Re: Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Am Donnerstag, den 29.08.2013, 19:49 +0200 schrieb Fabian Greffrath: Am Freitag, den 23.08.2013, 16:32 -0300 schrieb Rogério Brito: Anyway, back to URW Garamond No. 8, I guess that the letter that I wrote may still be relevant. Should I try sending it? Any news on this? Rogerio? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1378717480.15460.0.ca...@kff50.ghi.rwth-aachen.de
Re: Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Hey Rogerio et al., Am Freitag, den 23.08.2013, 16:32 -0300 schrieb Rogério Brito: Anyway, back to URW Garamond No. 8, I guess that the letter that I wrote may still be relevant. Should I try sending it? Any news on this? - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377798580.2401.0.camel@kff50
Re: Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com wrote: Am Freitag, den 23.08.2013, 16:32 -0300 schrieb Rogério Brito: Anyway, back to URW Garamond No. 8, I guess that the letter that I wrote may still be relevant. Should I try sending it? Yes, please do so! Maybe we have some chance of success as a Linux distributor requesting relicensing of one single font (that has already been released to the public anyway, though under different terms). Thank you very much! Could you ask also for the fontforge source and not like the postscript font the resulting file ? - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377503459.29272.24.ca...@kff50.ghi.rwth-aachen.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cae2spaagog-_toxvq5bfe-5nb8nommp2hpnlmfsw2urhqzz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Am Dienstag, den 27.08.2013, 10:44 +0200 schrieb roucaries bastien: Could you ask also for the fontforge source and not like the postscript font the resulting file ? We should be careful and not request too much at once from them. I once had a short mail with RMS about that topic and the FSF considers fonts in binary formats acceptible, since they can still be edited with font editors. Please note that the .sfd format is not the canonical source format for fonts, but only fontforge's own file format which happens to be text-based. So it's just one possible, though often the prefered, format for fonts. On the other hand, it is not necessary that URW uses fontforge for their font editing, so they might not even be able to provide fonts in its sfd format. - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377599942.29217.6.ca...@kff50.ghi.rwth-aachen.de
Re: Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Am Freitag, den 23.08.2013, 16:32 -0300 schrieb Rogério Brito: Anyway, back to URW Garamond No. 8, I guess that the letter that I wrote may still be relevant. Should I try sending it? Yes, please do so! Maybe we have some chance of success as a Linux distributor requesting relicensing of one single font (that has already been released to the public anyway, though under different terms). Thank you very much! - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377503459.29272.24.ca...@kff50.ghi.rwth-aachen.de
Re: Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Hi, Fabian and others.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com wrote:
Dear Rogerio et al.,
Thank you very much for your review. I just sent a letter to the GUST to
see how they approached URW to change the license of the Base 35 fonts.
Let's hope that they answer soon.
this was Tue, 20 Apr 2010. Did you ever get a response to your letter to
GUST and has your letter ever been forwarded to URW?
I did get in contact with Jerzy (CC'ed) and he helpfully told me that,
IIRC, one of the key steps in getting the fonts to be released under a
Free License was to talk with Dr. Peter Rosenfeld to also release the
Base 35 fonts under the LPPL.
I also remember that I had a correspondence with a person that saw my
modifications to the font and whose university was contemplating
purchasing a license of the fonts from URW and, IIRC, they entered
into some talk with URW, but URW wanted something on the order of 7500
euros (I don't remember if this is the precise number) to donate the
font under a Free License.
Apparently, said university did get a copy for themselves, but they
didn't have all the money for liberating the fonts.
Unfortunately, I didn't forward the letter to URW, in face of the
above. Given that Linux Libertine has been making some huge progress
(with respect to LaTeX) and it is a delicate design similar to Adobe's
Minion Pro, I was satisfied with that.
Anyway, back to URW Garamond No. 8, I guess that the letter that I
wrote may still be relevant. Should I try sending it?
Any opinions? Please, keep me CC'ed, as I have reduced my mailing list
subscriptions to almost zero (I was drowning under emails and not
getting the job done).
Regards,
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Re: Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Dear Rogerio et al., Thank you very much for your review. I just sent a letter to the GUST to see how they approached URW to change the license of the Base 35 fonts. Let's hope that they answer soon. this was Tue, 20 Apr 2010. Did you ever get a response to your letter to GUST and has your letter ever been forwarded to URW? What's the outcome of all this? - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377173210.18132.1.ca...@kff50.ghi.rwth-aachen.de
Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Hi, Walter and other people.
On Apr 13 2010, Walter Landry wrote:
Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br wrote:
P.S.: Please, as I am not a native speaker of English, feel free to
correct my grammar, style or anything that would improve the text.
Here you go. Feel free to ignore any or all of my suggestions.
Thank you very much for your review. I just sent a letter to the GUST to
see how they approached URW to change the license of the Base 35 fonts.
Let's hope that they answer soon.
Re: Software Licence for URW Garamond Fonts
To whom it may concern,
I am a software developer associated with the Debian project [1], an
association of individuals who work together to create a free
operating system. I am interested in including the URW Garamond fonts
in Debian. Including them in Debian would make them easily available on
multiple mirror worldwide, showcasing the excellent work you have done
Just a question: is mirror in multiple mirror worldwide be written
in singular or in plural form?
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
(...)
Thanks again for your review,
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Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br wrote: Hi, Walter and other people. On Apr 13 2010, Walter Landry wrote: Re: Software Licence for URW Garamond Fonts To whom it may concern, I am a software developer associated with the Debian project [1], an association of individuals who work together to create a free operating system. I am interested in including the URW Garamond fonts in Debian. Including them in Debian would make them easily available on multiple mirror worldwide, showcasing the excellent work you have done Just a question: is mirror in multiple mirror worldwide be written in singular or in plural form? Sorry. My mistake. It should be multiple mirrors worldwide. Cheers, Walter Landry wlan...@caltech.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100421.062617.497362439094414722.wal...@geodynamics.org
Re: About the licensing of URW Garamond No. 8
Rogério Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br wrote: P.S.: Please, as I am not a native speaker of English, feel free to correct my grammar, style or anything that would improve the text. Here you go. Feel free to ignore any or all of my suggestions. Cheers, Walter Landry Re: Software Licence for URW Garamond Fonts To whom it may concern, I am a software developer associated with the Debian project [1], an association of individuals who work together to create a free operating system. I am interested in including the URW Garamond fonts in Debian. Including them in Debian would make them easily available on multiple mirror worldwide, showcasing the excellent work you have done with your fonts. Part of the criteria for including the fonts in Debian is that they conform to a specific set of guidelines: the Debian Free Software Guidelines [2]. The URW Garamond fonts are currently available under the Aladdin Free Public License (AFPL) [3]. Unfortunately, works licensed under the AFPL do not conform to the DFSG, a fact alluded to in the introduction of the AFPL. Despite that, people have been using, redistributing, and modifying them. Motivated by a desire to create a complete set of high quality fonts for Debian and others, I built upon your work and their work by creating a public repository where I can integrate their changes and create a complete set of fonts [4]. As the project diverges from the original fonts as released by (URW)++, it would be convenient if the fonts could be made available under a license that is compatible with the DFSG. This would make it easier to attract contributions and distribute the result. We can, of course, make the fonts available under a different name and fully acknowledge that the initial work was done by (URW)++. We can also refer people to your commercial fonts, make it clear that the project has only been based on your initial release, and that it does not reflect the designs of (URW)++. As a suggestion, it would be simplest if you chose a new license that is already widely used and understood. If you want to release it with minimal restrictions, then the most straightforward license would be the MIT license [5]. If you would like all modified versions of the font to remain free, then using the GNU GPL with a font exception would be preferred [6]. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you, Rogério Theodoro de Brito Debian Project Maintainer, Member of the Fonts Packaging Team Instructor of Computer Science, Univ. Mackenzie, São Paulo, Brazil [1] http://www.debian.org [2] http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines [3] http://www.artifex.com/downloads/doc/Public.htm [4] http://git.debian.org/?p=users/rbrito-guest/urw-garamond.git [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expat_License [6] http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100413.224608.629041793913682650.wal...@geodynamics.org
