Re: Squeak License DFSG free?

2000-09-13 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi!

Thanks for your help. 

The font-issue will be resolved soon. And it seems to be possible
that the license will be changed after this is done. I hope
it will then be possible for Squeak to be real Free Software

In the meantime Squeak has to be part of non-free.  

  thanks again,

Marcus


On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 12:49:51PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
 Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   http://squeak.org/license.html
 
 I'm not sure we can honor the preamble:
 
PLEASE READ THIS SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT LICENSE CAREFULLY BEFORE
DOWNLOADING THIS SOFTWARE. BY DOWNLOADING THIS SOFTWARE YOU ARE
AGREEING TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE
TO THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE, DO NOT DOWNLOAD.
 
 The questions is wether this kind of licenses is binding or just void.
 
 
2. Permitted Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to copy,
install and use the Apple Software on an unlimited number of computers
under your direct control. You may modify and create derivative works
of the Apple Software (Modified Software), however, you may not
modify or create derivative works of the fonts provided by Apple
(Fonts). You may distribute and sublicense such Modified Software
 
 The Fonts is clearly non-free. Can the package use fonts not
 provided by Apple?
 
 
6. Export Law Assurances. You may not use or otherwise export or
reexport the Apple Software except as authorized by United States law
and the laws of the jurisdiction in which the Apple Software was
obtained.
 
 Doesn't this alone makes it non-free? I think we have discussed it
 several times what it means when licenses explicite referes to some
 laws which isn't DFSG-free. I think that it makes the license
 non-free, but I don't remember what we have agreed on.
 
 -- 
 Peter

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Re: Squeak License DFSG free?

2000-08-29 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi!

Some days ago I asked about the Squeak License, but I have not received
any answer. 

 http://squeak.org/license.html

Is this License DFSG free? I've now built Debian packages 
(available at ftp://ftp.ira.uka.de/pub/squeak/debian/debian-2.2/2.8/ )
and I'd like to know if it is possible for Squeak to be part of
Debian.

  thanks, 

  Marcus

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Squeak License DFSG free?

2000-08-14 Thread Marcus Denker
, added and ported portions of the Changed Software
   must be made publicly available, preferably by means of download from
   a website, at no charge under the terms of a license that makes no
   representations or warranties on behalf of any third party, is no less
   protective of [the licensors of the Modified Software] and its
   licensors, and contains the terms set forth in Exhibit A below [which
   should contain the terms of this Exhibit A]. You may distribute and
   sublicense the [Fonts] only as a part of and for use with Changed
   Software, and not as a part of or for use with Changed Software that
   is distributed or sublicensed for a fee or for other valuable
   consideration.
 
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