Re: web hosting providers' modified .debs

2008-01-25 Thread jidanni
FW GPLv3 makes it pretty clear that Dreamhost can take your rights away

So all that effort of writing Free Software and the result is there is
Johnny, sitting at the shell prompt, unable to see the source code
to anything behind it if they decide to close it.

I bet the same goes with OLPC then. Also probably:

Hey kids, we here at Gooble Corp. have so many extra computers lying
around, we've decided to offer you all shell accounts using the famous
Debian GNU/Linux operating system plus our bonus tweaks!

So just connect to our computers instead of having to go out and buy a
computer of your own and install all that mess.

We here at Gooble know how confusing source code is, and that is why
we are making every effort to never let you see it again, accidentally
or otherwise.

Use computers some old fashioned way? Why bother! Get with the G-program!


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Re: web hosting providers' modified .debs

2008-01-24 Thread jidanni
Dear legal beagles, all I know is if one day I couldn't do
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -l  apt-get --print-uris ...  wget ...
to examine the .debs that were Debian debs but slightly modified by
Dreamhost (or other such web host), well that would mean the whole
Free Software concept had come to a grinding halt. I.e., Junior is
sitting at the prompt using
$ emacs ...; grep ...
but no longer able to see the source of what he is using. Yes he could
go to gnu.org or debian.org and see some progenitor versions, but not the
source of what he is using, despite all the Copyleft labels still
visible in them using strings(1).

So Dear legal beagles, please close this loophole, if any.


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web hosting providers' modified .debs

2008-01-23 Thread jidanni
Just curious, e.g., dreamhost.com modifies Debian .debs to produce
their hosting environment, which we Dreamhost users then use on our
shell accounts there.

If I can do
$ cat file
then I should always also be able to cat the source (.deb) to that
same cat, no?  (I can at present.)

Yes I read that Affero news, but am not sure it is relevant.


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