Re: Dual licensed LGPL2.1/GPL3 linking to GPL3 with OpenSSL exception

2015-02-28 Thread Ángel González

On 28/02/15 02:31, Riley Baird wrote:

Hi -legal!

I was reviewing a package classified-ads for Debian, and I noticed a 
potential problem in the process. Namely, the author of the program has decided to use 
GPL3 with the OpenSSL exception. However, they have taken some files from Nokia which are 
dual licensed under either LGPL2.1 or GPL3. I think that since Nokia did not make the 
OpenSSL exception, Debian cannot legally distribute the result. However, I assume that it 
would be okay if the maintainer decided to change their license to LGPL2.1. Can someone 
confirm whether all of this is correct?

The project is here: https://github.com/operatornormal/classified_ads/
and the Nokia-licensed files are here: 
https://github.com/operatornormal/classified_ads/tree/master/textedit

Yours thankfully,

Riley Baird
Or they could keep the files from Nokia under LGPL2.1, and use 
GPL3+openssl exception for the rest of the files. Given that they have 
proper headers, I don't see a problem with that, although I would 
mention that in the readme.



PS: I don't see the OpenSSL exception anywhere there.



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Re: Bug#779377: Dual licensed LGPL2.1/GPL3 linking to GPL3 with OpenSSL exception

2015-02-28 Thread Riley Baird
 Or they could keep the files from Nokia under LGPL2.1, and use 
 GPL3+openssl exception for the rest of the files. Given that they have 
 proper headers, I don't see a problem with that, although I would 
 mention that in the readme.

But what license would the work as a whole be distributed as, then?

 PS: I don't see the OpenSSL exception anywhere there.

It's in the debian directory, but I agree that it could be made more
clear.


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Re: Bug#779377: Dual licensed LGPL2.1/GPL3 linking to GPL3 with OpenSSL exception

2015-02-28 Thread Ángel González

On 01/03/15 00:05, Riley Baird wrote:

Or they could keep the files from Nokia under LGPL2.1, and use
GPL3+openssl exception for the rest of the files. Given that they have
proper headers, I don't see a problem with that, although I would
mention that in the readme.

But what license would the work as a whole be distributed as, then?

I see your problem now. Silly conflicts between opensource licenses.
Maybe LGPL2.1 can be upgraded to GPL3+openssl exception?
It fits the spirit of those licenses, but I don't know if that'd 
actually be

possible from a legal POV.


A LGPL2.1 library can be used in a binary under GPL3+openssl exception 
since section 6 states:
«you may also combine or link a work that uses the Library with the 
Library to produce a work containing portions of the Library, and 
distribute that work under terms of your choice, provided that the terms 
permit modification of the work for the customer's own use and reverse 
engineering for debugging such modifications» but I don't think you can 
apply GPL + openssl exception terms to a LGPL work since IMHO that would 
no longer be the  ordinary GNU General Public License.


Another option would be to relicense the program adding a LGPL linking 
exception, too.


If upstream doesn't mind relicensing under LGPL (per #25), I would 
recommend doing so, as that will be much clearer.


About Lenin photograph:
Don't concern about imaginary countries. Copyright is sufficiently 
complex with the existing ones :)
It's over 50 years pma which seems to be the copyright duration in 
Russia. And for US, which is not following
the shorter term rule of the Berne Convention, it's also PD for being 
published before 1923. I don't think it would be a problem, but IAANAL.



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Dual licensed LGPL2.1/GPL3 linking to GPL3 with OpenSSL exception

2015-02-27 Thread Riley Baird
Hi -legal!

I was reviewing a package classified-ads for Debian, and I noticed a 
potential problem in the process. Namely, the author of the program has decided 
to use GPL3 with the OpenSSL exception. However, they have taken some files 
from Nokia which are dual licensed under either LGPL2.1 or GPL3. I think that 
since Nokia did not make the OpenSSL exception, Debian cannot legally 
distribute the result. However, I assume that it would be okay if the 
maintainer decided to change their license to LGPL2.1. Can someone confirm 
whether all of this is correct?

The project is here: https://github.com/operatornormal/classified_ads/
and the Nokia-licensed files are here: 
https://github.com/operatornormal/classified_ads/tree/master/textedit

Yours thankfully,

Riley Baird


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