Licensing of package nauty

2008-01-24 Thread bremner

Nauty [1] is pretty much the standard software for graph isomorphism
testing, and is used by a several other pieces of research software
(e.g. polymake, which I have ITPed [2]).  Unfortunately from the
Debian point of view, the distribution conditions are somewhat
restrictive.


Copyright (1984-2007) Brendan McKay. All rights
reserved. Permission is hereby given for use and/or
distribution with the exception of sale for profit or
application with nontrivial military significance. You must
not remove this copyright notice, and you must document any
changes that you make to this program. This software is
subject to this copyright only, irrespective of any copyright
attached to any package of which this is a part.
  
 Absolutely no guarantees or warranties are made concerning
 the suitability, correctness, or any other aspect of this
 program. Any use is at your own risk.

I can ask the author if would distribute under some DFSG free license,
but in the case that he declines, is there any other clarification
needed before it can be included in non-free?

David

PS no-need to CC me, I'll follow the discussion via gmane


[1] http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/nauty/
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/461976


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Re: Licensing of package nauty

2008-01-24 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Jan 24 09:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   Copyright (1984-2007) Brendan McKay. All rights
   reserved. Permission is hereby given for use and/or
   distribution with the exception of sale for profit or
   application with nontrivial military significance. You must
   not remove this copyright notice, and you must document any
   changes that you make to this program. This software is
   subject to this copyright only, irrespective of any copyright
   attached to any package of which this is a part.
   
Absolutely no guarantees or warranties are made concerning
the suitability, correctness, or any other aspect of this
program. Any use is at your own risk.
 
 I can ask the author if would distribute under some DFSG free license,
 but in the case that he declines, is there any other clarification
 needed before it can be included in non-free?

This looks like it gives us permission to distribute it in non-free if
you can get it licenced under a DFSG-compatible licence.

Matt

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Re: Licensing of package nauty

2008-01-24 Thread John Halton
On Jan 24, 2008 8:35 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Copyright (1984-2007) Brendan McKay. All rights
 reserved. Permission is hereby given for use and/or
 distribution with the exception of sale for profit or
 application with nontrivial military significance.

This is totally non-free, alas. It does not allow for modification of
the software, prohibits commercial sale (thus making it impossible to
distribute as part of a Debian DVD or CD set) and contains a serious
use restriction (against nontrivial military significance, whatever
*that* means).

 You must
 not remove this copyright notice, and you must document any
 changes that you make to this program.

That bit's OK.

 This software is
 subject to this copyright only, irrespective of any copyright
 attached to any package of which this is a part.

I'm a bit unclear as to what this means. The author seems to think
that the notice itself is the copyright, so when he says the subject
is subject to this copyright only, I assume he means subject to
this copyright *notice* only. That's probably OK, though it could
cause some compatibility problems if combined with GPLed software.

 I can ask the author if would distribute under some DFSG free license,
 but in the case that he declines, is there any other clarification
 needed before it can be included in non-free?

I don't think any clarification is needed for inclusion in non-free,
assuming that the no sale for profit wording is OK for non-free.

John

(TINLA)


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Re: Licensing of package nauty

2008-01-24 Thread John Halton
On Jan 24, 2008 9:47 AM, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This looks like it gives us permission to distribute it in non-free if
 you can get it licenced under a DFSG-compatible licence.

I assume you mean if you *can't* get it licensed under a
DFSG-compatible licence. On that basis, I agree (assuming that the
no sale for profit wording is OK for non-free - not sure what the
policy is for non-free).

John

(TINLA)


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Re: Licensing of package nauty

2008-01-24 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11274 March 1977, Matthew Johnson wrote:

 I can ask the author if would distribute under some DFSG free license,
 but in the case that he declines, is there any other clarification
 needed before it can be included in non-free?
 This looks like it gives us permission to distribute it in non-free if
 you can get it licenced under a DFSG-compatible licence.

Err, what?
If its dfsg compatible then its fine for main.

The current license is idiotic but acceptable for non-free.

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