recommendation for packaging license

2011-09-02 Thread Thomas Koch
Hi,

I try to use the machine readable copyright format. Maybe you'd like to see 
whether I got it right (attached).

Could you enhance the documentation of the copyright format or the policy with 
a recommendation for the copyright in the debian/* files section? I couldn't 
care less about the copyright and tend to use the Do What The Fuck You Want 
To Public License. However I really want to make life as easy as possible for 
all humans. It'd also be nice if it could be a license where I don't need to 
copy the license text in the copyright file to keep it as short as possible.

So an ideal answer would be just a template section I could copy and paste in 
my debian/copyright!

Thank you,

Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
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Re: recommendation for packaging license

2011-09-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 at 14:10:38 +0200, Thomas Koch wrote:
 Could you enhance the documentation of the copyright format or the policy 
 with 
 a recommendation for the copyright in the debian/* files section? I couldn't 
 care less about the copyright and tend to use the Do What The Fuck You Want 
 To Public License. However I really want to make life as easy as possible 
 for 
 all humans. It'd also be nice if it could be a license where I don't need to 
 copy the license text in the copyright file to keep it as short as possible.

By Policy, the only licenses you don't need to quote in the copyright file
are the ones in /usr/share/common-licenses, and the license grant to put
something under one of those licenses properly is of comparable length to
a short license like Expat.

For minimal length for a comprehensive Free license, I still like the
GNU all-permissive license:

https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/License-Notices-for-Other-Files.html
 Copying and distribution of this file, with or without modification,
 are permitted in any medium without royalty provided the copyright
 notice and this notice are preserved.  This file is offered as-is,
 without any warranty.

and the ad-hoc license of IkiWiki's basewiki:

http://ikiwiki.info/freesoftware/
 Redistribution and use in source and compiled forms, with or without
 modification, are permitted under any circumstances. No warranty.

although Joey warns that the warranty disclaimer in the latter may not be
safe to apply to general software:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/04/msg00097.html
 Its warantee disclaimer is indeed weak. I don't know that I would
 want to use this on any software that could cause trouble if it broke.
 The files it was attached to are mostly templates that users go in and
 edit, and some documentation.

The no-warranty disclaimer is somewhat orthogonal to having a Free Software
license, but may be important to protect you from being sued by your users
over bugs in your software; the wording in the GPL is carefully chosen to
mention specific phrases (as is, fitness for a particular purpose) that
are significant in USA law.

S


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Re: recommendation for packaging license

2011-09-02 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:10:38 +0200
Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro wrote:

 Could you enhance the documentation of the copyright format or the policy
 with a recommendation for the copyright in the debian/* files section?

  File a wishlist against debian-policy.

 I couldn't care less about the copyright and tend to use the Do What The
 Fuck You Want To Public License. However I really want to make life as
 easy as possible for all humans. It'd also be nice if it could be a
 license where I don't need to copy the license text in the copyright file
 to keep it as short as possible.

  Use the same as upstream and you don't have to copy anything. Read DEP-5
  again on how to use a separate License stanza.

 So an ideal answer would be just a template section I could copy and paste
 in my debian/copyright!

  Templates get outdated with time and propagate errors when that happen,
  not a good idea.

  regards,
-- 
 Ricardo Mones
 http://people.debian.org/~mones
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Re: recommendation for packaging license

2011-09-02 Thread Ben Finney
Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro writes:

 Could you enhance the documentation of the copyright format or the
 policy with a recommendation for the copyright in the debian/* files
 section?

Choosing the license terms for a work is a complex decision.

It's not the place of the documentation to make that recommendation.
It's certainly not the place of Debian policy to do so.

 I couldn't care less about the copyright

That's regrettable; it is an important topic and I'd hope Debian package
maintainers would care.

 and tend to use the Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License.
 However I really want to make life as easy as possible for all humans.

In that particular case, I would recommend you specify the exact same
license terms as the rest of the work.

But that's only because of your particular requirements; this is
certainly not a general recommendation.

 It'd also be nice if it could
 be a license where I don't need to copy the license text in the
 copyright file to keep it as short as possible.

Among other advantages, the above recommendation means you don't have to
copy the license text; just refer to it by the same name in the
‘License’ field.

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