as possible and that debian-le...@l.d.o is > > turned into a forwarder to ftpmas...@d.o ... > > I would be much happier with having debian-legal shut down than with > continuing a status quo that permits opinionated hangers-on like you to > repeatedly twist the discussion to suit your personal agenda. I am being accused of "inappropriate use of this mailing list" and of "twisting the discussion" by a person whose only contribution to the present thread consists of two rude ad hominem attacks. Oh, the irony... -- New location for my website! Update your bookmarks! http://www.inventati.org/frx . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpHHes8e4RS5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Files with unclear licenses in non-free
Hi, currently some people started to create a package for mupen64plus. There is a complex license situation, but most files are under a free, osi-approved license. Only the directory glN64 has files without any license informations http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/mupen64plus.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/copyright So my question is how it is handled in debian. Can I * upload it to non-free with autobuild enabled? * upload to non-free with glN64 removed from autobuild? * remove it from the source tarball (create dfsg tarball) and upload it to contrib? There is also a rom included with source code, but it is currently not possible to crosscompile this rom on a debian build machine. Is it allowed to install this rom as example? -- Robert Wohlrab -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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