KDE application relicensing

2006-02-07 Thread Regis Boudin
Hi Debian legal people,

I maintan a KDE application, so I have the pleasure of dealing with some
GFDL data. Fortunately, the upstream author decided to relicense his work
under a dual GFDL/BSDDL license, so it can be included in Debian. However,
he is not certain about the wording, so I come here to ask your opinion on
the subject.

According to his mail,

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the documentation will include the GFDL notice, followed by:


The author of this documentation has also granted you permission to use
the  content under the terms of the FreeBSD Documentation License (BSDDL),
if  you so choose. If you wish to allow use of your version of this
content  only under the terms of the BSDDL, and not to allow others to use
your  version of this file under the terms of the GFDL, indicate your
decision by  deleting the GFDL notice and and replacing it with the notice
and other  provisions required by the GPL. If you do not delete the GFDL
notice above,  a recipient may use your version of this file under the
terms of either the  GFDL or the BSDDL.


The text of the BSD doc license is included as a link. Will that be 
sufficient for Debian? Or do you have other wording to suggest?
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Yes, I know there is a GPL in the middle, I already suggested to replace
it by BSDDL.

Any other thing that would need to be modified ?

I'm not subscribed to the list, so please CC me.

Thanks,
Regis
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Re: KDE application relicensing

2006-02-07 Thread Regis Boudin

Glenn Maynard said:
 On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 10:04:23AM -, Regis Boudin wrote:
 I maintan a KDE application, so I have the pleasure of dealing with some
 GFDL data. Fortunately, the upstream author decided to relicense his
 work
 under a dual GFDL/BSDDL license, so it can be included in Debian.
 However,
 he is not certain about the wording, so I come here to ask your opinion
 on
 the subject.

 I know of no common license by the abbreviation BSDDL (and neither does
 Google).  Please attach the license you're referring to.

Oops, soory for that. He is relicensing under FreeBSD Documentaion
License. I heve no idea where the BSDDL abreviation comes from.

Thanks for pointing that.

Regis
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Re: Re: openssl vs. GPL question

2005-06-10 Thread Regis Boudin
Hi everyone,

On 6/4/05, Dafydd Harries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a package Alexandria, written in Ruby, which will depend on a
 new library in the next version. This library, ruby-zoom, is an LGPL Ruby
 binding of libyaz. libyaz links to OpenSSL and is, as far as I can tell,
 under a 2-clause BSD licence. Everything fine so far.
 
 But it seems to me that it will be impossible for Alexandria, which is
 under the GPL, to use ruby-zoom legally as, by doing so, it will be
 linking against OpenSSL, which is under a GPL-incompatible licence. Am I
 right in thinking so?

It is Debian's historical practice, and the FSF's stance, not to
permit this kind of dependency (direct or indirect).  I believe
strongly, and have adduced plenty of case law to demonstrate, that the
FSF's GPL FAQ is in error on this point.  I would not say, however,
that my opinion represents a debian-legal consensus.  See recent
debian-legal threads about Quagga, which is in a similar position.

 My understanding of this issue is based on reading this thread:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/10/msg00113.html
 
 If there is indeed a licence problem here, I can see two main solutions:
 
  - Try to get libyaz in Debian to link against GnuTLS instead of
OpenSSL.
 
  - Get the maintainer of Alexandria to make an exception for linking
against OpenSSL.

The latter is probably a better choice (at least in the short term),
since the OpenSSL shim for GNU TLS was added to the GPL (not LGPL)
libgnutls-extra.  (It's possible that it has since been moved into the
LGPL portion, but I don't think so.)  While I don't believe in the
FSF's theories about linking causing GPL violation (especially in
the indirect scenario), it's the Debian way to request a clarification
from upstream.
 
 I notice that the Tellico package, which is GPL, already links against
 libyaz. Is this a licence violation?

No; but there again, it would probably be best to check with upstream
about whether they would mind adding an explicit OpenSSL exemption. 
Wishlist bug?

Sorry to arrive late, I am not on -legal, amd only noticed this thread
during one of my usual checking of what's happening around here. I appear
to be the maintainer of tellico, so I would like to have a good advice on
what to do for this problem.

I have CC'ed Robby Stephenson, who is the upstream author of Tellico, so he can
know and make a decision about it if he thinks he should.

Regards,
Regis 


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