Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-22 Thread Clark C. Evans
I have approval to release HTSQL (http://htsql) under the AGPLv3
license so long as it contains an attribution requirement as
permitted by section 7 of the GPL.  We also plan to release some
other components of our RexDB work under a more liberal
permissive license with a similar attribution requirement.

The particular Additional Term I'm proposing can be found here:
https://github.com/hattip/fmn/blob/master/GPL-FMN-TERM

Rather than do this in a manner that hurts license proliferation,
I'm attempting to make generally reusable AGPLv3 clause and such
license derived from the MIT so that others that wish attribution
could use these terms instead of minting their own.  To this end,
I've setup a GitHub project, for this Forget Me Not effort:

https://github.com/hattip/fmn#readme

As part of this broader effort, I hope to also have a simple
compliance tool that would generate a static web page that 
could be used for credits  licensing.

I'd love your commentary and assistance making this broadly
useful and I particularly value feedback by Debian community.

Best,

Clark


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Re: Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-22 Thread Clark C. Evans
I apologize, the repository is https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 04:31 PM, Clark C. Evans wrote:
 I have approval to release HTSQL (http://htsql) under the AGPLv3
 license so long as it contains an attribution requirement as
 permitted by section 7 of the GPL.  We also plan to release some
 other components of our RexDB work under a more liberal
 permissive license with a similar attribution requirement.
 
 The particular Additional Term I'm proposing can be found here:
 https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn/blob/master/GPL-FMN-TERM
 
 Rather than do this in a manner that hurts license proliferation,
 I'm attempting to make generally reusable AGPLv3 clause and such
 license derived from the MIT so that others that wish attribution
 could use these terms instead of minting their own.  To this end,
 I've setup a GitHub project, for this Forget Me Not effort:
 
 https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn#readme
 
 As part of this broader effort, I hope to also have a simple
 compliance tool that would generate a static web page that 
 could be used for credits  licensing.
 
 I'd love your commentary and assistance making this broadly
 useful and I particularly value feedback by Debian community.
 
 Best,
 
 Clark
 


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Re: Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-22 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:31:55 -0500 Clark C. Evans wrote:

 I have approval to release HTSQL (http://htsql) under the AGPLv3
 license

I won't repeat myself here, but, as you already know, I am *not* happy
to see another project that adopts the GNU AfferoGPL v3: I think that
this license choice makes the work non-free...

 so long as it contains an attribution requirement as
 permitted by section 7 of the GPL.
[...]
 The particular Additional Term I'm proposing can be found here:

Just a couple of quick comments:

https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn/blob/master/GPL-FMN-TERM
describes itself as an additional permissive term, but seems to
actually be an additional requirement.
I am under the impression that it should be considered a
non-permissive additional term, as defined in the GNU GPL v3 (and in
the GNU AfferoGPL v3).

I am not sure I understand which is the category of allowed
non-permissive additional terms this one is intended to belong to.
Section 7 of the GNU (Affero)GPL v3 lists 6 categories (a through f) of
non-permissive additional terms that may supplement of the terms
written in the text of the license.
Which category should the FMN Term be considered belonging to?


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Re: Forget Me Not - Commensurate Attribution

2012-01-22 Thread Clark C. Evans
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Francesco Poli wrote:
 https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn/blob/master/GPL-FMN-TERM
 describes itself as an additional permissive term, but seems to
 actually be an additional requirement.

Quite right.  I was reading section 7 incorrectly and had 
mentally omitted the word other.  So, you're correct, this 
is a non-permissive additional term as defined by the GPLv3.
I've fixed this, thank you so much!

 I am not sure I understand which is the category of allowed
 non-permissive additional terms this one is intended to belong 
 to.  Section 7 of the GNU (Affero)GPL v3 lists 6 categories (a
 through f) of non-permissive additional terms that may supplement 
 of the terms written in the text of the license.

I was intending for it to be subject to 7b, in particular,

  Requiring ... author attributions ... in the Appropriate 
  Legal Notices displayed by works containing it

To help move things along, I've written a Language Discussion
section in the readme describing my logic. I'm hopeful to have 
commentary and any corrections you might see. 

https://github.com/tip-o-the-hat/fmn#readme

Best,

Clark


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